Bigfoot yay or nay ?

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


Seeing and knowing exactly where Earth is coming from concerning this topic.
That isn't saying you aren't making excellent points. You are. But Bigfoot has
the distinct possibility of being something completely paranormal.

And that, would frankly cast all your reasoning to the four winds.

But of course your points would remain solid in such light.
So you both must simply see it both ways.
Or you both go down that slippery slope into total confusion
and from civil debate into hateful argument you end up.
And that will solve nothing.

Bigfoot yay or nay?

Nay I say

Gonna call it a day

and hit the hay

unless someone else has something to say.

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by Quauhtli
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Your examples are not of hunters, but of poachers and murderers. The same type of guys that hunters would rather not be in the forest looking for Bigfoot, as they have no respect for the land or those who inhabit it.

It is a hard case trying find leaks in a bunch of opinions or otherwise unproven theories, my hat is off to you my friend.

en.wikipedia.org...

Please familiarize yourself with the definition of poaching that the vast majority of the world has given to it. When you deny very simple and provable concepts, and instead cling to naive beliefs, you take even more credibility away from yourself.

You went from being merely someone that believes he saw bigfoot, to a guy that doesn't believe poachers are hunters because all hunters are noble, and you also saw bigfoot.

So why don't scientists go out to prove the existance of bigfoot? Why should hunters want to kill bigfoot, drag them home, call the news channel who will laugh at you? If you want evidence then go find it.

Most of the time you will never see bigfoot. If there were many then we would have had proof by now.

reply to post by neo96


If it is bedtime where you bey ?
Then I say
Yay, hit the hey !
Ore as the NAI's say
"uta hey '
And you can catch up tomorrow
or another day!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

You said boogeyman. And I answered to your off-topic post. What is the correllation between boogeyman and bigfoot, besides being rare??

These are both social constructs that people believe in that have no empirical evidencury support.

People are born once and die once. People usually get married once or twice. People play the lottery and occasionally win a million dollars. People go to the casino and occasionally win a million dollars. People occasionally see a possible ufo.

Some things are very rare. And when we combine the tendency of science to WANT to ignore the strange, it makes it even more strange. I am not suprised we have no conclusive proof.

Science doesn't have 'wants'. Science is a tool. It would be like saying that a hammer wants to hit the nail on the head. You are of the very mistaken idea that people wouldn't be interested in the scientific discovery of a giant living hominid living in North America (which would be the ONLY hominid native to this continent) when in reality there have been dozens of researchers that have devoted their entire lives to finding bigfoot. These people use scientific inquiry to try to further their goals, and to date, none of them have been fruitful.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Please see my previous post.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Seeing and knowing exactly where Earth is coming from concerning this topic.
That isn't saying you aren't making excellent points. You are. But Bigfoot has
the distinct possibility of being something completely paranormal.

And that, would frankly cast all your reasoning to the four winds.

But of course your points would remain solid in such light.
So you both must simply see it both ways.
Or you both go down that slippery slope into total confusion
and from civil debate into hateful argument you end up.
And that will solve nothing.

That's the shame with superstitious beliefs, even when reason wins out, someone can merely say "Well.. maybe he's supernatural!!"

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Science doesn't have 'wants'. Science is a tool. It would be like saying that a hammer wants to hit the nail on the head. You are of the very mistaken idea that people wouldn't be interested in the scientific discovery of a giant living hominid living in North America (which would be the ONLY hominid native to this continent) when in reality there have been dozens of researchers that have devoted their entire lives to finding bigfoot. These people use scientific inquiry to try to further their goals, and to date, none of them have been fruitful.

I can't believe you missed my point. When you combine something that a)is very rare and b)want to cover up findings, then naturally it only prolongs the myth. To be honest I don't really care if bigfoot is ever proven fact.

I do however want aliens to be proven fact because I have a strong suspicion they are interferring with humans. This what years of research(books and internet) have led me to believe. Proving bigfoot is real is almost inconsequential.

Trust me if science wanted something proven or was even neutral, then they would have gotten results by now.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

That's the shame with superstitious beliefs, even when reason wins out, someone can merely say "Well.. maybe he's supernatural!

Very true. But there is no one who can deny the supernatural exists. It is a bonified
part of the humans existence my good man. And there are countless examples of this
that are spread thru out these reports. Indeed, that's my point, neither side will ever be
conclusive this being the case. But one day all will be revealed, as an offered hope.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

That's the shame with superstitious beliefs, even when reason wins out, someone can merely say "Well.. maybe he's supernatural!

Very true. But there is no one who can deny the supernatural exists. It is a bonified
part of the humans existence my good man. And there are countless examples of this
that are spread thru out these reports. Indeed, that's my point, neither side will ever be
conclusive this being the case. But one day all will be revealed, as an offered hope.

edit on 30-6-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Superstition always falls to Scientific Inquiry. Scientific Laws never fall to Superstition.

Ever.

Something to think about when claiming superstitious reasons for unknown phenomenon.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Trust me if science wanted something proven or was even neutral, then they would have gotten results by now.

What makes you think the research hasnt already provided results?

Your personal bias.

You arent accepting the results because they dont fit your theory.

That's bad science.

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Trust me if science wanted something proven or was even neutral, then they would have gotten results by now.

What makes you think the research hasnt already provided results?

Your personal bias.

You arent accepting the results because they dont fit your theory.

That's bad science.

The results most people are looking for are probably classified top secret and eyes only. I am not interested in pyschiatric hogwash if that is what you are infering. I don't have the appropriate clearance and I bet neither do you.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Trust me if science wanted something proven or was even neutral, then they would have gotten results by now.

What makes you think the research hasnt already provided results?

Your personal bias.

You arent accepting the results because they dont fit your theory.

That's bad science.

The results most people are looking for are probably classified top secret and eyes only. I am not interested in pyschiatric hogwash if that is what you are infering. I don't have the appropriate clearance and I bet neither do you.

So, if Science doesn't give you the answers you are looking for, the government most be keeping it locked up? So, for some reason, all governments in the world.. governments that never agree on anything else, these governments all agree to keep all instances and evidence of Bigfoot a secret?

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


Because secret societies run the banks and the banks and big business with proprietary secrets run the governments. They keep ufos and aliens a secret, they keep real archeology a secret, they keep banking a secret, so why not bigfoot?

Bigfoot does not live everywhere. Just in very dense and isolated forests.

Chupacabra the goat killer, the lochness monster, giant anacondas, human cannibals, etc also exist in other areas.

reply to post by randyvs


I say Yes.

Because of the compelling evidence with this.



Give me a reasonable answer for "all" of these and then I might say no..........

Seeing that we didn't have proof that mountain gorillas existed until 1905, because no one took the native population's stories at face value, and seeing that we have not given credence to nearly every native tribe or group who all have a strong oral tradition of wild men that inhabit the forests of North America, I think it is very possible, if not plausible that there is a population of something in our woods.

If they are flesh and bone, trans- dimensional, or something else all together -- I do not know. I would like to believe that they are hominid creatures, but the reports connecting Bigfoot and UFO sightings perplex me. I don't think aliens would come here to play hide-and-go-seek in our forests, but I don't know what to make of the reports...

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Because secret societies run the banks and the banks and big business with proprietary secrets run the governments. They keep ufos and aliens a secret, they keep real archeology a secret, they keep banking a secret, so why not bigfoot?

Bigfoot does not live everywhere. Just in very dense and isolated forests.

Chupacabra the goat killer, the lochness monster, giant anacondas, human cannibals, etc also exist in other areas.

Now, for your theory to be correct..

1. Bigfoot must exist.
2. Secret Societies must control all of the banks.
3. Banks and Big Business must control every single government, because if they didn't control every government, the science could simply be published in the countries not controlled by these entities.
4. All Big Business and Banks must always agree to keep information on Bigfoot secret.
5. Aliens are visiting our planet.
6. Big Business and Banks are keeping Aliens secret.
7. The Known Archaeological Record is false.
8. Big Business and Banks are keeping True Archaeological records secret.

While, my theory is must more simple.

1. Bigfoot doesn't exist.

Occum's razor sides with me, friend.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

these governments all agree to keep all instances and evidence of Bigfoot a secret?

What evidence? Grainy footage? Blurry pictures? A Bona Fide corpse?

Perhaps we are talking about eye-witness accounts. There have been documented BF sightings since the 1700's, and in the vast majority of them, the eye-witness was gripped with fear, and ran. Even after they were shot at, with the eyewitness having a loaded gun, the prime consequent of a BF sighting has been fear.

Why are people afraid of BF?

Because they fear the unknown, and survival instincts kick in.

Once, I was camping, and heard a strange noise just outside the range of the campfire. A rustling in the brush, with strange chirping noises. Did I think it was a BF? Nope.

I got a flashlight, and shined it in the direction of the noise. A set of shining eyes stared back at me. Did I panic? Nope. My fellow campers were a bit wierded out though.

I grabbed a few potato chips and tossed them in the direction of the shining eyes. Surely enough, a hungry raccoon got brave enough to wade from it's cover in the thick brush, and came out to eat the chips. A round of "AWWWWs" went up around the campsite. (Yes, raccoons are cute.)

Needless to say, 8 of it's friends joined the feast, a comfortable 20 foot distance from our campfire, and they pestered us until the wee hours of the morning. There was no reason to suppose a BF, just because we were deep in the woods, and no reason to let our imagination get the best of us.

The governments of the world can't cover up what doesn't exist. They also can't control people's irrational fear of the unknown. Often the unknown is harmless, but evolution has taught us to fear it.

Originally posted by rimjaja
Seeing that we didn't have proof that mountain gorillas existed until 1905, because no one took the native population's stories at face value, and seeing that we have not given credence to nearly every native tribe or group who all have a strong oral tradition of wild men that inhabit the forests of North America, I think it is very possible, if not plausible that there is a population of something in our woods.

If they are flesh and bone, trans- dimensional, or something else all together -- I do not know. I would like to believe that they are hominid creatures, but the reports connecting Bigfoot and UFO sightings perplex me. I don't think aliens would come here to play hide-and-go-seek in our forests, but I don't know what to make of the reports...

This isn't true. Dozens and dozens of professional teams of researchers have studied Bigfoot, and uncountable teams of amateur researchers have wandered around the supposed habitats looking for bigfoot for decades. This isn't merely a case of people brushing off stories told by others around a campfire. Thousands of books have been published. Doctoral papers have been defended on this subject.

It has been exhausted and people still continue to research, hoping to find evidence that simply isn't forthcoming.

reply to post by Druid42


No idea what evidence the governments are supposedly covering up.. it's not my theory, mate. SOme people just want to believe SO BADLY...