I Am Simon Alexandra, The Water Bearer

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup

 

TO DETECT the Spirit, which is to become AWARE, one must 'align themselves more' with the things that are of the spirit.

So, which spirit taught you about this "spirit of awareness", because I don't believe you came up with it on your own. It's obvious that you speak to a bunch of different spirits that have confirmed this to you.

So, who are they? Where do they come from?

edit on 23-6-2013 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

you can believe what you want. what you fail to realize is that you are speaking to someone who IS speaking directly from the spirit. The Holy Spirit is that within all of us which gives us life. and in each of us the Holy Spirit is OUR own spirit! the spark of Divinity given by God to all life and which man is intellectually able to nurture and grow towards awareness of. each piece of that spirit given to us is our very own soul and the truth it puts forth is undeniable even without present evidence. the spirit speaks of things the man/ego does not know but will be found and proven later to be truth.

there is no bunch of different spirits.. there is only me and my spiritual essence which speaks to you!

reply to post by Deetermined


He claims to be able to change the weather and control the elements, I fail to see how that is any different from the bible claiming Jesus could walk on water or turn water into wine. If the OP is teaching magic by claiming to be able to do it, then so is the bible.

I'm not going to reread the whole thread when you could just tell me how the two are different. You're just avoiding the question and you know it.

Originally posted by filledcup

there is no bunch of different spirits.. there is only me and my spiritual essence which speaks to you!

That's a lie.

If your spiritual experiences were as profound as you said they were, you didn't make them happen by yourself.

If everyone was born with the Holy Spirit, we wouldn't see the world in the state it's in today.

Nope. There are spirit liars out there.

Who are yours?

Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by filledcup

there is no bunch of different spirits.. there is only me and my spiritual essence which speaks to you!

That's a lie.

If your spiritual experiences were as profound as you said they were, you didn't make them happen by yourself.

If everyone was born with the Holy Spirit, we wouldn't see the world in the state it's in today.

Nope. There are spirit liars out there.

Who are yours?

edit on 23-6-2013 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)

poor you. poverty is indeed a state of mind. God's spirit knows truth in every individual. there is no absolute need for the spirit to seek consol before it speaks. but it is the man that must seek council with the spirit before he utters a word of divinity. among other things, you have now called me a liar.

but furthermore.. u relent at my feet now to implore me about the state of the world, which you now in earnest admit is in an unapproved state. what are you doing to change things. isnt the relevance within the mind of man and his degraded stature in spiritual understanding which causes him to lash out at his brother for opposing beliefs in a God that spans all of humanity? how do you help to make the world a better place by continually forging out enemies? isnt enmity and violence and attribute of the Devil? Didnt even Jesus teach us that we should not Hate the Devil even? what example are you setting in your life? have you lived a life worthy of being judged?

the answer to those questions are to your betterment. the world will not be changed by one man, but by the minds of all men being shown truth. a cultural change. a societal change. but it certainly.. and i repeat.. CERTAINLY will not be changed by using the thinking ways of old!

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


First of all, Jesus told his disciples that they could only do what was asked by using Jesus' name. They do it through Jesus, not of their own ability.

The OP isn't using powers given to him by Jesus, because he has already spoken blasphemy against him.

John 14:12-14

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

I mean the roads go without saying don't they!

What have the Romans ever done for us

reply to post by Deetermined


How exactly has your version of the holy spirit helped the world? Christianity has been around for 2,000 years and has had a HUGE part in setting our current society up, so how has it helped even a little?

Rome was the biggest liar and cheat in the world and they are the ones who legalized the current form of Christianity, so why do you think that they weren't "lying spirits"?

reply to post by filledcup


Come on! You've already told everyone that they need to practice mysticism in order to understand your truth. Do you really think that all of us are so stupid to believe that it doesn't have anything to do with contacting other spirits?!

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


The Roman church has made it's own mistakes that they will pay for, but it doesn't have anything to do with me as a follower of Jesus.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup

 

Come on! You've already told everyone that they need to practice mysticism in order to understand your truth. Do you really think that all of us are so stupid to believe that it doesn't have anything to do with contacting other spirits?!

actually.. YES! there is no requirement for contact from multiple spirits, tho they are available to you since you are then able to visit their realm and sit at their table and hold conversation yes.

However.. the socalled mysticism you speak of is a method of prayer which requires no more interaction between entities than the person and God. not even a church or synagogue is necessary to reach God. for our Bodies are the Temple of Worship in which our Spirit Dwells.

No! what mysticism i speak of.. requires no conversation with external spirits to understand. and it is every man that experiences samadhi or the enlightenment of the light holds the VERY SAME knowledge and in NO WAY contradicts eachother even without ever having met.. EVER!

can you explain how each that attains the light comes to the same conclusion without ever needing to interact with eachother beforehand? the answer is simple. the spirit exposes truth to an intellect that is able to comprehend it. Dogma goes out the window.. and truth shows clear as the light of day in all that they come across. while others struggle for comprehension. since there is only one truth, the revelation can only reveal one thing.. the Truth! which is why it is the same among all!

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

You will continue to not understand as long as you think in absolutes.

I just can't resist.

Well obviously, it isn't to be taken literally ...


The OP has hardly written anything, hasn't answered questions, and his apologists fill in the blank spaces with their own ideas, then claim that they are the OPs teachings. Not rational.

reply to post by Deetermined


Jesus never performed any miracles, sorry to burst your bubble, those are pagan themes put into the story by Rome before they legalized it. They had the books and they had the authority to put the bible together so they obviously had the means to change a few things in the story.

Guess when the earliest surviving copy of a gospel dates to? The 4th century, right around the time the bible was put together. Not a coincidence.

If Jesus never performed miracles then he must have been talking about good works, as in loving your neighbor as yourself.

He wasn't talking about miracles in that passage but good works, hence him saying "works" and not "miracles". And if he was talking about miracles, we have yet to see anything greater performed so he was wrong about them doing greater things than he.

Originally posted by filledcup

No! what mysticism i speak of.. requires no conversation with external spirits to understand. and it is every man that experiences samadhi or the enlightenment of the light holds the VERY SAME knowledge and in NO WAY contradicts eachother even without ever having met.. EVER!

Yeah, right...

Why do people have demonic obstacles when they cultivate? Why do karmic obstacles arise? It is just because people’s natures lack samadhi. If the nature is in samadhi, all demons can be subdued.

There are many kinds of demons. This sutra explains fifty kinds of “skandha demons.” Actually there are many, many demons: heavenly demons, earth demons, human demons, ghost demons, and weird demons. Heavenly demons are the demon-kings in the heavens who come to disturb your dhyana concentration. Earth demons that dwell on the earth, human demons, ghost demons, weird demons, and strange creatures also all come to disturb your dhyana concentration.

”Why do they do this?”

Because before you attain Buddhahood you are a member of the demons’ family. When you decide to leave the family of demons, cultivate dhyana concentration, end birth and death, and break through the turning wheel, the demons are still fond of you. They love you and can’t let you go. Therefore they come to bother your spirit and disturb your dhyana concentration.

www.cttbusa.org...

By the way, there is no such thing as a "heavenly demon".

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Jesus never performed any miracles, sorry to burst your bubble, those are pagan themes put into the story by Rome before they legalized it.

The miracles of Jesus aren't unique at all. They definitely are told in a way similar to the claims made by the Jewish Rabbis known as "the Sages".

According to the Talmud, those "miracles" ceased for "the Sages" once their authority was established and they started writing the Talmud. Is Rome responsible for the Talmud too?

The miracles are part of the Jewish paradigm, not a pagan paradigm.

reply to post by pthena

The OP has hardly written anything, hasn't answered questions, and his apologists fill in the blank spaces with their own ideas, then claim that they are the OPs teachings. Not rational.

They obviously think that all of their "truths" will lead to the same "truth" in the end, but it won't and that's why filledcup doesn't get answers from the OP. The OP probably has no idea what filledcup is talking about, because they follow different paths that lead to different ends with no mutual understanding.

reply to post by pthena


Either way, the miracles didn't happen. Somebody put them into the story afterwards, and my bet Is on Rome. The miracles have a lot of pagan symbolism within them, as in giving completely natural things a supernatural twist. All of Jesus' miracles can be attributed to natural phenomena quite easily.

reply to post by Deetermined

Someone has already floated the idea that the OP is a known hoaxster who has been banned numerous times.

This thread has certainly brought out much braggadocio and quite ugly hypocrisy from the self proclaimed "enlightened ones". Maybe that's the actual point of the thread.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by pthena

 

The OP has hardly written anything, hasn't answered questions, and his apologists fill in the blank spaces with their own ideas, then claim that they are the OPs teachings. Not rational.

They obviously think that all of their "truths" will lead to the same "truth" in the end, but it won't and that's why filledcup doesn't get answers from the OP. The OP probably has no idea what filledcup is talking about, because they follow different paths that lead to different ends with no mutual understanding.

while u dwell in assumptions. let us note that i have not come to any determination of the OP's truth nor whether he has achieved samadhi. if he has achieved samadhi i would understand why his responses are so sparse as having his mind recently blown by a spiritual ascendance who's explanation will defy all reasoning of an ego mind with no spiritual direction will seem confounding. noone's apologizing for the OP and his apparent abandonment of the thread. the fact remains.. the OP's claim is as equally unverified as it is verified BY YOU to be false!.

your fear of the dark is yours and yours alone. for Ye do i walk thru the valley of the shadow of death. I will fear no evil. The Lord is my Rod and my Staff. if you think that you're going to achieve any form of spiritual liberation by wrapping urself in a cuccoon of comfort and not venturing into that darkness and having the faith to do so whilst fearing NO EVIL since the Lord is with you.. then who is selling themselves short? living a lie? underachieving Christ's mission for us? and claiming entry to heaven on the premise that you believe in christ and that he died for your sins so u are forgiven for all the evil you do without having to do anything further.. u are sooo sadly mistaken. sit on ur arse and wait for the Kingdom of God to come to u. u just wait right there.

Originally posted by pthena
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Jesus never performed any miracles, sorry to burst your bubble, those are pagan themes put into the story by Rome before they legalized it.

The miracles of Jesus aren't unique at all. They definitely are told in a way similar to the claims made by the Jewish Rabbis known as "the Sages".

According to the Talmud, those "miracles" ceased for "the Sages" once their authority was established and they started writing the Talmud. Is Rome responsible for the Talmud too?

The miracles are part of the Jewish paradigm, not a pagan paradigm.

no but Rome is responsible for which translations from the ancient hebrew text by various scribes were chosen to be put in the bible. in so doing.. they actually rejected the translation from an enlightened scribe and gave christianity the watered down scholarly version of the translation. ppl actually think this english book is the same as Ancient Hebrew would desribe. misleading themselves to not understand how much is lost in the meaning of the scripture from such a translation. Had Rome wanted us to have the whole truth from the mouths of one of God's elect, they would have given us the translations from Rabbi Meir!

reply to post by filledcup


That's just it. I keep telling you that was NOT Jesus Christ's mission for us. For all of you who want to dabble in it for your "truth", God is going to allow you to be deceived by these demons that you think you have the power to overcome, when you don't. They are smarter than you no matter how smart you think you are.

For disobeying what Jesus told everyone not to mess with, he will eventually allow them to "believe the lie".