We Are In The Last Hour-- Heed The Trumpets

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

You, sir, are the fastest reader I have ever witnessed.

My entire thread read in under 3 minutes.....simply amazing.

Let me be frank with you. Your thread title is all that I read, mostly because the rest of it looks mind numbingly archaic and uninteresting to me. However, in that thread title, you said exactly what I was hoping for, some smooth jazz playing within the hour.

Edmound Spenser's famous quote comes to mind at this juncture.

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
I am certain at this point that the Roman Catholic institution will play a significant role in these last days. It is still my personal speculation however, that this role will be that of the False Prophet of the Biblical Book of Revelation, legitimizing the worship of a female deity of through the guise of Catholic catechism. My journey to this conclusion is as follows:

I did read the entire first post and didn't even skim. It was the very first part of that post, however, that totally baffles me. I don't understand the arrogance of you and many others who worship your god when it comes to who you are calling "Ishtar".

Why do you feel there is even a need to "trick" people into turning their backs on your god and following her? Many of us willingly follow her without any need of trickery. It is arrogance that makes you convinced that people must be tricked in order to see your god for what it is and make an informed decision. No trickery is needed.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


"I hate the day, because it lendeth light
To see all things"

Spencer, Daphnaida, v. 407.

reply to post by Cuervo


That there are those whom make an informed and willful decision, does not rule out that there are those whom are unaware.

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
legitimizing the worship of a female deity of through the guise of Catholic catechism.

Can't happen. The Catholic church itself states very clearly that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and that worship belongs to God alone. This is in the catechism and is a doctrine of faith (meaning, it can't change).

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by Cuervo

 

That there are those whom make an informed and willful decision, does not rule out that there are those whom are unaware.

You are a Christian who wishes for there to be no "deception". Be careful what you wish for.

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by Cuervo

 

That there are those whom make an informed and willful decision, does not rule out that there are those whom are unaware.

You are a Christian who wishes for there to be no "deception". Be careful what you wish for.

I am very well aware of what will be transpiring in the very near future. The uncovering of a truth with the motive of deception is a very, very old ruse.

reply to post by FlyersFan



What many on this thread are unaware, is the fact that I grew up Catholic. Went to Catholic school, had my first confession, first communion, the whole she-bang. Half of my family are devoutly Catholic, observing 'high holy days', Lenten fasts, regular confession, all the ritual and pomp and circumstance.

I make this thread not as a vitriolic mud-slinging attempt at Catholics, nor do I make it in grand assumption due to an ignorance of catechism. I am fully aware of Catholic doctrine, however I see it for what it truly is and have clearly laid out my argument against it in this thread.

Anyone who does the will of my Father in heaven is my Brother or Sister. It is the Roman Catholic institution that deceives them, which is the subject of this thread.


Changes in Catechism -- you may want to get comfortable, it's quite the long list.

Originally posted by windword

It's this fundamental hate and demonization of the female that gets my cockles in a bunch. It's crazy to say that the Catholic church worships the female when they refuse female clergy and their leader, the Pope is male. Their patriarchal domination is legendary.

I do not demonize women anywhere in this thread. I am a woman.

The truth of the matter of the Pope and the purpose of incorporating devotion and veneration to Mary, the mother of Jesus, is clearly articulated in this thread.

Insulting jabs in regard to the thread title really serve no purpose other than evidence of presumption and bias. Quite honestly, I sat here for a good ten minutes trying to think of something that would reflect the subject matter without sounding like a sweaty pulpit rant, yet that was short and to-the-point. I suppose those who's panties (or cockles) are grievously wadded by it, would have to take that up with whatever inspired it.

Jesus said: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

It would appear that you are calling Him a liar.

Your opinion piece has several issues, which I will be happy to address.

Nowhere does the Bible refer to an individual entitled the antichrist. It refers to a kingdom or a mindset that has the spirit of antichrist.

Up until about 120 years ago, most people thought that "the great beast" was the Roman Emperor Nero.

Similarly, the 'tribulation' is actually referred to as "the time of Jacob's trouble" and most believed that this occurred with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

Please read Matthew 24.

In summary, the disciples are admiring the temple, Jesus says it will soon be destroyed and not one stone will be left standing on another. A little later, overlooking Jerusalem, the disciples ask, "when will this happen?", "what will be the signs" and "what about the end of the world" (note these are three different questions, from people who did not yet know Jesus would die and so were asking out of Jewish culture). Jesus replied that there would be heaps of fake messiahs (implying a long time). The Roman peace (Pax Romanus) would be broken and they would hear about wars again. There'd be all sorts of natural calamities and the followers of Jesus would be oppressed but ultimately it would all end and goodness would prevail. If you see Jerusalem surrounded by soldiers then run like hell to the mountains. To be caught in the destruction of the city would be the worst time of suffering in history and would never be as bad again. Don't listen to the false prophets, it will be obvious to everyone when God comes. After the destruction, the very political and social systems of Israel's twelve tribes will fail and fall. The sign of the Son of Man (the cross was seen in the sky by the Roman Emperor Constantine and he purportedly became a Christian) will be seen in the sky and His followers will spread and prosper throughout the earth. Some of the people alive now will see this happen. No-one knows when the end of the world will come. Only the Father. The end of the world will be as unexpected as Noah's flood was to most people of the world at that time. Some will be taken (by implication, for judgement), some will remain on earth. Just like a thief in the night, it will happen unexpectedly.

This was the accepted view of most Christians until John Darby proposed the alternate "dispensational" view in the 1800's. A view which was promoted through the Schofield Reference Bible. At the time of the world wars and great depression, many were led to believe that they were in the end times. All the rest were fanciful books and movie doom porn that it seems, you have assumed, is the Christian orthodoxy.

Your opinion piece to me reads like some sort of pagan work, talking about goddesses & such. True Christianity has Jesus Christ at its focus and is actively trying to better the world, not passively waiting for spaceship rapture to sweep away the nastiness.

Notice in the "Parable of the Tares" which was specifically about Gods Kingdom and judgement, that it was the Tares (weeds) that were taken away to be burned. So who do YOU think will be 'raptured'?

Also, if you are hearing trumpets, have you considered that you might have Tinnitus? Modern medicine can help.

Originally posted by chr0naut
Jesus said: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

It would appear that you are calling Him a liar.

Also, if you are hearing trumpets, have you considered that you might have Tinnitus?

Modern medicine can help.

You of all people should be aware that I was speaking figuratively, based on scripture:

"Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour." 1 John 2:18

"Blow a trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm on My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble, For the day of the LORD is coming; Surely it is near, "Joel 2:1

"And I set watchmen over you, saying, 'Listen to the sound of the trumpet!' But they said, 'We will not listen.' Jeremiah 6:7

'He heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning; his blood will be on himself. But had he taken warning, he would have delivered his life." Ezekiel 33:5

"but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets. "Rev 10:7

Accuse me of blasphemy against our Lord and jump on the bandwagon of e'rebody hatin' on the trumpets?

I'm disappointed Cronaut, I truly expected more integrity.

Originally posted by chr0naut
Jesus said: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

It would appear that you are calling Him a liar.

Also, if you are hearing trumpets, have you considered that you might have Tinnitus?

Modern medicine can help.

Not at all. Jesus said no man would know they day nor hour. But He certainly gave clues to the general period of time or season if you will. The OP didn't claim an exact day.

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

"I hate the day, because it lendeth light
To see all things"

Spencer, Daphnaida, v. 407.

No, I was thinking of this one:

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information which is proof against all argument and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation."

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Honestly? I'm smiling like a bemused idiot after suffering through your, ehrm, conglomeration of words, and the sole thought running through my mind is:

"Two stars? There are actually two other people on this planet that gleaned a valid point from this person's pontificating arrangement of vain and inconsequential argument?"

I'm choosing to believe that these two individuals have
1. Not read the thread
2. Have read the thread but are incapable of seeing the obvious
3. Are simply going through the thread giving stars to anyone who disagrees with me to make themselves feel better

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

"I hate the day, because it lendeth light
To see all things"

Spencer, Daphnaida, v. 407.

No, I was thinking of this one:

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information which is proof against all argument and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation."

Investigation has been done.

Repeatedly.

These writings are over 1,500 years old. As Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the sun." Why should any type of critical analysis of what is literally the most popular book in the history of the world be taken seriously anymore?

Is there something new to look at? Is something new being said?

No on both counts.

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suit urself. but let me point out. that a consensus makes a thing no more true than it is. you could write 10 pages and have a consensus of 10,000 supporting your ideals. but if they arent really true. then a man who speaks one sentence that is completely true, it will topple you. The truth does not negotiate its position nor require a consensus to be what it is. so who cares about stars? certainly not me.. i only care about what is truth.

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Once again you use a whole 'lotta words to evidence that you failed to get my point.

reply to post by WashMoreFeet

I am certain at this point that the Roman Catholic institution will play a significant role in these last days.

The world will end by natural causes. One very possible (and very soon) catastrophe will be the melting of the polar ice caps causing the release of enough methane to pollute the air and kill every living thing on the planet. No Roman Catholic involvement. No god to intervene. But I do agree that the end could be be very near.

Originally posted by WashMoreFeet
reply to post by filledcup

 

Once again you use a whole 'lotta words to evidence that you failed to get my point.

i merely point out that your analysis of the antichrist figure in your first page may be incomplete. and as such uve come across a contradiction which you pretend not to see. try to veil your intention as much as you like, but if anyone knocks, they will know and recognize if they hear the sound of a hollow vessel. so preach your word, and claim it to be complete when you know in your deepest heart there is a problem within it which you havent solved. you are responsible for yourself and all you say.

reply to post by WashMoreFeet

“To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.”

If you become your enemy, you are friends with your enemy.

There was someone who said "Love your enemy", who was that again?
(Answer: Jesus)


For 1000s of years people have been saying we are "in the end times", even in the bible people thought it was the "end times" (hence asceticism in Christianity - celibacy until the return of "The Lord")