Mainstream consumers waking up to Xbox1 spying on them! Amazon leading the wake up call!

Also more to add here, in the last few days it seems to have come to light
that should your Xbox live account get banned, you will lose the ability to
play all your games, this box requires a check in on the net every 24 hrs,
if your acct is banned it cannot check in therefore no more games, at
least that's what it looks like so far, so lets see, cant share games, cant
buy used games, cant have it if your internet is either slow or spotty, cant
be sure that your 1000$+ investment (including games price) will not be
a brick because your 13 year old son got mad at someone on the
net and they got their little feelings hurt..... hmmm lets see how hard
a choice is it really?

I don't console game at all, always hated the limited abilities consoles
have compared to PC, while steam can be similar in some ways
i just avoid the games that require an online connection, if i cant
play it the way i want then well i just wont play it, or i will buy a copy
and download the crack for it to tear out all the intrusive DRM and
online checks.......

Point is Microsoft might well be getting ready to learn a hard lesson
on this one.

Its not like Microsoft generates any kind of sustainable revenue from there Windows operating systems. These draconian requirements will sink there XBoxOne!

Good riddance I say!

Put it this way if i want the 1984 experience I will go stand outside with the CCTV cameras!

I usually go with xbox but I will be switching brands this time around. Hearing that you couldn't even buy used games was the nail in the coffin for me. The only reason I even buy consoles is for certain games that aren't on pc or are more suited to consoles anyway. Even then, I wait until the price drops, buy a used one, and then fill my library up with used games. I RARELY buy console games brand new. Screw you, gates.

But if you dont have a constant connection, how can your kinect watch you all the time?

...and upload the offline video when you can connect again*please wait while your life is being uploaded the NSA cloud servers*


*Achievement unlocked*
Sucker who bought his own invasion of privacy -100 good consumer points-

Originally posted by Biigs
But if you dont have a constant connection, how can your kinect watch you all the time?

...and upload the offline video when you can connect again*please wait while your life is being uploaded the NSA cloud servers*


*Achievement unlocked*
Sucker who bought his own invasion of privacy -100 good consumer points-

edit on 16-6-2013 by Biigs because: (no reason given)

There was an explanation of how the Kinect works - it recognises the silhouettes of people through image processing and the recognition of the shading of limbs. That compressed the data down to something that could be matches to particular human poses. Seems they have advanced this to recognise more than one person.

I can't wait to hear the first news report of a customer demanding a refund because their movie stopping playing everytime the cat walked in front of the TV

Originally posted by Biigs
But if you dont have a constant connection, how can your kinect watch you all the time?

...and upload the offline video when you can connect again*please wait while your life is being uploaded the NSA cloud servers*


*Achievement unlocked*
Sucker who bought his own invasion of privacy -100 good consumer points-

edit on 16-6-2013 by Biigs because: (no reason given)

There was an explanation of how the Kinect works - it recognises the silhouettes of people through image processing and the recognition of the shading of limbs. That compressed the data down to something that could be matches to particular human poses. Seems they have advanced this to recognise more than one person.

I can't wait to hear the first news report of a customer demanding a refund because their movie stopping playing everytime the cat walked in front of the TV

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Rumors are they will detect the number of faces watching a movie and turn it off if it goes over the 'limit'

and its not just silhouettes it tracks, its full HD video.

Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by Zedux

 

Links are not working and most on here will not click link to facebook....

How do you know? Did you take a poll of how many people here used facebook? I clicked it... I use facebook.

OP: The numbers are amaizing! 39K vs 2K. That's insane! lol I'm glad to see people making a stand against yet another opened door to destroying privacy in today's age.

Do what they do in the movies.
Take a picture of the room and place said photo in front of the kinect camera, then bring in everyone!

Originally posted by stumason


Consoles are for kiddies and morons. Real gamers have proper rigs

Real gamers have consoles and PCs.



Mind you, I won't be going near the Xbox1. Not til it's chipped anyway. Which really won't take long.

I have a 360 in my bedroom, and my son has one in his. Neither of us are buying the xbox1. if our current consoles break, we will likely buy a used replacement until such a point as xboxlive not supporting our consoles any longer.

I also will not buy a PC with windows 8 I swear, if they don't get their crap together, i will end up a mac user.

I am not going to allow my electronics to enslave me. The spying. The prevention of watching movies at a family reunion or something. Not being able to borrow or buy games used. The OS that looks like Android and seems primed to funnel me into a marketplace as my only purchase portal.

It seems like MS did everything in its power to purposely persuade people to NOT but their product. It's kind of strange to be honest

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i was talking with someone, and the thought came up that if enough folks get suckered early on, a secondary "jailbreak" network could pop up for the xbox1.

For everyone that is trying to make a fool out of anyone who expresses concern about MS having a camera and a microphone in peoples living room 24/7 and is mandatory to be connected to the device which is connected to their own personal intranet (XboxLIVE) have a look at this.



financialcryptography.com...

It's confirmed -- Skype is revealing traffic to Microsoft.

A reader informed heise Security that he had observed some unusual network traffic following a Skype instant messaging conversation. The server indicated a potential replay attack. It turned out that an IP address which traced back to Microsoft had accessed the HTTPS URLs previously transmitted over Skype. Heise Security then reproduced the events by sending two test HTTPS URLs, one containing login information and one pointing to a private cloud-based file-sharing service. A few hours after their Skype messages, they observed the following in the server log:

65.52.100.214 - - [30/Apr/2013:19:28:32 +0200]
"HEAD /.../login.html?user=tbtest&password=geheim HTTP/1.1"

Utrace map
Zoom The access is coming from systems which clearly belong to Microsoft.
Source: Utrace They too had received visits to each of the HTTPS URLs transmitted over Skype from an IP address registered to Microsoft in Redmond. URLs pointing to encrypted web pages frequently contain unique session data or other confidential information. HTTP URLs, by contrast, were not accessed. In visiting these pages, Microsoft made use of both the login information and the specially created URL for a private cloud-based file-sharing service.

Now, the boys & girls at Heise are switched-on, unlike their counterparts on the eastern side of the pond. Notwithstanding, Adam Back of hashcash fame has confirmed the basics: URLs he sent to me over skype were picked up and probed by Microsoft.

What's going on? Microsoft commented:

In response to an enquiry from heise Security, Skype referred them to a passage from its data protection policy:

"Skype may use automated scanning within Instant Messages and SMS to (a) identify suspected spam and/or (b) identify URLs that have been previously flagged as spam, fraud, or phishing links."

A spokesman for the company confirmed that it scans messages to filter out spam and phishing websites.

Which means Microsoft can scan ALL messages to ANYONE. Which means they are likely fed into Echelon, either already, or just as soon as someone in the NSA calls in some favours.

Now tell me again how MS should be trusted with this kind of tech. in your living room and how people who question this are "crazy".

Originally posted by Biigs
reply to post by stormcell

 

Rumors are they will detect the number of faces watching a movie and turn it off if it goes over the 'limit'

and its not just silhouettes it tracks, its full HD video.

It's not a rumor, it's fact. I'm trying to find the article on kotaku.com regarding the patent M$ has regarding this feature.

kotaku.com...

The scary thing regarding the kinect is that it can detect heartbeats, it's microphone can clearly hear 6 individual voices in a crowded room, and it's camera is so good, it can see where your eyes are looking on the screen. So it can tell if you're watching the ads on it's dashboard.

I really don't understand why some people are ok with having this machine in their house. So much freedom removed, all for Halo & Gears of War?? C'mooonnn, I've been a gamer my whole life, and I can still say no thank you.

I'm very very non tecchie.
does the Kinect actually have a camera on it, that could be used to actually view you from a far, actually video you in your own home?

Originally posted by WilsonWilson
I'm very very non tecchie.
does the Kinect actually have a camera on it, that could be used to actually view you from a far, actually video you in your own home?

It has 2 HD cameras in it actually so it can see and process 3d stereoscopic images and can recognize up to 6 people at once in your living room. It also has a microphone and is always active as long as the console is plugged in.

It also has to be connected to the console otherwise the xbox one will not function.

Originally posted by WilsonWilson
I'm very very non tecchie.
does the Kinect actually have a camera on it, that could be used to actually view you from a far, actually video you in your own home?

The kinect is a very high quality HD camera, and I believe it can even film in 3-D, but don't quote me exactly on that piece. The kinect is also designed to move around to fit you into the camera. So if you stand in front of it, it adjusts itself to view you. Then if someone shorter stands in front of it, it readjusts to fit them.

Also note the high quality microphone they have on it, too. Though M$ stated that you can "power off" the kinect if you're worried about this stuff, the microphone is still on so it can "listen to your voice commands", but to be honest, it's so they can still listen to you.

There will be no privacy for any home that buys an Xbone.

wow thats really creepy.

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Is that the real Eric Cartman?