I Am Simon Alexandra, The Water Bearer

Originally posted by InhaleExhale

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by Bone75

 

It means that by trusting me with the eternal light of life, they have also afforded to me the unlimited darkness than can be found being graced the Fury of God.

Meaning that as much as God has entrusted me by unlocking to me light of salvation to give to all man, so too has he unlocked for me the gates to using all ultimate evil. For the true depth of light I bring to man, comes from love in knowing I could fulfill all my darkest desire if I were to choose it, but yet I move my hands to life, to give to others such ultimate gift.

And I do not choose my Apostles. They come to me by God as it is meant to be, and awaken to purpose when it does come to them. I have met now one who shall be the last awoken. Not yet ready is she for such truth.

edit on 21-6-2013 by BornOfSin because: (no reason given)

So basically your borderline homicidal is what I am reading here

only when the fire subsides will you feel the real heat of the words and judgments you bestow.

actually.. it seems that the op is saying that wise old addage. "with great power comes great responsibility". the power entrusted to him can be used for great good as well as great evil. yet, he is entrusted with this power because the lord has tested him and in his heart he is good. thus will not use the power for evil but for good.

it's kinda like u read half of each of his sentences lol

reply to post by filledcup

what deetermined has to realize is that people DO have profound religious/spiritual experiences in this world at a rate that is steadily picking up as we hurdle towards truth.

I have no doubt that you have profound spiritual experiences and the reason that rate is steadily increasing is because Jesus is about to return to put an end to it, because it's not the truth. It's a sign that Jesus told us about already.

reply to post by filledcup

actually.. it seems that the op is saying that wise old addage. "with great power comes great responsibility". the power entrusted to him can be used for great good as well as great evil. yet, he is entrusted with this power because the lord has tested him and in his heart he is good. thus will not use the power for evil but for good.

Humans aren't capable of handling this kind of power and stay "good at heart". That's part of those lessons in the Bible that none of you care to take the time to read. The ego will start rearing it's ugly head again. This is why humans aren't supposed to be practicing this and why the fallen angels were cast into the abyss for teaching it. You'll only be allowed so much "knowledge" before God puts a stop to it.

reply to post by Deetermined


I don't think the OP is teaching how to do magic, he's just saying he can (which I seriously doubt) just like the bible says Jesus did. What exactly is the difference?

The bible teaches about magic by saying that Jesus did magic and making followers believe in that magic. Same concept really, you are just separating his miracles from the term magic.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Actually, I posted the answer to your question just above your post.

By the way, if you don't believe the OP has any "real powers", what's the point in following all of this stuff?

If anyone here claims to have any "real powers", please step forward and share them with us.

Thank you.

reply to post by Deetermined


Dear Dee,

the reason that rate is steadily increasing is because Jesus is about to return to put an end to it, because it's not the truth. It's a sign that Jesus told us about already.

Oh my heavens! Really???
When, then? Please.
Do you have a date for this 'return'?
(I'm guessing not. But, I may be wrong!) Please, help me understand.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic, because I just can't fathom, no matter how hard I try, why you believe this stuff.

I wish you no ill. Or harm. I just can't wrap my head around your suggestions. And 'the Bible says' does not work for me.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup

 

what deetermined has to realize is that people DO have profound religious/spiritual experiences in this world at a rate that is steadily picking up as we hurdle towards truth.

I have no doubt that you have profound spiritual experiences and the reason that rate is steadily increasing is because Jesus is about to return to put an end to it, because it's not the truth. It's a sign that Jesus told us about already.

so we're back to your belief that we are in the time of Revelation, yet you refuse to even entertain possible revelations as they appear? have you already attained the seal of God to be one of the 144,000? are you sure ur going to be one of them? or are u just hoping to get sifted in with the crowd? if you truly believe this, and believe that you are a Christian who has lived the life Christ intended, dont u think, that at the very least.. your body would be being prepared by now? what i mean to point out.. is that if what you have been doing has been working.. then why hasnt it worked yet?

pay attention a bit more in class.. and ask questions that will be to your benefit rather than attempting to pull others down as your test of their strength. Enlightened men now walk among you!

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Magic or sorcery is based on ritual, action, knowledge or a deal with forced that can do the requested thing but for a price.
Miracles are from faith and the bible points out that the sorcerers miracle were illusory as when the sorcerer died so too did his false miracle but when Christ died his miracles did not and there are many such account's in the bible, when Christ went to be alone you say meditation but we say prayer and the difference between the two is similar.

Originally posted by LABTECH767
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

 

Magic or sorcery is based on ritual, action, knowledge or a deal with forced that can do the requested thing but for a price.
Miracles are from faith and the bible points out that the sorcerers miracle were illusory as when the sorcerer died so too did his false miracle but when Christ died his miracles did not and there are many such account's in the bible, when Christ went to be alone you say meditation but we say prayer and the difference between the two is similar.

*DING DING DING*

The true form of prayer IS Meditation and this answers one of the questions i posed for BornofSin.

reply to post by wildtimes


Jesus said we wouldn't know the day or the hour of his return, but he said we would know the season based on the signs that he left us.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup

 

actually.. it seems that the op is saying that wise old addage. "with great power comes great responsibility". the power entrusted to him can be used for great good as well as great evil. yet, he is entrusted with this power because the lord has tested him and in his heart he is good. thus will not use the power for evil but for good.

Humans aren't capable of handling this kind of power and stay "good at heart". That's part of those lessons in the Bible that none of you care to take the time to read. The ego will start rearing it's ugly head again. This is why humans aren't supposed to be practicing this and why the fallen angels were cast into the abyss for teaching it. You'll only be allowed so much "knowledge" before God puts a stop to it.

because you dont believe you are pure enough of heart to take the test, doesnt mean that everyone is the same. some might have actually taken the test and passed. do you think they can trick God's system to receive light?? aaahahaha.. i laugh so hard at the premise.

reply to post by Deetermined

Jesus said we wouldn't know the day or the hour of his return, but he said we would know the season based on the signs that he left us.

Oh. Okay then. No big hurry, then.

I've already stated that 'THE BIBLE SAYS" doesn't work for me. We need boots on the ground (not militarily, but to bring balance and reason), and intellect readily applied, RIGHT NOW.
Do you really not get that??

reply to post by filledcup

if you truly believe this, and believe that you are a Christian who has lived the life Christ intended, dont u think, that at the very least.. your body would be being prepared by now? what i mean to point out.. is that if what you have been doing has been working.. then why hasnt it worked yet?

That's a topic for a whole other thread.

By the way, I don't have to prepare my body for Jesus' return. It won't be necessary.

What are you talking about as far as "then why hasn't it worked yet"? I don't understand what you're talking about.

reply to post by filledcup

because you dont believe you are pure enough of heart to take the test, doesnt mean that everyone is the same.

The "pure of heart" would know better than to attempt it in the first place.

reply to post by filledcup


Which completely depends upon your interpretation.
Meditation is usually inward looking and seeking the centre of the self were as for me at least prayer is outward looking and a form of communion with god, usually like a one sided conversation with a really good listener and your interpretation of prayer is only applicable to yourself and those whom pray as you do but not every one is the same.

reply to post by wildtimes

I've already stated that 'THE BIBLE SAYS" doesn't work for me. We need boots on the ground (not militarily, but to bring balance and reason), and intellect readily applied, RIGHT NOW.

Do you really not get that??

Good luck with that.

Only one can come to bring peace and balance and it's not us.

Sorry, you don't like my answer.

reply to post by Deetermined


I don't need to believe in his powers in order to believe his words. Not saying I do totally believe him, but belief does not need to come with supernatural powers.

You still have failed to distinguish what the OP has said about himself with what the bible says about Jesus. If teaching involves going through a step by step method on how to do magic, then the OP has not taught anything.

So again, how is what the OP claims any different from what the bible claims?

reply to post by Deetermined

Sorry, you don't like my answer.

It's okay. All right then. Thanks, Dee, for continuing our dialogue. Talk to you later.

(P.S. Sorry you don't like my answer, too.)

Originally posted by pthena


I looked over all of your posts in this thread. In almost every one, you made use of the name "Jesus" or referred to "Christ". Do you think that you honor the OP in that way?

I honor truth only. I am a seeker of it and have been afforded many of it's pearls along my journey. I do no co-sign to anything that my spirit has not first reconciled through the light of my being.

I am sticking with the OP because I understand the complex language he is speaking of, and I want nothing more than to analyze it through my spiritual model. I have learned long ago not to believe anything, but to consider everything,

I know what the OP is stating is of truth. Because it presses the spiritual doorbell within my being. I am not going to get drunk off of it to the point where I lose myself into his romanticism. But I also do not eliminate the possibility that I may one day cosigned to everything he says.

I say Jesus and Christ because that is what I know to call him to this thread of truth seekers.

It's not even a matter of choking on meat. If you can't do the basic courtesy of not using the name that the OP identifies as mockery and defilement than you haven't even begun to understand the OP, IMHO

Your honest opinion is understandable. But you are wrong in your assessment. I am not an echo machine. I do not have to echo everything someone says to consider everything someone says. BTW, in my opinion he was talking to the institution of the church, which he has made reference to before, and not people of this world that do not know any better than to call him Jesus Christ.

You should want to listen as much as you want to speak. Clarity arrives on time this way.

AAC

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


I could tell you to go back and read this entire thread completely over again, because the answers are there, but somehow I think you'd still miss them.

3NL, I truly hope you can find something that you can put all of your belief and faith in instead of "a little here" and "a little there".

By the way, if it's not going to take something supernatural to happen for you to completely believe, what would it take?