Nigeria school massacre: 41 children killed, some burned alive

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Should 41 being burned alive in Nigeria be of less value for news coverage and consideration? (To look at this another way)

Not at all Wrabbit. Of course its an atrocity. My complaint is the labeling "Islamist Atrocity". Thats all.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . I get it . . .

Evidently it is your bias/ conviction/ construction on reality/ fantasy . . .

that we should label it

1. An Amish Atrocity; or
2. A little ole ladies with red garters tea party Atrocity; or
3. A Southern Baptist Sonday school class Atrocity; or

4. A Zen Buddhist Atrocity wherein the horrors of "Death by Meditation;" and "Death by endless insanity inducing OMMMMM chanting" and "Death by trying to figure out the sound of ONE HAND CLAPPING" left dozens in a bloody pulpy mass; or

5. A Quaker Atrocity wherein everyone sat around for so many weeks waiting for Holy Spirit to move them that they dried up to the bones . . . came to be known as the moderately quick mummification Atrocity; or

6. A Native American Atrocity wherein a few too many braves a feather short of a headdress danced around the victims so many 100's of times that the poor victims turned to buttermilk and were licked up by the hyenas; or

7. An Eskimo Atrocity wherein the Eskimos got tired of sharing their wives or husbands and introduced their bothersome guests to some killer whales who were not at all gentle in their lovemaking . . . turns out some weren't quite as thrilled at making love to a 'really BIG deal' as they thought they were . . . according to their dying gasps; or

8. A group of Mormon elders Atrocity who killed off their victims by forcing them to dig every waking moment looking for more golden plates;

9. A group of islanders Atrocity who had so many new volcanoes to placate that they ran out of virgins . . . then all women . . . then all the cross dressers . . . etc . etc. and the remainder died of terminal horniness.

Soooooooooo, which of the above Atrocity labels do you think would be MORE ACCURATE than

"Islamist Atrocity" for a label?

Or is it now that by decree of the KING OF THE LONG KNIVES all Muslims are forever immune to any and all labels and any ignorant labelers are to be

BEHEADED instantly--or at least as soon as they get within 3 feet of any TRULY DEVOUT male Muslim?

/sarc . . . sort of

.

reply to post by intrptr

In fact we were the invaders, we killed the women and children. The song remains the same. It hasn't changed one bit.

Whether it be a thread about the Evil North Koreans, The Evil Muslims or Chinese or whatever, when I see this I will always try to point it out as much as I can. I know I'm not that good at it. Makes it harder for me.

In your view... Has the United States of America done anything of note or importance in a positive way since 1945? Anything whatsoever? If yes...then adjust that to the international stage. What, if anything at all, in your view....has the United States done right since 1945? Your posting is 100% consistent. We're wrong and whomever is touched by U.S. Policy is, by that factor alone it seems, right. Or...even a victim, depending on specifics.

I never see any suggestion that you recognize anything positive happening or even having happened since the US became a measurable world power?

First of all i condemn this type of action of brutal savagery.It is appalling.i think anyone of whatever faith they belong to can justify this type of action.how can these people say the religion they follow is not born out of something evil,

Originally posted by Misbah
Islamists don't kill children, It doesn't matter what religion they belong to, It's a great sin for a Muslim to child an innocent child. Please stop spreading false reports on Muslims, the incident may have occurred, but there is no reason at all to say that it was "Islamists" who did it, because Muslims don't do such stuff. It doesn't matter where a Muslim lives, they don't kill children and it cannot be justified.

Spreading propaganda on Islam is not going to help you.

Misbah, You are going to lose what little credibility you have on this site if you are going to continually deny that Islamic Radicalism is a MAJOR problem in the Middle East. There are certain Muslim Clerics and Scholars who DO preach those things and if the Muslims who don't believe or act like them don't speak up and condemn those Radical Islamists who preach that hate, then you are enabling that behavior.

Misbah, are there Radical Islamists who do things like this???? You need to call them out and say they aren't Muslims because they believe that they are the truest of true Muslims. You are allowing those Radicals to paint the mainstream of Islam with their own colors. They would kill you for saying they aren't true Muslims.

Stand up and take a stand against their actions for once..............

Originally posted by mekhanics
reply to post by Misbah

 

I think we shall blame Islam for school shootings in America, resulting death.

Don't think we all blame Islam for ALL the children killing. We just blame the ones done by Islamic Extremist's on Islamic Extremist. Just the same as the Christian Fanatics bombing buildings in the USA. We would blame Christian Fanatics.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Fact is fact. Its when we start to make a general assumption that all people of Islam are extremist is when we fail.

In the case of the OP's topic - it was done by extremist's following a perverse interpretation of Islam.

All religions have bad apples. Islam in this case, is the topic.

Originally posted by knightrider078
Islam Religion of Peace my A--

Would you believe . . . for those for whom it fits . . . a rabidly fundamentalist religion of bloody pieces?

or

a rabidly fundamentalist irrationally educated, if at all, bunch of outrageously over fantasized morphing a new variation on the old originating cult of blood lust into a

Religion of blood lust, little boy lust, little girl lust, hand whacking off lust, head whacking off lust, leg whacking off lust and just about any other bloody lust they can conceive of?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


So the rabbit loves to watch the FOX (and similar crap channels) before RT. Well be careful little rabbit or you find yourself brainwashed and swallowed.

Anyhow its nice to encounter an old oaf from the cold war era and with some good insight into the geopolitical powerplay between those slimy untrustworthy Russkies and our trustworthy patriotic boys in da white house

Still...somewhere in africa 41 children suffered horrible deaths and what do I read on this thread from some posters...Putins sexlife, the pros and cons of this or that news channel. Whats next thing that might come up her? This autumns fashion in Paris ? ROTFL

And the sociopathic meter keeps pushing the envelope (sighs)...

reply to post by johncarter


if we go off topic, we are sociopaths?
calm yourself. lol

Why children? It's f.....g gross I will never understand this kind of evil grotesque action taken on the lives of innocent children, no matter what religion they practiced, People who do this are not human!

Originally posted by 0bserver1
Why children? It's f.....g gross I will never understand this kind of evil grotesque action taken on the lives of innocent children, no matter what religion they practiced, People who do this are not human!

makes ya wanna be an atheist, doesn't it?
like holy mackerel, good grief almighty, no way does god want us to be uneducated slaves to a highly educated and ridiculously wealthy elite.
no way. for all its mistakes, the usa originally had a great idea about education and not stifling the free flow of information.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by Maslo

 

So religion is certainly relevant to this story.

How can murdering murderers even remotely be considered "religious'"? ( I would use the word spiritual instead)

edit on 7-7-2013 by intrptr because: correction

Because religion is not all just fun and games. Religious extremism is a real problem and the motivation behind many atrocities. Particularly in poor uneducated populations.

hey, you too can be fabulously wealthy and powerful, just agree to behave like a
wild animal in real life and do so for the benefit of other survival of the fittest mentalities with money to spare, and wallah! rolling in the dough. ever see this film?
it's a doozy

Originally posted by ChuckNasty

Originally posted by mekhanics
reply to post by Misbah

 

I think we shall blame Islam for school shootings in America, resulting death.

Don't think we all blame Islam for ALL the children killing. We just blame the ones done by Islamic Extremist's on Islamic Extremist. Just the same as the Christian Fanatics bombing buildings in the USA. We would blame Christian Fanatics.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Fact is fact. Its when we start to make a general assumption that all people of Islam are extremist is when we fail.

In the case of the OP's topic - it was done by extremist's following a perverse interpretation of Islam.

All religions have bad apples. Islam in this case, is the topic.

You're right and I am sorry. Thank you

reply to post by BO XIAN

Evidently it is your bias/ conviction/ construction on reality/ fantasy . . .

that we should label it

The charge is "just" murder, dude. What church they go to is irrelevant at this point. How much consideration enters into any court trial about which religion any murderer practices?

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Maybe you apply a dual standard. Here its irrelevant. In "Muslim Town" its the only thing.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

You mean is there nothing good about the Matrix? Being in the Matrix? There is no convincing those still plugged in that they are not really seeing clearly. Their whole world is an illusion, not just part of it but all of it. Every fabricated bit.

If you want me to convince you of anything you are going to have to unplug and come outside the mold prepared for you. Otherwise no change can occur.

Of course its metaphorical. And the truth.

Plato said it better, but his read is kind of dry in todays instant gratification blank world.

reply to post by Maslo

More like religion is used as the excuse to justify those things. When the Spaniards conquered South, Cebtral America they carried the cross ahaead of them.

But they were really there for the gold.

Right?

Don't sell me religion as blame or cure, the higher ups know it is merely a tool. A means to an end.

reply to post by elysiumfire

Stroke the flames long enough and it will turn into a blaze, stroke the blaze long enough and it will turn into a raging inferno. The cycle all cycles eventually just perpetrate themselves, some have just learned to use those cycles to there advantage no matter what side of the aisle they are. Its merely just cause and effect, a knee jerk reaction in a great many peoples no matter who or were they are from or what group they belong to.

In space there is a rock floating in the void, on this rock there are many hairless monkey creatures who just happen to sick in the head. End of story. Another day on planet earth, in all these type of things have been happening for a long time, some are merely sanctioned and so people pay no attention to them, other however are not so they become news. And yet others are just fodder to stroke the flames and done purposefully.

reply to post by Murgatroid


Mark my words kid, Christians will be next on the "terrorism" block.
It will most likely start here in the USA, but who knows?
We (Christians) will be the ones defending our beliefs on ATS.
It's kinda already starting with the westboro baptist church.

Oh, let me add, that the reason may be to destroy all religions, so they can start the "One World Religion". Seeing as this is a conspiracy website and all, I thought I should add a reason as to why.

reply to post by intrptr

If you want me to convince you of anything you are going to have to unplug and come outside the mold prepared for you. Otherwise no change can occur.

Of course its metaphorical. And the truth.

Ahhh... So we're dealing in two different realities is the problem. (takes discreet hop back) I see.... The matrix you say? (takes long step away) Okay... Well, the debate was interesting, but actually I'm a little disturbed by your last msg as we weren't really joking or in a sarcastic chat. You seem to be serious and I wouldn't even know where to go with this.

@Johncarter

Indeed.. 41 kids are dead, an Islamic extremist group (Jihadi group in my thinking) claimed credit by all reports and life in Africa goes on for another day. It's a wild place with norms outside ours, I'd say. Tho this was extreme by even that.

As far as sources go? It's not about Fox over RT. All MSM lies. ALL MSM plays to agendas and an audience. All that changes is the precise agenda and audience being played to. So, taking them all as sources first, I prioritize. Corporate/Ad driven media comes above State Owned and Controlled media. Every Time. That means that places like Fox, Al Jazeera, The Jerusalem Post or even the Sacramento Bee will be what I read before getting to the propaganda rags. Voice of America, Russia Today, Press TV and others. I do skim/read over them all, usually once or more a day ...but priorities by agenda is always considered.

Originally posted by undo
hey, you too can be fabulously wealthy and powerful, just agree to behave like a
wild animal in real life and do so for the benefit of other survival of the fittest mentalities with money to spare, and wallah! rolling in the dough. ever see this film?
it's a doozy

I was gonna post a thread on one possible idea for a new type of civilization called the Venus Project but there are couple thread on it already that seems to get little traction www.abovetopsecret.com... I know it's not perfect or maybe too difficult to achieve given most people's mindset. and unwillingness to change a system or way of life they know it's hard to maintain, what does this have to do with the O.P?? we have been at this same type of civilization since at-least 5 or 6kys B.C on all continents except for the most simplest form of societies all were predatory in nature,yes they may follow slightly different rules developed high minded codes of behavior through religious or secular law little difference between them which the rulers often contradict.hence a Muslim man can burn and kill 41 kids,a Buddhist can burn an Orphanage folks professing to be good Christians actively fund and support Jewish extremist with the hope of bringing Armageddon in which all die but themselves.
George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month. Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003
www.guardian.co.uk...

Atheist like Stalin, Hitler,Mao Zedong are not one wit better than their religious fundies counterparts. like I said I don't know if the Venus Project solution is workable but at-least lets try something entirely new.