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Originally posted by Initiate

You poor souls have no idea how much harm you do with your empty gossiping, slandering, ridiculing.

The National Enquirer = Your stage of development.

Are you kidding us?

You make a statement like this, then follow with ridiculing by hypocritical example/analogy?

Once a member on ATS starts in with exactly what they are saying not to do, then IMO all credibility is lost.

Have fun with your thread.

Peace Out,

RT

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People are so lost and confused on here i don't even bother giving them the time of night to hear any of my educating rants.

Sorry guys but many of you are not on any kind of path to wisdom and true light.

Youl need base experiences to even have the slightest clue. If youv never seen an alien before, never had paranormal activity like having closet doors open when you have friends over and having everyone check inside and see nothing.

Things like that is what really gets your imagination going. Its not that you imagined seeing it. Its imagining what it is. And why that happened.

That's where the real imagination of the paranormal comes from. Its not something you just *think up* in meditation or an idea you forge. Its based off of experiences where you try to explain them the best way possible. And in doing so. May lead you to understanding the energies around you and how they work.

Other then a wall of text. Which is what most of people wrote here. With no real physics applied to spiritual concepts. We just rant about random stuff that really gets people no where. Like what i just typed.

Dear Initiate -

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights. I am nearly 60 years old now and my earliest memories have been wondering what wrong turn I took to end up on this insane planet and what I can do to ensure I don't 'have' to return. One of my fears is upon passing forgetting all I've learned (or not learned) and having to start over again - and again - trying to figure out first of all 'where I am' so that I can then decide where I 'want' to go.

I feel overwhelmed and outnumbered most of the time and struggle just to make ends meet. It has always seemed to me like this planet is some dust ball lost and forgotten in some dark corner of the universe/existence. I want to hold on to the belief that our souls are eternal and all powerful - but I also have had reason to suspect that our incarnating on this planet required that we freely gave up our free will... hence the (eternal?) enslavement on all levels - physical and spiritual. Your comment on this would be welcome.

As far as questions for you -

What do you see 'is' Karma - is it a natural law that automatically manages it? is it run like a corporation? or?
What are the Divine Laws you mentioned that cannot be broken?
What is the best way to become part of the Right Hand path and meet teachers and brothers like you speak of?
Is there anything we can do to invite/request/plea for help?
Do we have any choices when we die? Why do we forget past lives?

You previously said
"They are observing this very thread right now with great interest. They are assessing the level of mankind based on the consciousness expressions exhibited by the public. Why don't we use this thread to prove that we are not all repulsive apes, who have yet to evolve from the peasant stage? Members of the Dark Brotherhood would also have caught a glimpse of this thread by now."
Who are 'they' that you refer to when you wrote this? Are they physical? Spiritual?

Thank you -

I have been watching this thread with much interest as there are gems of truth which have struck a chord with me and will make me more carefully choose the way I walk thru this world.

However,
I do not support name calling as the OP has resorted to.
It really doesn't matter to me who he is.
He very well may be exactly who he says he is but, resorting to name calling is never going to accomplish anything no matter who you are or claim to be.

This goes for both sides of the rediculous debate.
It is beyond me why people feel the need to call people names.
You do nothing but ruin your own credibility and lower yourself to the lowest common denominator of the thread.


But hey, what the hell do I know?

Carry on, this is getting to be more entertaining than informative.
and isn't that what everyone on this planet needs right now?

More entertainment and less information.

to OP-

the #1 problem you have encountered during the development of this thread is that you misguaged the timing and/or life-cycle of the typical ATS thread. you couldn't have known any better, so its not your fault.

you shouldn't worry if you decide to not resume your "3rd session". even if you do, two more days from now this will have devolved into hooliganism and 'page 50 vandalism' and subsequently be closed.

anyone who could've gotten something from your thread, has already done so. let it fade.

quick non-esoterical question: in your more recent posts, you have had some glib exchanges with members (ex: HERE) where you appear to have some rapport. as I am certain that many folks would like to fancy themselves as "on your level", how is it that you can determine whether or not they ACTUALLY are? or are you just humoring them? (none of that is intended as an accusation or reference to your "ego")


...I am already anticipating your next "treatise".

Originally posted by Initiate
As previously stated, I will be back with a major treatise, as my brothers have decided that based on the questions I am currently up to (I am up to some very important questions for the human race at large), a very special moment in human 'history' is going to take place.

Come on then, let's have the details. I won't be holding my breath.

This thread has self-destructed in precisely the way I expected it would. Too many people find your answers evasive, and as soon as they began to point this out you lost control.

Now you simply throw insults as a substitute for valid rebuttals. That doesn't strike me as a particlarly enlightened thing to do. Clearly you are no more knowledgeable than anyone else here, and your grandiose claims are bogus.

reply to post by Initiate

The others, will be privy to a revelation, that hasn't occurred since centuries ago.

The majority of humanity will be 'blocked off' from this treatise, as it is not their karmic right to be able to comprehend it.

Actually this is very dark. Those you deal with are not FAMILY. What Family ie, the Higher Ups that are what we call GOD or connected via this, is all the finest and highest attributes of LOVE: tenderness, compassion, EQUALITY, gentleness, commitment, going the extra mile for any in need, taking blows but not returning them, FREEDOM, honesty, transparency, empowerment of others. And after a huge long list of the most positive traits, turn the dial up 1000000000..... times to get to the level they in their Holistic Infinity are at. And they don't switch hats.

I don't like mystery school, but its far more serious than that, it separates souls from LOVE.

What Love does is go to the trenches. It would gives its all to help one murderer in jail, one violent teen, everyone.

Ask Love who is the greatest and they will seek out the most forsaken and crown them!

Love does not hide under a veil. It does not lay traps for anyone. And it always shines its light.


Grades don't matter either. If your a thimbleful, or a cupful of you Infinite Self , YOU ARE!

reply to post by Initiate



You have a matching pair of baboons on your mantle piece, one is called Blavatsky the other Crowley, a baboon by any other name is still a gibbering beast.

She was 'hunted' down and her name besmirched in all ways by pseudo-intellectuals, emotionalists and other phony critics who cannot think for themselves

Those were the days of 'Big Game Hunting' nowadays Baboons are more protected.

No. I will respond to certain individuals who attempt to cast suspicion and other repulsive qualities in an attempt to spread that pestilence beyond this board. Further, it is a duty of every human being to defend the honor of those who aren't present -- especially if those individuals have made huge sacrifices for an idiotic, barbarous mankind.

Yes, i guess they catered for a specific audiance.

My brothers are in agony every single day, by the stupidities they are constantly exposed to, when their consciousnesses are in any contact with the lower planes of our planet.

The Brothers need to develop a sense of humour, this may also help with the pomposity issues.

Humanity is still obsessed/possessed and doomed, apparently, by the cult of appearances/personality/speculation.

You were sort of counting on that...

I will not tolerate false accusations and rumors as to my person, nor will I tolerate asinine, belligerent, puerile remarks about a fellow brother, eons ahead in evolution of all of you combined!

And no, I am not defending anybody's ego. Many of you, once you are 'initiated,' will learn the terrible follies of standing still, while great injustices are done.

Blavatsky was a silly moo-moo...it's sort of like having magic power over you lol


Let's face it, when a Truly Enlightened Being such as myself bothers to show you get spooked and run.

Hello ya'll,

I've been visiting this site for a couple of years now and like several others am compelled by this provocative thread to finally register and put in my 2 cents worth.

Reading Initiate's posts and the many responses both pro and con has been very stimulating, thought-provoking, and entertaining. The questions asked have been simple, sublime, insightful, incisive and profound.

The answers from Initiate, however, have been....how shall I put it?
If someone asks you what time it is, you don't recite the history of clocks!

I'm an ordinary human being who discarded religion many years ago. At 66 years of age I've very thankfully reached a time in my life where my spiritual beliefs are simple and satisfying, and I am generally at peace with myself, my fellow beings and the universe. My spiritual beliefs are:

The Universe is Alive and Conscious (Cosmic Consciousness).
We all are points of consciousness.
Earth is a school and we are here to learn.
The basic lessons we all have to learn is Love and evolving our consciousness.
There are many grades in the school of life.
We students range from pre-kindergartners to post-doctoral.

So, Initiate, you say that the great exalted beings in your brotherhood will not deign to incarnate onto Earth. I feel sorry for them. Haven't they learned compassion in that exalted plane they're on?
(By the way, we English speaking people call our planet Earth, not Terra. What are you, an ancient Roman?)

Stop being so arrogant, pretentious and condescending. You need to get down off your high horse and learn patience when you're dealing with us mere mortals. What did you expect on ATS? A bunch of fawning lackeys? You should observe the Dalai Lama, he smiles and laughs alot and is far more evolved than you!

I eagerly await your profound revelation, but since I'm just an ordinary human I probably won't "get it".

Lighten up, brother!
(Incidently, I too have a bad back so I do sympathize!)

Peace

reply to post by nimrod20032003


The problem is: "You are in the wrong thread"
If you don't resonate, believe or whatever here, leave us alone and start another thread with your ideas; but out of here.
You seems a warrior fighting for the truth and there is no war, there is no an absolute truth.

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Hello Initiate,

I apologies for my impatience, I was attempting to just read your answers to the questions of others but feel the need to ask as well. I can wait however until you have reached my turn for an answer. Thank you for your work.

I once was very hungover after a night of drinking an karaoke. Al my family was in the house and the were making a tone of noise, my voice box was in intense pain because I sang all night the night before with out any idea how. I got up due to the noise my family was making and took a pain pill. I laid back in bed and rested my eyes for just a moment and all the noise fro the house was replaced by beautiful music, sounded like a violin. I suddenly found my self in a very strange place I remember there was no land marks and the place just went on for ever. There were two very surprised wizards there, they had a moment of completely surprised expressions on their faces before one looked at me with frowning contempt and the other had a big smile on his face. The wizard with the frown had a blue and gold robe blond hair, long sword and departed by turning into an ice snake. The wizard with the big smile had a beard a black robe made from what looked like leather strips and turned into a black bird. I saw Earth from space and a satellite beaming something to Mexico. I woke up moments later in my bed.

All my life I have felt a deep pull toward something with no name. I feel sad when I have to explain some of the things that I have been through because I learned the hard way that I am supposed to keep my mouth shut when it comes to taking about helping people and why I would help them. I can however say. as advised to other readers, that if you help someone do not speak of it to anyone, or you might feel the sorrow from an external observer. A feeling of sorrow i wish upon no one. This deep pull had sent me on a journey with in myself for the past 30 years of my life, and thanks to many awesome and random people i have been guided into finding things out about myself i never would have guessed. Very distasteful things but luckily nothing beyond the need of work.

My questions Initiate are, If I hope to in some incarnation be a brother of the Right Had path will life provide the path? As in will the WM know what's in my soul and know that I wish to help others?

If your answers is yes, then, if by chance I was on the Right Had path and was not up to par and blabbed about my deeds to others, which i understand intimately is a huge screw up, is there forgiveness. Or as you are currently providing your knowledge as atonement would one as well be shown, told, or nudged in guidance for what must be done to tone for such mistakes?

Also do you have any insight as to what my wizards dream, vision was about or why it might have happened?

Thank you,

The Rat.

Hi Primelight,been thinking about this video you posted and Carolyn talked about seeing the antichrist and how he was full of light and if she did not know better she would have thought him to be the Christ..If this being appears at some time how will WE know if he the antichrist OR the real Christ??...This is scary..Thanks!

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You answered your own question below

One needs to have the Spirit of Christ fully alive in them.

Thank you Egyptia but that writing came from Carolyn Hamlett...Thanks to you and PrimeLight i am wanting to get to know Jesus better now and it looks like i am coming full circle from where i was yrs ago..I will never go back to religion tho..Love and Light to you both! As far as the OP thank you thank you for this thread!Because of it i am on my way to knowing Jesus Christ...I am so tired of being tossed like ocean waves not knowing what to believe..I am confident that will all end now! Much Love and light to you to!

You are most welcome---and now it is up to you to walk upon the stepping Stone of that Bridge in awareness that the worldly principalities (and their servants) will do all in their power to shake your bonds of faith on your journey to make you waiver from the Truth in the Body of Christ. I express such things not to promote fear, but to aid you in your steadfastness with preparation for the challenges ahead. A walk in Christ is not at all for the faint-hearted, however the Rewards are eternal if one can master in Him the corruptions upon the mind and flesh in this 'fallen' state of being. Salvation is King (Christ), though the house of Satan seeks to deny us our Divined birthright in the ransom that Yehushua paid for us all in Blood, so that we may have opportunity for Graceful Redemption on that Bridge, for all our folly in sin.

May this video if you have not already encountered, also help guide your seeking as much is exposed of the fallen principality power agenda. To be discerned at one's own discretion.

edit to add: I had no plans to send this link originally, however I was quickly Led to such and realise that after reading the context of what is Imparted with your comments to me in relation to Divined Prophecy. I never intended to address the Prophecy issue though it looks like the Scripture Presented itself to Speak on my behalf, and much Praise to the Kingdom for such Giftings. For you and all who seek the Kingdom Come, for thy Will be Done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
www.biblestudytools.com...:16-33

Much Love in Return and your kindness of heart truly warms mine. I am not used to that at all in this arena.

P.S--for what it's worth, our Father has always Kept me out the organised church branches and it's many corrupted doctrines my whole path, and yet He still Led me to His Son in my cause of seeking Truth, (and never religion), though I still been Instructed by the Holy Spirit on the value of the Sacraments that Christian church branches do still uphold, such as Marriage, Baptism and Communion that indeed serve Purpose (though I won't stray too far off topic with this matter). You are always welcome to U2U with any question.

Originally posted by Blasdelezo
reply to post by nimrod20032003

 

TheDude99 asked:
Nimrod, can you stop, please?

Nimrod replied:
Since you ask so nicely, I could certainly be so induced for adequate reason. What problem am I causing? Why do you wish me to stop?

Blasdelezo responds:
The problem is: "You are in the wrong thread"
If you don't resonate, believe or whatever here, leave us alone and start another thread with your ideas; but out of here. You seems a warrior fighting for the truth and there is no war, there is no an absolute truth.

I am sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about.

1) How am I in the wrong thread? From the little I know of this forum, this is LITERALLY "the grey area", the OP indicated he was here to entertain questions, and unlike YOU I am ON TOPIC (with my questions, not with these responses) so . . . ?

2) Why do you say I "don't resonate, believe or whatever", what have I done/said to give you this impression? All I have done is ask questions that I thought were appropriate.

According to the OP, it is not necessary that I BELIEVE - in fact I think it is detrimental to learning, one should try to have an open mind - simply that I suspend (pre)judgment (which I have done as much as is possible for me - this is a VERY difficult thing to REALLY do, although easy to fool yourself into thinking you have done), use that which DOES resonate with me and discard the rest.

I have done my best to comply and I have no idea why you think you are qualified to look inside my psyche and tell me (and others) any different. Do you think you are telepathically reading my thoughts/feelings? If so, you need to recalibrate your spidey senses :-)

3) Again, all I have done is post questions, what about that gives you the impression that I am a "warrior fighting for the truth and there is no war, there is no an absolute truth"?

For the record, I certainly don't mind being a "warrior fighting for truth" - sounds like a noble profession. I think there IS a war going on (with ignorance), and I agree that believing one HAS the ultimate truth (already) is detrimental to alleviating ignorance.

Not only do I not know WHAT you are talking ABOUT, I also don't know WHY you are talking about it - this has nothing to do with the OP's originating topic and can be somewhat distracting, so I probably won't respond to this type of distraction again ("again" because I already responded similarly to another post).

I see no harm in POLITELY allowing the OP to say whatever he wishes to say in whatever manner he wishes to say it because ANYONE that disagrees, doesn't like it, doesn't resonate with any of it, has better things to do, etc ad infinitum, can always just IGNORE THIS THREAD that is in the GRAY AREA.

Originally posted by TheDude99

The anonymity of the internet brings out the worst in people

I would disagree with this.

Anonymity gives the individual the incentive of no consequences to their pretend personality (fake everyday "ego" mask that they wear to appear civilized), to reveal their true underlying personality.

It is neither their best nor their worst. It is just who they are at the core, that comes through.

Sometimes, that core is pretty disgusting.

Originally posted by Initiate
As previously stated, I will be back with a major treatise, as my brothers have decided that based on the questions I am currently up to (I am up to some very important questions for the human race at large), a very special moment in human 'history' is going to take place.

Interestingly enough, it involves the physical sciences, that which your dull mind has not yet managed to glimpse through my texts.

Just out of curiosity, will this "treatise" have something to do with my question on page 10? I ask because I've been expecting that particular treatise. I'm not being pushy and asking you to answer my page 10 question but an answer of "hot" or "cold" would be pretty cool.

Initiate,

Firstly allow me to express my gratitude for what you have been undertaking here on ATS. Even if your posts here were distorted with attempts to self-gratify, I would admire and respect the persistence, and focus, that you had given them. However, I have interpreted your motives much in the ways that you have expressed them. So, I would like to not only express my gratitude (personally) but would also like to say "thank you" and hope that you allow yourself to read it as having been typed with great sincerity, conscientious focus, and respect.

I have been very pleasantly surprised at the volume of questions you have managed to address and the elegance with which you have been able to do so. I can truly say I have interpreted your words as having been spoken from the mouth of someone wiser than myself (not that I live by an image of myself being overly-wise) and have been gratefully reading your responses and eagerly awaiting the next.

At the risk of adding more to your already gushing-over-the-edge glass of questions to answer, I would feel myself; remiss, for not adding several of my own curiosities to your cup.

If you are able to find the time to address any of my questions, I will categorize them in areas that I feel should be interpreted as most critical. However, I will respect your re-interpretation of which ones may or may be of lesser importance.

1. Questions regarding the struggle of humanity and our ability to "find" ourselves.

A. I feel that the words you have used to describe what the goals of our life experiences should be to resonate with truth. I realize that much of our world, which I will compare to the stage/seating/lobby of a theatre, to be distraction and falsely viewed as supportive in any capacity. I could waste many chars on a metaphor of hierarchical structuring of informational validity within the organizations of a theatre, so let me broadly lump everything of this world that is non-illusory into the category of "behind-the-curtain." I have noticed you associating several questions with the description that they are of no importance for they are related to the illusory side of our experience. My question to you is this; would you consider, while reading my questions (and others), to know I feel that to understand what is behind the curtain/how to get back there, it helps for the layout of the theatre to be described as well. Much of my experience has been governed by my own inability to recognize illusion, and I feel that for the mi-perceiving, sometimes the truth needs to be explained in terms of mis-conceptions. I would compare this method to the works of Daniel Quinn (ishmael, my ishamael, & the story of B) in how new truths were explained through comparisons of old illusions.

B. Do you/your brotherhood feel that a source of readily available energy at no contractual obligation to BM/IllS/power hungry groups would be a valid method in supporting the rise of modern human awareness? I understand that the battle is, largely, a personal one and that an intended lesson can be learned regardless of the circumstance. However, I have a suspicion that situations other than struggle might aid many in feeling that a benevolence surrounds them and they are able to "let it in". I believe that much of the aggression/foulness/repulsion you have encountered within this thread has not to to with ill-will towards yourself or agenda (although some probably has to do with exactly that) but, rather, it is a learned defense mechanism of existing in a world that harbors so much repulsion. We have learned to act horribly by being treated horribly. We have been conditioned to accept our horrible conditions by being shown (falsely) that the world, everywhere, is horrible. I feel it is time for humankind to be able to construct awareness by a means of purified (influenced as-little-as-possible) perceptions. Do you feel this to be a potentially valid perspective and, if so, do you feel that enabling free/non-contractually controllable energy to be found throughout the world would be an appropriate interpretation of that perspective?

(brief for char limits)

C."gimmick"-esque attractions such as telekinesis, boiling water with chi, hovering, lighting fires with chi, etc... have been regarded as non-attainable in our present forms. Is this correct? Would a "gimmick" such as these abilities not perhaps place the power to hear his voice heard? If these are possible, and it would be beneficial for some to learn, how would you recommend one proceed?

D. Is there an inherent-to-us-all means for perceiving truth/filtering lies? If so, how can we tune ourselves into it and develop it further.

I realize my questions could, potentially, be answered in simple "yes" or "no" formats. I am would, humbly, encourage you to elaborate as fully as you have the time/patience for. I have an endless list of questions but will keep them to myself, for now, to help minimize the burden or your endeavor.

Yo Initiate, I'm not sure I'll get another chance to be able to talk to you out of your lessons like this, so mind shedding some light on the topic of senses for me? Once we are able to evolve from this physical plane, what becomes of our senses and how do we not end up disoriented in "nothingness" for lack of a better word? I'm not too worried about it but it would be nice to know what becomes of our smell, touch, feel, taste, etc, so that when the time comes it wont be as awkward, thanks bro.

Originally posted by nimrod20032003

Originally posted by Blasdelezo
reply to post by nimrod20032003

 

TheDude99 asked:
Nimrod, can you stop, please?

Nimrod replied:
Since you ask so nicely, I could certainly be so induced for adequate reason. What problem am I causing? Why do you wish me to stop?

Blasdelezo responds:
The problem is: "You are in the wrong thread"
If you don't resonate, believe or whatever here, leave us alone and start another thread with your ideas; but out of here. You seems a warrior fighting for the truth and there is no war, there is no an absolute truth.

I am sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about.

1) How am I in the wrong thread? From the little I know of this forum, this is LITERALLY "the grey area", the OP indicated he was here to entertain questions, and unlike YOU I am ON TOPIC (with my questions, not with these responses) so . . . ?

2) Why do you say I "don't resonate, believe or whatever", what have I done/said to give you this impression? All I have done is ask questions that I thought were appropriate.

According to the OP, it is not necessary that I BELIEVE - in fact I think it is detrimental to learning, one should try to have an open mind - simply that I suspend (pre)judgment (which I have done as much as is possible for me - this is a VERY difficult thing to REALLY do, although easy to fool yourself into thinking you have done), use that which DOES resonate with me and discard the rest.

I have done my best to comply and I have no idea why you think you are qualified to look inside my psyche and tell me (and others) any different. Do you think you are telepathically reading my thoughts/feelings? If so, you need to recalibrate your spidey senses :-)

3) Again, all I have done is post questions, what about that gives you the impression that I am a "warrior fighting for the truth and there is no war, there is no an absolute truth"?

For the record, I certainly don't mind being a "warrior fighting for truth" - sounds like a noble profession. I think there IS a war going on (with ignorance), and I agree that believing one HAS the ultimate truth (already) is detrimental to alleviating ignorance.

Not only do I not know WHAT you are talking ABOUT, I also don't know WHY you are talking about it - this has nothing to do with the OP's originating topic and can be somewhat distracting, so I probably won't respond to this type of distraction again ("again" because I already responded similarly to another post).

I see no harm in POLITELY allowing the OP to say whatever he wishes to say in whatever manner he wishes to say it because ANYONE that disagrees, doesn't like it, doesn't resonate with any of it, has better things to do, etc ad infinitum, can always just IGNORE THIS THREAD that is in the GRAY AREA.

My dear brother 'nimrod,'

I have greatly enjoyed reading through your many well formulated, well thought out questions; both for their detail, along with your sincere, genuine yearning for clarity and 'attraction.'

You've made neither accusations, nor did you choose to play word games, as unfortunately, other fellow brothers have. You've neither commended me, nor condemned me. And this, dear readers of ATS, was the original purpose of this thread.

I never asked for your commendations. I also do not ask for your condemnations. Slanderous gossip is what your captains pump out into your minds daily, and sadly, it has inflamed your envelopes (mine inclusive). Are we going to engage in an objective debate, or are we going to judge each other?

Some would argue, that I too have judged. Objectively, this is probably correct. I certainly have achieved my fair share of karmic follies throughout the past several days. I simply was too ignorant of what I ought to expect.

However, we can discuss ourselves beyond the completion of this century.

I believe that all the theory cannot articulate example, so I ask those, who have spent the past hours inflaming their envelopes with repulsions disguised as sincerity, to take ample example from users such as user: 'nimrod20032003.'

He neither complimented me, nor admonished me. He merely asked very good, very detailed, very inquisitive questions, and I must be frank, he even taught me an important lesson in 'ignoring pettiness.'

Throughout his posts, I have seen a soul, so determined, so completely focused on his task, that he didn't even pay attention to the petty 'bickering' this forum was attracting. He simply continued asking his questions.

I should have followed this example, and simply continued answering the questions. Today, I have learnt something important from a dear fellow brother, and I shall be learning much more, ere my time here is complete.

Please continue setting a bright example for others, in this dark and dreary world. I truly say thanks to you.

Your fellow brother.