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Dear ATS,

I have been a long-time observer of the goings-on in these forums; but I only recently decided that perhaps it was time (and part of my responsibility in this life), to divulge some proper, useful information in regards to the hidden side of things and the nature of our reality.

Why have I decided to do this?

There are several reasons, of course. I will name a few:

1) I believe the majority of individuals (well meaning and others less well-intentioned) are confused and misled about this complex world -- but this needn't be the case. In fact, it oughtn't be, if I have anything to say about it.

2) I have studied the so-called revelations (two of them) hitherto posted online by self-proclaimed Illuminati insiders (the godlikeproductions thread as well as the 'Hidden Hand' thread posted on ATS in 2008), and I have come to the conclusion that these materials have caused more damage to the minds of the young and impressionable, than should have been allowed. So, with that in mind, you may ask me specifics about what it is you did or didn't understand about that material, and I will clarify the truths/half-truths/lies of that material. I am in a position to elaborate on anything you ask relating to that material, in about 90-95% of cases. In other words, I am in a position to judge about 90-95% of that material.

3) With the advent of a vast stimulation of consciousness in the masses from a variety of different sources (mostly negative), the time is up for a clarification, an elaboration and a solidification of the knowledge of our cosmos. The knowledge exists, but unfortunately, it is scattered, obscured and "hidden in plain sight."

The individual from the GLP thread said it quite well: "there are cores of truth, here and there, floating in a sea of perversions..."

I concur. I am here, however, to try to drain these perversions and only make the truths clear and unambiguous, for all to study.

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It's with these reasons and intentions in mind, among many others, that I attempt to proceed with the followed session(s).

First: A bit about myself. While it's not important who or what I am (note: even if I were a convicted criminal, why should this change the veracity of the information I relay? Think about it) I will provide a few notes as to my person:

I am a human being, like you, although I am less confused about who or what I am than most of you. More importantly, I know what my purpose is and what it is that I am supposed to achieve (especially in this life). My purpose here is to help each and every one of you (and hopefully millions of others on and off the internet) to discover their purpose for their particular incarnation. Ultimately, the purpose of all is the one and the same (a question you might wish to ask me later, which I'd gladly answer).

My background covers the sciences and philosophy (mathematics and logic in particular -- and no, don't bring your math homework to me; I will ignore it), spirituality (this is a vague word, so I will simply call it 'esoterics' -- although this too is vague, as there is a particular branch of Esoterics I specialize in, which I will not discuss right now), and I have also interests in economics, psychology, occult arts (including magic), literature (Tolkien [a surprisingly deep fellow indeed], Bulwer Lytton, Shakespeare) and some peculiar things here and there. This covers both my academic and recreational background. That being said, however, there is only one superior method of inquiry that is the essential one: the esoteric method. Esoterics is superior to science (not to mention philosophy) and even superior to the so-called 'exact' science of mathematics. I am being objective about these matters, and I would appreciate if you could throw out your personal, emotional predilections for the duration of our time together.

I am a busy fellow, so please remember this when you respond. I should be logging into ATS every day for at least 1 hour (perhaps more if you're lucky), so I will make every genuine effort to answer your intelligent and insightful questions as broadly and thoroughly as time and energy permit.

There is absolutely nothing special about me. I am another soul on a long journey, as all of you are, but I may well have trodden the path longer than most of you. There is no competition as to who is the 'superior' or 'older' soul. This thread is not about that. Please remember this. This thread is not about boosting or denigrating egos, but about trying to find clarity amid the confusion together. We are all here to help- and learn from one another.

That being said, my duty here is primarily to provide material for all of you to challenge yourselves; to educate yourselves; to confront yourselves; to better yourselves. I do have a specific goal in mind, and I intend to hold steadfast to it.

I promise that I will go out of my every way, to not give you petty, 'cop-out' responses. For instance, if you ask me: "what is the meaning of life?" I will answer you directly and matter-of-factually. But, I will also answer it according to the level of generality of the question. For instance, the aforementioned question yields an answer pertaining to all souls in our cosmos. But if you ask me "What is my meaning in this life?" I will try to help you find that answer yourself.

I will respond to nearly everything written, unless:

1) It is blatantly stupid/irrelevant (e.g. "were you raped by your father as a child?"; "how large is your penis?" etc.)

2) It is blatantly provocative to my person (please attack the subject matter, not the subject) and serves only to disrupt our conversation

3) It has been properly answered by me in a previous post

Certain answers will command greater and longer responses (a question like "What is the true nature of our reality?" will be answered in far greater detail than "what hit the Pentagon on Sept 11, 2001 and why?")


I will go a little further and say that I may be considered a 'rival' of the Illuminati bloodlines presently wreaking havoc on our lower planes. In other words: I know much (if not more) than what they know, but I do not co-operate with them. In fact, one of my current duties is to disrupt much of their work (part of the reason I am posting this thread). I've certainly had my fair share of unpleasant experiences with them personally, some very powerful (more on this later).

A few final notes. Firstly, regarding David Icke (whom many of you are aware of): I would classify his present-day material (e.g. 'Lion Sleeps no more') as roughly 65% accurate. He is both underestimated and overestimated by many. His heart is in the right place, but unfortunately, he has been deceived (both by himself and by others), and one of my duties is to clarify some of his erroneous expositions. I will explain also why he has erred and what causes humans to err in general; although perhaps a little later. Please note: I do not claim to be an all-knowing sage (but who is?); I do have a vast amount of material that I wish to divulge, but I do not claim expertise in all areas. One of the areas I am far from an expert in (it doesn't particularly interest me) are aliens/alien technology. If you ask me about aliens, I will answer in general terms. Yes, alien life/technology does exist, but they are not particularly important for humanity. I'd also advise you to be very wary of the occult/New Age/fear-mongers.

Let the questions and our time begin!

I'll bite... You seem sincere and down a long road. What is your perspective on Wilcock, Fulfort and others's insistence that the financial world is due a revolution? Would disclosure happen concurrently with the collapse of the central banking ponsi scheme, and are we ready to implement a new politico-economic to replace the old?

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Okay first of all welcome to ATS.

Secondly.....what credentials do you possess that deem yourself 'worthy' of answering important questions that any other folk on here could attempt to answer? Do you have any special contacts for instance?

I have one.
Do you think this is the times for the Wars of 'Revelation', some would say World War III, and others would call it a new Cold War deeply mixed within religion. To clash against each other. Straying away from the familiar by proxy wars.

Welcome to the site OP, nice to here. No offence, but oh my goodness, i am getting a massive feeling of Deja vu here. Older members will know EXACTLY what i mean. But ok, every one deserves a chance, so lets see what youve got.

People, please don't give this joker the time of day. This person is a cultist.
Entirely transparent, they are going to string people along awhile and then recruit them to some place off these boards. Probably taking donations too. Consider these contradictory remarks...

This thread is not about boosting or denigrating egos,

I should be logging into ATS every day for at least 1 hour (perhaps more if you're lucky)

Yet OP tells us we will be lucky if he she decides to entertain us for more than an hour each day.

Fail

Greetings and thanks.
I feel like I have been bearing the Light alone for a while now - not by myself, just alone.
I do appreciate all the protection and assistance, but I would really like to find some friends/allies that I can touch.
How would you recommend that I go about doing this if it is even practical considering my circumstances?
6:00 AM, 5/24/71, Los Angles, CA
Thanks again, and best of fortune to you.

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Do you remember et-man Jay? im sure you do. That debacle makes us all a bit cynical of these type of threads. Ive seen the way this type of discussion goes, and in the case of the et-man thread, things started to get a bit too heavy, People were changing and coming under the influence of the OP. It wasnt a pretty sight. He really had everyone going for quite a well, OP you have a lot to live up to.

You could start by answering the one burning question we all have.

Why are you here. Who is this 'I' you speak of? Who's that?

Why do you claim to not 'stoop' to the ego level yet say things like "I'll be on for an hour a day, or maybe more if you're lucky" as though we should feel your presence is a gift and we should all hang on your words.

Why didn't you just jump straight in and answer some deep philosophical questions? Why didn't you post anything that wasn't simply emancipation of you? Why did you talk about yourself almost obsessively?

And the last thing of all. You said David Icke was 65% correct (as a Christian I'd call BS on that right away, he's about -65% right) yet you didn't mention a single reason as to why. Or fill in the other 35%........ Your post stinks. Really stinks, and you should come clean now as to not disappoint people later, it's unfair and HIGHLY egotistical. There was a post like this not too long ago, and some desperate people feel for it. Criminal really.....

reply to post by Initiate


Hello Initiate and may Peace be upon you.

Hidden_Hand spoke of the concepts of "Group Soul" and "Social Memory Complex" very similar to what is expressed in the "Law of One, Ra Material".

According to my understandings through philosophical, spiritual, and metaphysical self-work, I have come to the conclusion that all of existence is a single "group soul" and a single "social memory complex". All of existence is an interconnected unity of structured energy potential, all of which consists of intelligent desire/will. All is One and One is All.

Would you mind giving your understanding of "group soul" and "social memory complex" concepts?



And as a second point, it is my observation that many influential and powerful people/groups have these metaphysical understandings. If they understand and know that "All is One and One is All", then why do they seek control, oppression, totalitarianism, massive death, suffering, starvation, poverty, and eugenics in order to achieve their goals?



And as a final point regarding this reply, why would clandestine individuals and groups choose to dedicate their entire efforts towards an agenda that they will never see accomplished? The One World Totalitarian agenda is a multi-generational plan. I do not 'see' the motivating factor that would have so many people of influence dedicate their lives to an agenda that has taken centuries to come to fruition.


Peace.

Newer people, please dont bite, hes following the pattern to the tee. Hesn an ordinary person just like us, yet hes an equal of the illuminati bloodlines, and hes going to provide us with answers to the greatest mysteries of of life.... but not yet.
See it all before. Im going now, dont say you werent warned.

Originally posted by PadawanGandalf
I'll bite... You seem sincere and down a long road. What is your perspective on Wilcock, Fulfort and others's insistence that the financial world is due a revolution? Would disclosure happen concurrently with the collapse of the central banking ponsi scheme, and are we ready to implement a new politico-economic to replace the old?

Dear PadawanGandalf. Thank you for your question. A good question, and one which requires some detail.

1) All financial institutions operating in the confines of capitalism/marxism/communism/socialism/etc are going to collapse one way or another within about 50 years -- it is a mathematical certainty. (It may seem like I am covering myself by giving you a huge leeway to play with, but you must understand that part of the 'plan' of the 'Illuminati' is to maintain this monetary system for as long as possible, to give themselves enough time to prepare for their New 'Order' --although this is not necessarily close to what you might think it is. If you are interested, ask me about this New Order, & I shall respond in greater detail in a separate post.)

The struggle for goods/services/wealth accumulation is an excellent tool they employ (excellent for them of course) to keep humans segregated from each other and continuously preoccupied with matters other than the essentials: personal self-development and a service to life (oneself and others concurrently, without one over-burdening the other). It is a separative mechanism, because they know that the ultimate goal is 'union with all.' If they can delay this as long as possible, they maintain their power as long as possible. (Ask me, if you will, in a separate post, why they seek this power, how they justify it and how they maintain to keep it at all costs).

People need to understand that the specifics of the economic system are less relevant than the actual generality of the 2 main debt-generating mechanisms involved:

i) debt creation as a process of inflating the money supply
ii) application of interest to that debt, to perpetuate the cyclical enslavement.

While the debt would never be paid off with an interest-free money supply (without eliminating the money supply itself), the interest serves to ensure it never gets to that point, so that in effect money has to continue to be created to perpetuate debt (and money).

Many economists will justify this of course (they are useful parroting slaves) by arguing that debt is what provides value to the money itself: a promise to one day sell labor to artificially inject the currency with value. This 'promise,' they would argue, is always infused in the money supply and is a means to pay off the initial debt created in its genesis.

The problem with this argument is (while cunning), it is a deceptive philosophy that's been deliberately infused into the curriculum and many well-meaning economists swallow it whole, without question. The truth of the matter is, debt does not provide value to anything, nor does a promise to one day pay it off. The only thing valuable in economics is the human being and the environment in which it thrives and proceeds to inject labor into the commodities it fashions. You, for example, are more valuable economically, if you are healthy, educated, intelligent and are provided with the tools to fulfil your potential. You are both economically and spiritually valuable thus (they are not mutually exclusive). Why do you think our system 'tries' so hard to suppress true economic value? It's to keep you enslaved for as long as possible (ask me why & how in another post, if you will).

There are others who argue that a nation in debt is no big issue, as long as it may function with that indebtedness. You might call this 'functional bankruptcy.' Remember: All nations on Earth are basically, functionally or dysfunctionally bankrupt (more the latter than the former). The United States is just scraping by, along its nose. Australia, for instance, might be classified as functionally bankrupt, whereas something like Uganda or the Philippines is dysfunctionally bankrupt. Bankruptcy is a constant in all areas and facets of life in a given economic system in our present-day world. It serves to not only enslave you, but to perpetuate the slavery for your future incarnations (and your descendants) along with stifling your consciousness development (ask me about consciousness development later).

2) Disclosure is problematic, because the majority of humanity at the present is not as aware and educated as you, for example (and many others on ATS). It is not as simple as 'education.' You need to have reached a certain stage of development (ask me about this later -- that is a huge topic). Most people will die defending the current economic paradigms, because they are institutionalized wage slaves. My posting chars are running out, so I may discuss it more later.

3) Humans aren't yet ready to move on. Sorry, friend.

Welcome, I read your thread with quite some interest.

I would like to ask a question of you as it is something that has been in my mind for a short while.

My religious upbringing taught me that there is both a heaven and hell and from various lectures, workshops I have attended over the years it appears to be a general position that when one dies, one will be met and escorted (hopefully) to heaven etc.

However when I did some research I also read that when one dies one has to negotiate pathways, some very dangerous with devils etc

I am wondering whether you have any ideas or information to discuss on this. I appreciate it may not be your
area of interest and will appear to be a very strange 'mix' for some people, however seeing some of the people you have listed above, I am interested to hear your views.

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Im interested in seeing what has to be said in response to the questions.

Im sure itll be more interesting than reading *another* shock news article with a sensationalized misleading thread title, which seems to be par for the course on ATS now.

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Thank's dear Initiate!

I will read carefully all you say.
I heard a lot of nonsense here, why not listen to you?

Question: What is the best way to know the origin of everything, man's creation, big bang theory, etc without derailing from actual scientific data?

SNC

Originally posted by Just Chris
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Okay first of all welcome to ATS.

Secondly.....what credentials do you possess that deem yourself 'worthy' of answering important questions that any other folk on here could attempt to answer? Do you have any special contacts for instance?

A good question, thank you Just Chris.

My credentials are having studied both the plain- and the 'hidden' side of things, via both my own personal experience with my own consciousness (I have experienced interactions with genuine Black Magicians before, for example -- and no, these aren't the charlatans you see talking about Black Magic on youtube. Black Magic is a huge topic, so please ask me about it some time, and I will gladly respond.) I have also experienced the higher planes in nature and have been in personal communication with trustworthy individuals (not deceivers in the astral/emotional planes [the astral plane consists of 6 molecular and 1 atomic dimensions]), along with having studied materials exposed by higher beings (benevolent as well as malevolent ones) who serve different purposes, both of which have amassed a large understanding of our reality.

Nevertheless, please remember Just Chris: A healthy portion of skepticism is paramount, and you must discover these truths for yourself.

This is not just a nice philosophical phrase, intended to tame the mood; no, it serves as a warning to all: Even if the Cosmic Logos himself (gods are genderless) were to come down and proceed to explain to you in your very low level of relative consciousness what "it is all about," you would be doing yourself a disservice by blindly believing his expositions.

Even if what he says is true, if you do not experience it and live it and truly know it yourself, you're not going to develop your mental capacity (an essential tool necessary to forsake your incarnation cycle on Earth).

(Ask me about why we have to incarnate, if you will, and I shall gladly answer).

A simple example: Say your math teacher explains to you why the derivative of log (x) is 1/x, and you look at his credentials and say: "well, he obtained his PhD from Princeton, surely he knows his craft. I shall take this on board and move on with my life..." you have seriously harmed your mental development. You must take care to not allow any foreign articles into the sacred realm that is your mind, lest you suffer heavy penalties later on (in this case, a lack of fundamental mathematical understanding, which would only be perpetuated later on by further bad habits).

If what I type here resonates with you, you must question it fundamentally. Ask yourself why it must be true (or false). Question it logically, experientially, common sensibly (ask me about common sense in another post, if you will. It is a very important topic, grossly misunderstood by most).

I would advise you to assume that I am simply an impostor. Slowly read your way through it, and try to comprehend it, followed by understanding. (Comprehension and understanding are different concepts -- as are all concepts used in an esoteric sense).

Ask yourself, how what I have written may enrich your life and the lives of others you come into contact with as a consequence of your dissemination of this material. Only then will the true qualifications that I may or may not possess be revealed to you and others.

Remember: I could be a street beggar with zero credentials, who happens to speak great truths. You will only recognize this, once you use your own powers of comprehension and attempt to apply it in your life constructively, to the benefit of all.

Doing so, you serve both yourself and aught else.

One of the great truths in life is: Serving others *is* the same thing as serving yourself. Conversely, by refusing to serve others, you only harm yourself. There is no such thing as self-service in mutual exclusion to service-to-others.

I hope this qualifies somewhat your answer, but remember: the only real qualification will be expressed to you throughout the following days/weeks/(months?) as we progress with our discussion.

Ill ask some questions I guess if nothing more than for some interesting dialogue, things Ive passively wondered about from time to time.

1: It is my sense that the hierarchy of TPTB does not terminate with a ruler or set of rulers living on Earth, and indeed extends unto higher entities either living on this plane of existence off planet, or more likely IMO, entities that are located outside of this plane of existence and have the ability to communicate and direct those who serve them here.

Is either accurate, if so which one, and could you elaborate on the precise structure of that transcendent hierarchy, their goals, and the nature of those individual beings within that hierarchy?

Also, do their servants on this plane/planet do so willingly, or are they a kind of slave, forced into doing the higher ups will, or even are they some kind of will-less biological automaton, simply an organic machine carrying out their programing?

2: The All Seeing Eye... what is it precisely, if more than a metaphor?

3: It seems to me, that humanity might actually be in a phase of spiritual devolution, and NOT in some kind of "ascension" garbage thats been talked about for the last quarter century (or more). It seems from what I can glean, that while there have always been those disconnected from spirit, the ratio of disconnected to connected has soared in recent millennia, centuries, and very markedly in the recent decades does the disparity seem to be widening at an accelerating rate.

It is my opinion that if ones true nature is to be connected to spirit, this connection cannot be broken by religion, persecution, oppression, whatever. In principle it would be akin to the saying "you cant herd cats". Thus IMO its not really a matter of "making" people less spiritual... its simply a matter of the whole reflecting the individual averaged natures of the collective.

Is the above accurate, and if so, what is accounting for the fundamental change in the nature of the human collective? Who are the souls now coming to occupy the human form, and why has this "changing of the guard" so to speak taken place?

Those are the questions I have for now. Hopefully they are at least interesting

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Ultimately, the purpose of all is the one and the same (a question you might wish to ask me later, which I'd gladly answer).

if you ask me "What is my meaning in this life?" I will try to help you find that answer yourself.

Certain answers will command greater and longer responses (a question like "What is the true nature of our reality?" will be answered in far greater detail than "what hit the Pentagon on Sept 11, 2001 and why?")

If you are interested, ask me about this New Order, & I shall respond in greater detail in a separate post.)

Why do you think our system 'tries' so hard to suppress true economic value? It's to keep you enslaved for as long as possible (ask me why & how in another post, if you will).

It serves to not only enslave you, but to perpetuate the slavery for your future incarnations (and your descendants) along with stifling your consciousness development (ask me about consciousness development later).

Black Magic is a huge topic, so please ask me about it some time, and I will gladly respond.)

(Ask me about why we have to incarnate, if you will, and I shall gladly answer).

I'm seeing a pattern here, I wonder if anyone else is?

Sorry mate....I've been here a long time and I've seen your type come and go many many times before....your just another in a long line of attention seekers I fear

I can find out by two military questions.
What is a "Praetorian Guard" from the 80s?
Can you tell me what a "Peabody mission" is?

Anyone who is "in the know" could answer these black ops questions.

Originally posted by spartaocean
I have one.
Do you think this is the times for the Wars of 'Revelation', some would say World War III, and others would call it a new Cold War deeply mixed within religion. To clash against each other. Straying away from the familiar by proxy wars.

Thank you for your question, spartaocean.

It's time, before I continue, to discuss the difference between the Illuminati and an even higher brotherhood, known as "Left-Hand path adepts." What most people don't know, is that there is also such a thing as "Cosmic Left-Hand Path" adepts. Also known as Cosmic Black Magicians.

Some words of warning: Whatever it is you think you do or do not know (what's available in the public domain), a stern caution is advised. Much of the material you see available is written by individuals, who are not particularly in the know.

As an example: You might stumble across the works of Satanists, titled "Satanism" or "Black Magic" or "Lords of the Left Hand Path" etc.

Much of this has some elements of truth, but the authors are themselves largely deceived. If you wish to know how & why they are deceived, you must ask, and I shall gladly answer.

For now, I will quickly state: Levels of deception are far more broad and intricate than even the so-called Illuminati insiders revealed. The Hidden Hand seemed to come close, but he didn't make it explicitly clear how deceptions come about (you can be self-deceived, without opening a single book or listening to a single word somebody tells you). Just by sitting down and thinking about an issue can generate large portions of unwitting 'self' deception. However, much of this deception comes from beyond you, by external telepathic influences from astral entities, who usually have your worst interests in mind. In many cases it may be some form of black magic, but sometimes it can be a discarnate human being (in between incarnations) who might have some access to your envelopes (called an aura in New Age vernacular) depending on your own personal sensitivity.

For example, a more sensitive and perhaps evolved soul might have loosened its aura from its physical (and physical etheric) constitution (many times unwittingly, although a genuine psychic might do it deliberately, & lend its envelope(s) temporarily to an emotional being/elemental), to the extent that it is more readily accessed by astral (from now on emotional) wildlife. The emotional plane is a rich and complex world littered with life. In fact, you might be surprised to learn that it is a far richer world in life than the one you currently are conscious in (the physical world: the lowest material world in our cosmos! Yes, the entire cosmos is material! Traditional philosophy has been wrestling with pseudo-problems since its inception by the sophists, who argued that there is a matter-immaterial dichotomy to come to terms with. Wrong.)

Anyway, without straying off-topic too far (off-topic is anything that hasn't yet been asked by you, but please ask away!) I wish to simply state, once & for all, that the so-called Illuminati bloodlines are themselves tools in a larger scheme. In other words, the Hidden Hand chap, that came here before me, was himself largely a tool (a very intelligent, very well-informed and in many cases correct tool nonetheless) used for ulterior motives, which I would gladly expound in a future post, if the question is asked.

I assert all this, because I wish to state that the Illuminati don't have nearly as much power as some are making them out to have. In fact, they are under very efficient and effective surveillance by my superior brethren; although they have some leeway in the physical and emotional worlds (but not in the mental world). Ask me, if you will, about these issues, and I shall gladly respond.

So, from now on, when we discuss "them" (as opposed to "us"), I will refer to them as:

a) Illuminati (lowest black magicians/agents/henchmen depending on their illumined rank) = ILLS
b) Black Magicians (of genuinely higher rank and of a different order than the Illuminati) = BMs
c) Cosmic Black Magicians (the highest rank in our cosmos and strictly speaking, demi-gods themselves. Yes, evil gods do exist, unfortunately, which is why our planet is so powerfully ensnared. It takes a lot more than just a few bloodlines to control mankind. Ponder on this, if you will.) = CBMs

Now, as to your question:

1) Yes, we are in a very difficult, transitional period right now. The general energy levels of the accumulative consciousness of our planet Terra is right in-between the 'attractive' phase and the 'repulsive' phase. It has been so for the past 60 years or so (since WW2). In fact, WW2 was a very important test for mankind, which can be allocated a "PASS" mark. Unfortunately, WW2 was also the beginning. The BMs cannot destroy Terra on their own. They are not powerful enough. They can, however, induce humanity to destroy it for them.

To be continued