Secrets in the Bible explain why we are not content with our “elected” governments

Originally posted by windword

 

We should never let ourselves be identified as sheep.

Billions of people do so by going to church.

Originally posted by arpgme

 

The bible has verses contradicting what you said, like here for example:

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves." - Romans 13:1-2

The Bible tells people to obey the government and to be content with them as they were put there by God and anyone who rebels is basically another Lucifer

You quote and your comment prove exactly the same point as I have made:

Governments are made by what is referred to as God. We do not "elect" a government. It is imposed on us by that which controls the government(s).

I think the reason we aren't satisfied is because A) We don't know the perspective or view of congress members and B) No matter what, we always think we can do a better job on a subject of which we've no experience.


I watch it all day at work. People get mad for no reason, and act irrationally.


People are stupid, is why we're incontent. Not biblical prophecy.

Originally posted by Miraj

 

People are stupid, is why we're incontent. Not biblical prophecy.

The Bible refers to people as sheep. One hardly needs to say more. But what I described in my OP was not a prophesy.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman


People are just as foolish as sheep. A look at history proves that convincingly.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

Governments are made by what is referred to as God. We do not "elect" a government. It is imposed on us by that which controls the government(s).

We "elect" the governments we deserve based on our poor choices.

The Bible has already foretold our future as humans, so what exactly do you want to know?

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

If they were not caused by God, then what caused them? I am not focusing on 'Natural phenomena'. I am focusing on Governments and Religions presenting a false pretense of being benevolent towards people, when in reality serving another master. Humans typically consider themselves to be in control of these institutions when in reality they are not.

Our world is being given over to evil for making poor choices.

The Bible refers to the god of this world as Satan. Satan is allowed to stir up mischief here on earth until God removes him out of the way. God's day is coming when he will remove Satan and all his little minions that make up the principalities of darkness that are in the world today and influencing it. God has allowed all of this to happen to prove, in the end, that good will conquer evil. That God will conquer all. That God is the one we should have been following instead of evil in the first place.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by ThinkingHuman

 

People are just as foolish as sheep. A look at history proves that convincingly.

I think these symbols, that we are meant to identify with, represent our spiritual growth. We are meant to embrace our evolutionary path and arise from our animal nature (Sheep), through the rebirth of baptism and the dualism represented in the symbol of Pisces (Twin Fish), and take our place in a more "angelic realm" as we enter the new age of Aquarius, now the "Water Bearer".

Luke 22:10
And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by ThinkingHuman

 

Governments are made by what is referred to as God. We do not "elect" a government. It is imposed on us by that which controls the government(s).

We "elect" the governments we deserve based on our poor choices.

The Bible has already foretold our future as humans, so what exactly do you want to know?

that's BS...morsi was elected into office in Egypt on promises to help the people....and as soon as he got into office, he turned 180 degrees and threw out the parliament, and became a dictator. none of the people in Egypt "deserved" that.

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that's BS...morsi was elected into office in Egypt on promises to help the people....and as soon as he got into office, he turned 180 degrees and threw out the parliament, and became a dictator. none of the people in Egypt "deserved" that.

That is what the people deserve. They should have known by the past history of the Muslim Brotherhood the mistake that they were making, but they chose to accept the Muslim Brotherhood's lies and it came back to bite them. They should have known better.

ETA: Just like America. Anyone following God would have been able to see through Obama's lies too, but the majority don't, so they didn't recognize it.

Originally posted by Deetermined

 

Satan is allowed to stir up mischief here on earth

God created man, who does bad things (and many other kinds of flaws). God did a poor job and needs to wipe out his amost his entire creation several times and start over again.
God appears to be lazy and does not kill Adam or Eve, Cain, Noah, but instead continues with his bad product and blames his products! (in another God is described as the potter, humans as clay) God blames the clay!

God supposedly gives humans “Free will” to do anything, including bad things. But then he is not happy when we do those bad things. He then kills, or punishes us, or gets angry at his creation.

God also creates Satan. Now God has competition who is trying to defeat him. Why can God not get rid of him?

God “chose” the Jewish people. Why did he need to choose?

Does any of this sound like an Almighty God? Believers often claim that these “mistakes” are to show something about human nature. If that were the case, there would be no need to convince people to believe in the fictional character, God.

God does not exist. This concept is the result of a few fiction writers.

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

God does not exist. This concept is the result of a few fiction writers.

That's exactly why we're all here on earth in the first place. To make that determination for ourselves by using our free will to choose whether it's fiction or not. Welcome to God's plan.

Originally posted by Deetermined

 

That's exactly why we're all here on earth in the first place. To make that determination for ourselves by using our free will to choose whether it's fiction or not. Welcome to God's plan.

Yes, this is the concept with which I and most of us were raised. But the awareness is moving towards:

Aliens created us and put us on earth. We need to use our free will to determine whether we can break free of their chains (governments) or not. Welcome to the Aliens' plan.

We should carefully pay attention to the words in the Bible to help us make this determination.

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The words in the Bible don't mention aliens. It mentions fallen angels and demons who are capable of posing as aliens, however, but they did not create man. God did. He will rescue us humans from Satan and his minions who pose as aliens.

Originally posted by Deetermined

 

The words in the Bible don't mention aliens.

That is true. It mentions a "sacred secret" numerous times. Do you know what it is?

Originally posted by jiggerj

 

Whether we want to attribute something to a god or an alien,

There is a qualitative difference between attributing something to God vs to aliens. With God you must rely on faith, without any evidence. You mostly present testimony from scriptures thousands of years old, authored by people you know very little about.

With aliens you analyze solid evidence (such as rocks) that allow drawing of specific conclusions. Then we seek to develop a theory to explain the evidence in context, just as they do in all sciences. If the theory is flawed, it will be sooner or later, shown as such.

Sometimes people present the argument that aliens is a "wildcard explanation", one that is used by proponents for any phenomenon that cannot be explained otherwise. But this is even more true of those who use "God". It is also true for those who simply claim that everything can be explained with "human ingenuity".

reply to post by ThinkingHuman

That is true. It mentions a "sacred secret" numerous times. Do you know what it is?

It is the wisdom and knowledge given to people by God to carry out his plan. God is the only one who is sacred and gives out sacred secrets. The rest are fallen angels and demons releasing their own false secrets to confuse people as to who God really is so people will carry out their plan instead.

Originally posted by ThinkingHuman

Originally posted by Deetermined

 

The words in the Bible don't mention aliens.

That is true. It mentions a "sacred secret" numerous times. Do you know what it is?

I'll stick with Jay Alan Hynak and Jacques Valle's final determination if you don't mind. That the alien phenomena appears "demonic" and the beings to be "inter dimensional, not extra terrestrial".

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

 

I'll stick with Jay Alan Hynak and Jacques Valle's final determination if you don't mind. That the alien phenomena appears "demonic" and the beings to be "inter dimensional, not extra terrestrial".

I don't mind - but why won't you answer my question about the sacred secret? It is a simple yes or no.

(Btw, I never said "extra-terrestial")

Originally posted by Deetermined

 

It is the wisdom and knowledge given to people by God to carry out his plan. God is the only one who is sacred and gives out sacred secrets. The rest are fallen angels and demons releasing their own false secrets to confuse people as to who God really is so people will carry out their plan instead.

... by God to carry out his plan
.... God is the only one....
... who God really is....

Your statements remind me why claiming to know "God's plan", etc, is insulting human intelligence.

If you want to quote the Bible, or other sources, or lay out a rational thought, that's great. But you are in the wrong thread to evangelize. This is Religious Conspiracy.