Awareness. The creator of experience.

No words can properly identify what you are. You are the seer, not the seen. You see subjective interpretations of objects. Nothing you have ever seen is really the way it is. To try to see your self is to make yourself an object for examination, at which point the self becomes a subjective interpretation. This is the making of a false identity and the beginning of delusion.

Leaving the self, or contemplation of the self, out of the experience, out of the mind, puts the self at its proper function as the experiencer. Leaving yourself uncreated gives you the freedom to create. As the pure subject, your experience is unique. No other can have the same experience as you. You own your experience, and therefore, you are responsible for what you experience. No other is responsible for an experience that they will never have.

It is your duty as a unique experiencer to apply your will. What you desire to experience, you will. Most regard awareness as a receptive observer, but this is not entirely true. It is important to understand that you have a will for.a.reason. The will is not a.delusion, although it may be.misguided and ineffective. This is due to the delusions caused by self identity and trying to create, using the will, as the object you have erroneously defined yourself as. The will doesnt come from the object, it comes directly from the subject, but gets distorted along the way and loses its power as it is misapplied, or attributed to the false identity.

The core of the self, which is often referred to as "awareness", is the one with the will. Awareness, therefore is not.entirely receptive. The will happens after awareness. The will stands between the object and the subject. This is why you will.always see what you desire. Awareness is not just the passive receiver of experience, it also determines what is seen. It is your right to determine what you see, but you can only excercise that right once free from the delusions of the identity.

You are literally infinite without the identity. When you, the infinite being, applies your will, there is no limit to what you can create. When you are free from your identity, you are free as an infinte range of unidentified possibility. But dont ponder on what you could be, ponder on what you can see so that you leave yourself infinite and make the objects of your experience subject to your infinite creativity. Let your experience not be subject to your preconceptions and identity structures, but let your experience be subject to your infinite nature as the unidentified presence.

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With all of this awesome potential, what are you doing on a conspiracy forum? Go invent a new color or write a song unlike any ever heard on Earth before.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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With all of this awesome potential, what are you doing on a conspiracy forum? Go invent a new color or write a song unlike any ever heard on Earth before.

This is my choice. And I am content here. But, before I got here, on my way to work, I was singing in my car. I experienced myself sounding pretty f__ awesome.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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With all of this awesome potential, what are you doing on a conspiracy forum? Go invent a new color or write a song unlike any ever heard on Earth before.

Its one thing to be on a conspiracy forum by choice, trying to help, or encourage, others while maintaining the awareness that you have infinite perceptual potential, but its another to come to a conspiracy forum trying to induce doubt into peoples lives because either you doubt your potential or you believe you are the only person in the universe who should have glory, which you have clearly indicated in all my encounters with you over the past year ive been seeing you on this conspiracy forum is your situation. Clearly

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Its one thing to be on a conspiracy forum by choice, trying to help, or encourage, others while maintaining the awareness that you have infinite perceptual potential, but its another to come to a conspiracy forum trying to induce doubt into peoples lives because either you doubt your potential or you believe you are the only person in the universe who should have glory, which you have clearly indicated in all my encounters with you over the past year ive been seeing you on this conspiracy forum is your situation. Clearly

I don't try to induce doubt. I try to induce a more earnest search for introspective clarity. If you feel I am trying to sow doubt, then perhaps that is because my demonstrations of introspective clarification inspire doubt within you. It is not for me to know why. That's your issue to resolve.

Afterinfinity reminds me of a good point I should make.

It is true that the seer cannot be seen and as such is the pure subject who, left unidentified, remains pure in its infinite potential. This is the truth. But absolving yourself of your identity is a very difficult task. Especially when lost individuals, such as afterinfinity, constantly try to bring you to their most lowest levels.of.perceptual.fortitude. But even beyond these major.stumbling blocks and annoying thorns in the rose bush, such as afterinfinity, there is also your own vehicle of observation which is the human anatomy. In your experience, there are other humans who serve as constant reminders of your human identity.. So it is a difficult task to see the true self, the ultimate subject underneath all these veils.of.temporary identities. But it is not impossible.

And dont let the naysayers and the skeptics, like afterinfinity and company, tell you that you arent great. Dont let them tell you you cant be free and powerful. This is their experience which they have chosen, and because they have identified this.as.their human condition, they sadly believe that it applies.to all humans. They are deluded. So dont listen to them, because they dilligently seek to bring you down to their low low level. Pity them.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Its one thing to be on a conspiracy forum by choice, trying to help, or encourage, others while maintaining the awareness that you have infinite perceptual potential, but its another to come to a conspiracy forum trying to induce doubt into peoples lives because either you doubt your potential or you believe you are the only person in the universe who should have glory, which you have clearly indicated in all my encounters with you over the past year ive been seeing you on this conspiracy forum is your situation. Clearly

I don't try to induce doubt. I try to induce a more earnest search for introspective clarity.

Then we are on the same path.

If you feel I am trying to sow doubt, then perhaps that is because my demonstrations of introspective clarification

You have demonstrated no such thing. You have offered no information to support your doubts. You have clarified.nothing and you have only demonstrated how opposing you can be. And now, with the claim that you have made that you believe you have contributed clarification to this thread, you have also demonstrated how one.sided and.deluded you are.

inspire doubt within you. It is not for me to know why. That's your issue to resolve.

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You have not inspired.doubt, you have only confronted me as a doubter who wishes.for.me.to.doubt. You are not smart or clever and you have not.contribured any clarification on anything.besides how doubtful you are. It is obvious that it is not.for you to know why, because it is not.for you to know.anything. It is obvious that the only reason you come.to these threads is.to stroke your ego and cretae the appearance that you are.somehow.intelligent by trying to derail threads using words backed by little.sustenance rarely adding any contribution of your own unless it supports your.ego. It isnt for you to know why, because you do not wish to know why necause you lack empathy and exhibit an intense.apathy. Any true intellectual knows that such apathy as you display ks no path to "clarification".

In the year that ive seen you on ats, you have never clarified anything, you have not.proven any intelligence, you have only proven arrogance of the.highest, most foolish degree. Hows that for clarification. Let me guess? This is going.to be arrogantly laughed off as you fail to confront your shortcomings in exchange for saving your ego as you somehow.find a.way to turn it around on me? Thats usually how it goes.with you oblivious, arrogant types. So please do, so that people can watch you unfold and.expose yourself for.what you.really are.

My typing errors are due to the small keyboard of my phone.

Self awareness is nessessary for people to get through life without stepping on others toes......
One doesnt have to be hung up on oneself or slave to ones illusions either...
One need ne aware of others and coduct one self in such fashion as to offer them no harm......
self examination is critical to this........

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" It is true that the seer cannot be seen"

Unless you happen to own a mirror.

" But absolving yourself of your identity is a very diffiicult task."

I would not recommend trying.

" And dont let the naysayers and the skeptics, like afterinfinity and company, tell you that you arent great. "

Please don't accuse me of something I have not said.

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You are surely one to talk about not providing information to support your ideas. Don't be such a hypocrite.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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With all of this awesome potential, what are you doing on a conspiracy forum? Go invent a new color or write a song unlike any ever heard on Earth before.

And you call this a."demonstration of introspective clarification?" What a joke. What have you clarified? How you believe im wrong although you have no reason to support it? Pleas, let this thread not.be.for.fools, but for people who wish to have a discussion.

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Please stop attacking me, and focus upon the ideas I have presented in response to your own. For someone who is advocating loss of identity, you are exhibiting quite an ego.

To get riled up over someone's post is to feel threatened by their belief system. It is a form of insecurity. Watch out for those feelings ;]

Originally posted by stirling
Self awareness is nessessary for people to get through life without stepping on others toes......
One doesnt have to be hung up on oneself or slave to ones illusions either...
One need ne aware of others and coduct one self in such fashion as to offer them no harm......
self examination is critical to this........

"self awareness" is like saying "animal creature". Its two words to say the exact same thing. So you cannot have self awareness, you can only have self or awareness. Awareness and will are all that is needed to determine create a desirable experience. If you desire empathy, you will create it through will and then become aware of what is empathic. But self examination is not the examination of the self,but only the examination of the identity, which in itself is a self proclaimed creation. The one proclaiming is the self. The self s the one with the will and the power. The self is the creator. The identity is the creation. It is the observation. It is the filter for the will. It is the chain that binds. There is no self to be examined. There is only the self to be.

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Remember how I said that my attempts to encourage introspective clarification might sow doubt? Anger is a symptom of denial. It seems someone doesn't practice what they preach. Watch and learn.

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A spider is a creature, but not an animal. So no they are not the same. A man in a coma has a self but not an awareness. So again they are not the same. You really should start clarifying between fact and opinion.

I think my intention was misinterpreted :] that is too simple an occurrence through virtual text

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Then do clarify. Not enough clarification goes into these things.

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by stirling
Self awareness is nessessary for people to get through life without stepping on others toes......
One doesnt have to be hung up on oneself or slave to ones illusions either...
One need ne aware of others and coduct one self in such fashion as to offer them no harm......
self examination is critical to this........

"self awareness" is like saying "animal creature". Its two words to say the exact same thing. So you cannot have self awareness, you can only have self or awareness. Awareness and will are all that is needed to determine create a desirable experience. If you desire empathy, you will create it through will and then become aware of what is empathic. But self examination is not the examination of the self,but only the examination of the identity, which in itself is a self proclaimed creation. The one proclaiming is the self. The self s the one with the will and the power. The self is the creator. The identity is the creation. It is the observation. It is the filter for the will. It is the chain that binds. There is no self to be examined. There is only the self to be.

Self awareness is as simple as looking in a mirror and recognising that image is you reflected. There is no self or a difference of awareness of the reflected image; as the IMAGE is a 2d construct. There is no thing that is attained in this life without the element of WILL enforced. Desire is something completely different as it implies a wishing for not an enforcement of. Self examination is left to the pondering right field-dome of Buddism, who hits the idea to my realm, dont have to worry about it, because EGO is not getting in the way. Identity is the creation? No I dont think so, self identity is just the first baby step, 5 senses primal are not a filter for willfullness, more a tool to keep yourself on this side of living to justify your being; have time to establish yourself as a willful being and recognise yourself in the mirror. SELF RULES, games to play and best the better of others. IF you are saying that self realisation is a creative act; I totally agree, thats the point of the exercise.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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" It is true that the seer cannot be seen"

Unless you happen to own a mirror.

Being clever is not the same as being right. Let me add some facts to this discussion so you dont simply think im stating opinions like you suggested and then based this lie on your calling me a "hypocrite". You do not see your self wjen you look into a mirror. You see an interpretation of an object. This interpretation is subjective and is unique and different from all other interpretations. Being that, in a mirror, you see that which can be seen trillions of different ways, how do you believe the sight you see is the true representation of that object? Therefore, even looking in a mirror, the self is not seen. Only a subjective interpretation.

" But absolving yourself of your identity is a very diffiicult task."

I would not recommend trying.

Oh yeah. Good point. I can tell by the superiority of the tone of your words alone that I should do just that. No need to clarify your point here. got ya. thanks for your clarification.