Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

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My brain is melting from scandal overload............

To WhiteAlice:
Thank you so very much for your very kind and understanding sentiments. I humbly accept your salute and return it with gratitude.

To KUMATIKA:
If your post is meant for me, my humble gratitude to you as well.

Peace

To loam:
I'm really humbled by your post and thank you so very much for your gracious welcome!
I look forward to posting my thoughts and impressions on this amazing site.

Peace

Hero | Define Hero at Dictionary.com
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noun, plural he·roes; for 5 also he·ros. 1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

To the people saying that he is not a hero:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO WOULD HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT HE IS DOING!
SO YOU'LL STAND BY YOUR CONVICTIONS BY SAYING YOU WILL REFUSE TO READ THE INFORMATION HE WILL SUPPLY BECAUSE YOU FEEL HE IS A CRIMINAL??
LIES! AS IF ANY OF YOU COULD DO THAT! YOU WILL BE DEVOURING EVERY WORD OF WHAT IS LEAKED!
HYPOCRITES!

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Well, welcome to the ATS family MildBill.

And thank you for comming forward with your expirience and expertise.

Now RP is ripping in to them I love it!


Ron Paul On CNN Destroys The NSA Over The Verizon Spying Scandal

To TrueBrit:
Thank you for your gracious welcome to ATS.

The NSA equivalent in the UK is GCHQ: Government Communications HeadQuarters.

Or at least it was back in my day, the mid to late 60's and early 70's. GCHQ is in the same business as the NSA and they share pertinent intelligence.

Peace

To all of the internet turd trolls who have been attempting to paint Snowden as some sort of terrorist that is aiding the enemy or an attention whore...pay close attention.

"I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest," he said. "There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn't turn over, because harming people isn't my goal. Transparency is."

I hope Rand Paul introduces a Proclumation in support of Snowden forcing a vote whereby Senators are forced to expose their position to take advantage politically.
He loses all credibility if repeats Feinstein's call for prosecution...

Wow! This guy looks like a remarkably low-grady nerd, but (given the example made of Bradley Manning) he seems to have balls made of/equivalent to some seriously tough titanium.

Honest respect!

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Show how free America is that he is on the side of the people but has to go into hideing from the people who govern you. Im not saying its any better here in the uk but I think its a sad day when someone sticks his neck online the line for our freedom and we'l just watch them hang him out to dry.

This is how a sharp foreigner views the US:

US will do whatever is needed, legal and illegal, to bring Snowden back to the US. Snowden has committed a terrible sin: to demonstrate that US is not any longer the paradise of freedom and liberties that their presidents repeat once and again. The US, like the PRC and I'd say almost every country, doesn't give a sxxt on their citizens' liberties. Thanks Mr Snowden for being a real soldier of Freedom and Civil Rights. Nobel Peace Prize should go for you!

Originally posted by Maluhia

Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

www.guardian.co.uk

In a note accompanying the first set of documents he provided, he wrote: "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

Here is your definition of a hero.

The direction of the logic applied by Ed Snowden will only work, if the Representatives and Senators share the democratic call, which Ed is referring to.

That said, US President is naturally backing up his government, and actions thereby. The course of that action is aimed to wash the whole thing, and get over with it.

This does not mean Capitol Hill would buy that. Would Capitol Hill take action on this event, this would eventually lead to similar - or even bigger - event than what Watergate was during Nixon administration. Ed Snowden's case could escalate to a major fall-out for the Obama administration. And for the same reason, they would do everything in their powers (and more as Ed has disclosed) to actively limit exposure and development of the case.

In retrospective, Nixon was a Sunday school boy in comparison to the series of events attributed to the current government (irrespective to the arguments used to explain why current government has condoned to those actions). Nixon guys broke into party office and hassled around there. Obama guys - well - they're hassling pretty much everywhere. A whole different scale.

So, everything depends on what is the take of the democratic system (Capitol) on this. If they don't care, if the moral and value proposition from Ed Snowden does not really ring a bell - then he's a goner. In the opposite case, he'll be on his way to Capitol Hill.

This thread should have 500 flags and youtube video milions of views

First of all, this isn't entirely the work of Obama. This degree of Orwellian behavior very likely began during Bush2 and has simply been embellished to an incomprehensible point under the current, imperial administration. It doesn't make it any better but it does highlight how our red vs. blue political polarities and partisan gladiatorial divisions, only serve those who don't want us looking at them.

But that all now said, there is what could be a critical tripwire about to be sprung and the nation needs to move cautiously.

Right off the top, Obama needs to make a special address to the nation to completely clear the vision of what is happening. We all know the NSA is spying on America now so, let's give the people a full accounting of what is going on behind the scenes.

Ironically, the message here to those in Washington is that if they are not doing anything wrong, then they shouldn't mind an inspection tour.

Finally (and right now, most importantly), there should be NO effort to extradite or persecute Mr. Snowden. To do so could ignite a national furor unseen in our history. That's the tripwire, so to speak... as Washington, you see it, recognize it for what it is and you either arrogantly kick the trigger or you respect those who elected you.

It is my personal opinion that this is all a critical turning point. What happens next is, right now, entirely in the hands of Mr. Obama.

TOTAL safety can only be had in a TOTALitarian state. Most of us prefer freedom to total safety. There will be a terrorist attack here and there, but thats far better than living in an Orwellian society.

The USA need to do what the UK did in 1649 execute a head of state for treason to make it clear that EVERYBODY is subject to the law.

What if journalists covered US like they cover WORLD

www.globalpost.com...

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

After you sign a nondisclosure agreement? No, not really.

That should be invalid if what you see is illegal.


Treason is not treason if what what you come out and say is exposing a bigger treason.