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ETA: Who made it your job to make sure THE GRAY AREA is free of gullible fools? It's the frickin' GRAY AREA! It was MADE for this kind of discussion, as a catch-all for the gullible fools you're so scared of besmirching the character of your professedly-beloved ATS!
Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by seamus
Who made you a moderator?
Good grief - it's not me that's angry or bitter.......the opposite is true. I have not posted since page 20 of this thread other than in reply to a post directed at me. If you want me out of the discussion simply stop posting replies to me and I will be gone....like magic
edit on 5-6-2013 by christina-66 because: (no reason given)
I just want to throw this in there... Positive and negative are emotionally-charged words. Separative and unitive are, IMO, better functional replacements for neg. and pos. That said, the lion starving is neither separative or unitive. It just is. It is the lion's experience to die that day. Why charge it with emotion? The lion surely isn't feeling sorry for itself. It just wants to live (I'll add here, getting what you want is neither separative or unitive), and when the food is gone, it stops living and goes to its next life. Just like you.
Originally posted by subtopia
reply to post by AwakeWeAre
Awakeweare
Negative energy feeds the beast. Explains how we got into this situation
Positive energy starves the beast. Explains how we get out of this situation
This goes against your factual reality. Is it positive for the lion to starve when its prey escapes, which is a positive for the prey.
You are mistaken. If you enlarge your perspective enough, you will see that ALL serves the ends of the Creator of this cosmos. Therefore, ALL is unitive (since reunion of its facets with itself is the disclosed 'end goal' of this universal experience). Remember, unitive=non-emotionally-charged version of 'positive'.
Balance disengages the beast from continually escalating.
No human can continually stay in a positive state of mind without rejecting the reality they exist in,
That is true, for those who refuse to look past their own emotional programming. But just because it's conditionally impossible, doesn't mean it's impossible. And just because it's conditionally 'reality' doesn't mean it is ultimately reality.
.the reality of positive thinking is that it cannot be sustained and when it eventually fails the person or the group who justifiably instigate it have little capacity to re-balance again from the negative state they eventually realize they are in, which is often sadly too late for many, ie suicide, mass murder, habitual self abuse through some form of drug or violent act etc, etc
It happened to me. But I'm a survivor, and I KNOW that every experience we have is necessary to integrate. It's our job to carry it Home, to the creator (Logos) of this universe eventually.
This is happening to children all around the world where there parents protect them to the point where they never learn how to reasonably respond loss in any form.
Yes there are similarities, but I knew/sensed HH was not being fully-above-board from his first post. Nevertheless, he did provide a lot of corroborating information for conclusions I had come to about my own experiences and experiments. I don't get the same kind of feeling with this guy. Yes, he's guarded, but to me it seems for a different reason. And did I mention, this is the Gray Area?
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by seamus
ETA: Who made it your job to make sure THE GRAY AREA is free of gullible fools? It's the frickin' GRAY AREA! It was MADE for this kind of discussion, as a catch-all for the gullible fools you're so scared of besmirching the character of your professedly-beloved ATS!
Take a look at THIS THREAD, Seamus. Sorry if someone made this comparison already but doesn’t this OP remind you of Hidden-Hand from 2008?
Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by kennyb72
I've already stated that my own insights are personal to me and to me alone. That's because we are all, thankfully, unique.
I didn't look up experiential gnosticism on Wiki as you suggest. I had a very real life changing experience (initiated by trauma) that gave me a new perspective and a new understanding of my existence and raison d'etre that modern language is incapable of imparting (hence experiential).
But seriously, I don't need five solid pages of debunkers charging into the GREY AREA (duh) to tell me that this is FAKE FAKE FAKE! ZOMG! You better not listen to this stuff it will rot your brain! Yadda, yadda, yadda! Please! I'm an adult!
Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by EviLCHiMP
Good grief - it's not me that's angry or bitter.......the opposite is true. I have not posted since page 20 of this thread other than in reply to a post directed at me. If you want me out of the discussion simply stop posting replies to me and I will be gone....like magic
And since then three posts on this page have been directed at me. What is that, some weird kind of masochism?
I don’t know about any of you but I have this whole defence mechanism thing going on...and it doesn’t come from nowhere....it comes from provocation. Call me spiritually under developed if you care to.
I enjoy discussion – in particular with those who have opposing views. I enjoy being shown something new and novel – I enjoy changing my mind. My views are not fixed or set in stone but so far not one person on this thread has come at me with any kind of reasoned argument – what I have been dealing with in an emotive onslaught of oppressive vitriol.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by seamus
ETA: Who made it your job to make sure THE GRAY AREA is free of gullible fools? It's the frickin' GRAY AREA! It was MADE for this kind of discussion, as a catch-all for the gullible fools you're so scared of besmirching the character of your professedly-beloved ATS!
Take a look at THIS THREAD, Seamus. Sorry if someone made this comparison already but doesn’t this OP remind you of Hidden-Hand from 2008?
Originally posted by PhyberDragon1
If I may, I'd like to point out an error I see taking place. I am schizophrenic and I like to point that out so that people have a solid understanding that I may be delusional when I speak.
...anything that anyone says is subject to scrutiny, dissent and ridicule whether they like it or not. However...people are not challenging the material...but rather, the OP personally, the viewership and things that have no bearing on the material in the OP. And, they (the OP and the viewership) are in turn not challenging the people's challenges to the material, but, commenting about the people or words which have nothing to do with challenging the material in the OP. ...
...I am only interested in the OP and anything that relates to the OP and do not care for anything else that has nothing to do with the OP. I offer my two cents, now, in a hope to get the thread back on track and that is the only relevance my comment has to this topic, but, as this has nothing to do with the OP itself, there is nothing in it to be challenged that has any relevance to the OP, and so, I will not be responding to any comments or replies about what I write here as I feel they would be a further waste of space on this thread.
...For example. I have asked whether this knowledge could have been obtained from "highly intelligent, but, psychotic individuals?" My question, however, is a challenge to the information's source and not to the OP or his interpretations of the material. I did question the sanity of the OP which has no bearing on the information, itself.
Originally posted by Initiate
But you felt confronted nonetheless. It's as if you are so used to the admixture of toxic vibrations permeating your souls, that your emotional envelopes had to conjure further such elemental thought forms, as if to maintain a 'continuity' of existence in your present states of being. These, you gave ample manifest to, within this thread.
How it pains me, that the evil captains of our world have managed to fester you so thoroughly with their poisonous elementals, that it's almost as if you are struggling for the survival of your very incarnated egos!
And I am just a mere human!
I'm not going to even read what you posted. What I'm going to do is point out how strange it is with how much you are lurking this thread. I reply to you and, based on the extent of what you typed, you replied almost if not INSTANTLY. Just ponder on that a bit. Are you seriously that obsessed with this thread or do you have an agenda for being here? You can say what you will but your actions will always speak the truth.