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Originally posted by doryinaz
On June 1st, Mike Zullo presented a 2 hour informational speech to a group of Sheriffs, and Constitutional Lawyers...and even one congressman. This can be found on PPSIMMONS.com. For those of you who thought the "cold case posse" was dead...they are fully up and running, and causing quite a stir. They have run their investigation as they would any other criminal investigation, and found the Obama is NOT who he claims to be! This is no joke, and it is not any kind of political baloney. They are doing an end-around the mainstream press (who have labeled them crazy birthers and other demeaning things), but this is NOT going away. Anybody hear anything else? The story can be found on "Before it's News", as well. I'd appreciate any information from ATS'rs!
Originally posted by Magister
reply to post by knightsofhonor
To be President you have to be a "natural born citizen". That means born in this country and your parents were born here too.
Originally posted by grey580
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Not this again. I can imagine that the mental gymnastics on that link must be of Olympic proportions.
I think we've gone over all the evidence on this site. And I find the birther arguments lacking.
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by Magister
reply to post by knightsofhonor
To be President you have to be a "natural born citizen". That means born in this country and your parents were born here too.
What it means is always up for debate because the Constitution did not define it. You can be natural born citizen and your parents not be US citizens if you are born in the United States, And you do not have to have been born in the US if your parents are US citizens. That is what the courts have decided through out US history. Of course the fear at the time was a Brit was going to show up, get elected and return the US to the crown. The founders never bothered to define what a natural born citizen and had been using just the term US citizen but changed it at the last moment with out explaning what or if their was a difference. Could be they just like the sound of it, I am sure they never saw it as something people down the line would be debating or the would have been more clear. Of course Obama was born in HI and his mother was a US citizen so their is no debate about him.
Originally posted by tkwasny
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
reply to post by Magister
??? His mother was American and he was born in Hawaii. Case closed.
Notice that the word PARENTS is plural, which means both the mother AND the father are to be US citizens at the time of the child's birth? Daddy communist was never a US citizen at the time of ITS birth.
Originally posted by Magister
Michell has said he is from Kenya.
Barry has said he is from Kenya.
Barry's Granny said he is from Kenya.
Kenyans say he is from Kenya.
Harvard says he is from Kenya.
Natural born citezens are born on US soil. If, for example, your parents were German citizens and you were born on US soil you could have dual citizenship. And dual alligences. The first presidents were not "natural born", no one was. Thats why they put in the constitution the exemption for citizens at the time of signing the constitution.