This is incredible!!!

TheBandit795

I'm lovin this post! Exactly what I came on board A.T.S. for.
Always interested in new and different things, and also not so new.
Don't stop.

Originally posted by Journey



sounds as if they are targeting very vulnerable people, at first glance.

Pretty much says it all for me.

That's the book www.google.com..."The science of getting rich" by Wallace Wattles.

He's one of a lot of authors writing in a late 19th century, early 20th century literary genre called "New thought".


Deny ignorance...

Originally posted by Juanita

My point is that an enlightened mind wouldn't have such need for such a product, and therefore wouldn't buy it. I LIKE the idea, and wish for people like you to keep posting new ideas in this area. But once again, and you even agreed w/ me on this, it DOES come from w/in. Don't EVER think that you don't posess the power (intelligence and practice) to do the 'footwork' that this program does for you.

You're saying exactly what I was saying earlier here...

Nice work Bandit.

To every1 else, well if u been conned more fool u.

Wise up. People its 2004 and if u dont use ure minds now, when will u.

What is the magnetron? What is its purpose? sounds like a nerd thing. Still, you need to post instructions, ect. thanks.


~Master Shake despises nerds, geeks, and Bill Gates.~

[edit on 9-11-2004 by RickJamesJones]

Bandit, neat thread. While personal testimony over the internet is hard to confirm, it typically makes -- in the least -- a neat story or something interesting to think about. I think, for the sake of argument, that we should accept your testimony as true. That is, you used a given device for a certain motive, and then later had your desires filled that were related to the motive. It is easy for the skeptic to deny this -- and rightly so; it is a bit irrational to take a witness' word of an event and celebrate it as truth. Generally, a formal investigation would like to be done.

However, since we have no means to do so, again, I suggest we should accept the proposition as true just as a means to interest. As most people know, coincidences are measures of correlations: "A happened after B, what are the odds?" The odds are, banks rarely make errors. Your ironic good fortuned most likely happened in the face of horrible odds. What many individuals on this board do not understand is that we make truth based conclusions on correlations everyday. A famous example is the conclusion, "The sun will rise tomorrow!"

After subsequent observations of the sun rising day by day, people tended to conclude that the sun will rise again the next day -- without a formal proof. This induction like step has something you [Bandit] are lacking, and it is something I would like to ask you to do. If it isn't too much trouble, I'd like to ask you to continue using the machine and record all measureable results (gain in material, etc.). If you start to log a considerable correlation between desire and gain while using the machine, it starts to become ever more reasonable that there is something more going on with respect to machine use and you.

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Hey Bandit�I just wanted to offer some sympathy. I had a similar problem with one of my posts. I posted a link to a free on-line book . The entire thing, absolutely free. I thought that was so cool that I also posted a link to the sales page, so that anyone who wanted to could buy it if they liked it. I didn�t think it would be a problem, since the whole thing was available for free, but I got ripped. So, I learned something and I won�t do that again.

But I do think that the policy of no advertising links is a bit tricky. Obviously the intent is to prevent spam or other posts with an ulterior motive. Which is good.

Unfortunately, very few worthwhile material things in life are free. There are tons of excellent books, cds, or other items discussed on the web. Most have a sales link. It makes it hard to discuss the ones we like and point people towards a link without appearing to endorse the product. In the end, it is always a person�s choice to buy something or not.

One of my current interests is �mind machines� and audio cds that help a person change their brainwaves and state of mind. Some other interests are magick, meditation, and spiritual self-development. I think the computer, with proper software, is a potentially a tremendous resource for combining these fields and adding a modern update to their pursuit.

So I read your post with interest.

It should be evident to all that a computer program can indeed be used as a tool, as you describe, much like one would use a wheelbarrow to help carry a heavy load. It can act as an aid to meditation, much like a mandala. Certain frequencies of sound can alter brainwaves. Images can arouse emotion and focus attention. Intensive saturation along all these sensory channels can have much the same effect as ritual. It is an effect on the human mind. The mind does all the work (if you believe it works).

I think the problem people have with your post is that it gives the impression that the computer program does the work�that you enter all the variables and then turn it on and walk away and it runs on its own and causes things to happen. People just don�t buy that.

The distinction is whether the human mind does the work with the program as an aid to focusing, or whether the program somehow works on its own. I�m not entirely clear on this. Radionics is something few of us are familiar with. Some background on the theory of how it is supposed to work, aiding the mind, or working on its own, would be most useful, and give us some idea of how your amazing experience fits in with that theory.

Anyway, I hope you don�t give up on posting this kind of material. For me this is what makes ATS interesting. It�s just a discussion. People don�t have to believe anything here if they don�t want to.
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Ok, i downloaded this cyber shaman garbage. and it is the most bizarre and poorly designed program ever. Its even less intuitive than the search system on these forums.
Ive read the documentation and i have no idea, anyone know how im supposed to use it. Because from what ive seen its just an annoying noise and hundreds of buttons that seem to generate random numbers in all the boxes. Now, im trying to keep an open mind here and i think all the open minded people are getting treated pretty badly in this thread.

ps. From what i currently understand about how these things work, i think its a bit rude charging people so much money for something that looks like it was put together in Visual Basic in about 10mins, and only gives results if the person takes matters into their own hands.

I totally believe Bandit's story, and it would take the hardest-hearted skeptic to dismiss what had happened to his bank account as "pure coincidence." He asked for something, and soon after he got it.

I used to use magic for things I wanted all the time. And I got them--cause and effect--ask for it one day, get it the next day. Money, jobs, promotions, material items, unmentionable trysts in broomclosets with my secret crush du jour--I got it all. Also pulled a few pranks on people.

On the negative side, I soon found out how angry the universe was with me for mucking around like that. And as time went on, what I received became more and more...sarcastic? Unpleasant? Be careful what you wish for? So I've stopped doing that stuff for the most part. But it was quite a ride.

I'm very wary about downloading any new stuff on my computer, as it seems to pick up viruses at the drop of a hat. But there are other ways to do cyber magick--just google "cyber magick" to get ideas. Or just break out the chalk & candles.

I understand the rush of having your spell work with tangible results, Bandit...kudos to you for being so honest & returning the money!

As for those who choose to put down the entire thread--my advice is simply to not try the links offered & move on. It's easy enough to do without belittling some else's intellect, no?

Originally posted by TheBandit795


That's the book www.google.com..."The science of getting rich" by Wallace Wattles.

He's one of a lot of authors writing in a late 19th century, early 20th century literary genre called "New thought".


Deny ignorance...

Perhaps, you should listen to your own advice, because I do not understand, please elaborate if I am wrong.... Are you suggesting that I deny ignorance in this situation of yours? You came here to thread wanting to share and seeking input....and you got it I guess...
anyhow, I have always found your posts interesting. And I respect you as a fellow member, and moderator, of this community. Please give me the same, as I give you.
Anyhow, I got some good laughs! Have a good one-

Well the T+R+E=M equation is wrong, it has to be! If young teens think about their favorite sex symbol (T) and think anbout sex (R) with the target and think about it all the time, use orgasms as energy(E), then why doesn't the magic (M) happen? Heck, Ive been wanting a GF who's into tech stuff for years, but I have had no magicikal apperance of smart tech girls happen near me lol.

Lots of people spend lots of energy and focus on something they want/need badly, but they never get it in complete form or at all.

Do you guys remember reading comic books, and in the back pages of those comic books were ads for such things as XRAY-SPECS. And those ads would show a kid like us looking at girls on the beach. Man what pre-pubecent boy wouldnt want a par of magical glasses like that for only $3.99 .........Trouble is they didnt work.

And that is exactly what this is about, Trouble is we are adults now and we should know better. But there is always room for another pyramid scheme,or Xray-Specs. and no shortage of adults or kids who will believe anything.

[edit on 10-11-2004 by parker]

Originally posted by Journey
Perhaps, you should listen to your own advice, because I do not understand, please elaborate if I am wrong.... Are you suggesting that I deny ignorance in this situation of yours? You came here to thread wanting to share and seeking input....and you got it I guess...

In this situation I was only talking about the book. If you had clicked on it, you would've known what it was about. And there are hundreds of very similar books. (although some haven't been on the market for decades).

anyhow, I have always found your posts interesting. And I respect you as a fellow member, and moderator, of this community. Please give me the same, as I give you.
Anyhow, I got some good laughs! Have a good one-

Of course you have my respect... You live in Alaska and you can withstand the heat of Aruba...

Originally posted by XL5
Well the T+R+E=M equation is wrong, it has to be! If young teens think about their favorite sex symbol (T) and think anbout sex (R) with the target and think about it all the time, use orgasms as energy(E), then why doesn't the magic (M) happen? Heck, Ive been wanting a GF who's into tech stuff for years, but I have had no magicikal apperance of smart tech girls happen near me lol.

Lots of people spend lots of energy and focus on something they want/need badly, but they never get it in complete form or at all.

They focus on the lack of it. I was a teenager too. And if you're constantly obsessed by something, you never get it. There have been millions, if not billions of people who have used this exact same formula over the millenia. Take any magick operation, and you can find the formula in it.

Originally posted by parker
And that is exactly what this is about, Trouble is we are adults now and we should know better. But there is always room for another pyramid scheme,or Xray-Specs. and no shortage of adults or kids who will believe anything.

[edit on 10-11-2004 by parker]

Uhhmm... Nope... Not when there are hundreds of people talking about having success with something. Either they're all lying or there is something to it. Fact is... If there are no testimonials for something, and usually testimonials from people I can directly contact because of they're e-mail address being available, I don't try it. That goes for everything that I've tried and have been interested in using.

Originally posted by radardog

After subsequent observations of the sun rising day by day, people tended to conclude that the sun will rise again the next day -- without a formal proof. This induction like step has something you [Bandit] are lacking, and it is something I would like to ask you to do. If it isn't too much trouble, I'd like to ask you to continue using the machine and record all measureable results (gain in material, etc.). If you start to log a considerable correlation between desire and gain while using the machine, it starts to become ever more reasonable that there is something more going on with respect to machine use and you.

In fact, my plan is to do that exactly. But not only with that. With any sorts of visualization and stuff like that. I've been succsefull using Huna, which is an ancient Hawaian way of praying, (although Hawaians don't call it Huna). Christian style prayer is also effective when used the right way. They all are. Most people recommend you to have a journal (or diary) of every manifestation you've made.

Well when you want something, don't you focus on either wanting it or not having it and wanting it? Are they suppose to think they already have it? (maybe thats the reason it doesn't work for most people).

Originally posted by XL5
Are they suppose to think they already have it? (maybe thats the reason it doesn't work for most people).

Exactly... You hit the hammer right on the nail.

There are a gazillion books that explain it further... I'll post some examples..

The power of your subconscious mind - Joseph Murphy

The Power of Awareness - Neville Goddard

The science of getting rich - Wallace Wattles

what occured bandit???

is this a hoax or does this "thingy" make your desires come true...

WTF is going on???

The "thingy" does not make my desires come true. It's just an extension of my own mind, just a helpful tool... Read the longest post I made in this thread and the links I gave in the post right above yours.