Islamic Cleric Decrees Rape is OK during Syrian War

The pointy finger points both ways
let me give some muslim bashers a little taste of that the finger

Syrian rebels supported by America accused of gang-raping female civilians, cannibalism

americanfreepress.net...
cannibalism....

oh look
from the above link:

Obama said he was “outraged” after Lt. Col. Jeffrey Krusinski, an Air Force officer who led the branch’s Sexual Assault Prevention and Response unit, was arrested for sexual assault—even though an estimated 26K sexual assaults in the armed services were covered up last year—a 35% increase in the past two years of his presidency. So perhaps Obama can claim ignorance of the mass rapes, tortures and murders he pays for with our money—.

the hypocracy around here really stinks some days
but hey, its your money paying for this party

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Danbones

 

Ihave to ask.
Does this mean that the Imam (we have already learned that Imams are not holy men, and do not represent Islam... in this thread) is a CIA agent?

There you go, the US is to blame for Islam.

I wonder if Muhummad was a CIA agent?

edit on 2-6-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

just for you BG (and the people who starred your reply )

This comes even after the North African news service Magharebia—sponsored by the U.S. Africa Command—interviewed the head of the Tunisian League for Human Rights, Balkis Mechri-Allagui, about Syria, claiming that CIA and Mossad-backed clerics have gone so far as to bless the rape of women and children who don’t support rebels fighting the Syrian government.

americanfreepress.net...

Not much difference between raping a chaste woman and murder.

He should specifically state this, this cleric.

It doesn't matter whether a chaste woman is Sunni or Shiite.

Chaste women belong to God regardless of their ethnicity, color, or religious sect.

Originally posted by buster2010
And people still want to support the terrorist I mean rebels.

Little Johnnie McCain does. He's never met a war he didn't like. Besides, he's confident that America can put weapons into the hands of the "right" rebels.

So yeah, Islam is a 'peaceful' religion, my eye
This is an EVIL religion, and has no place on this earth.

For all of those about to flame me and tell me this is an extremist and not the norm, WHY ISNT THE 'NORM' CONDEMNING THIS AND THE OTHER EXTREMISTS???

Originally posted by HomerinNC
So yeah, Islam is a 'peaceful' religion, my eye
This is an EVIL religion, and has no place on this earth.

For all of those about to flame me and tell me this is an extremist and not the norm, WHY ISNT THE 'NORM' CONDEMNING THIS AND THE OTHER EXTREMISTS???

Well, in all fairness for a real and honest answer? They'll be killed faster than we would as infidels if they did stick their moderate heads up too far. Not being Muslim enough can quite literally be worse than being a non-believer to the radicals, like some of the Wahhabi types.

It's an explanation, not an excuse because if they didn't remain silent for those reasons, those reasons may just stop being valid altogether. Control is about fear more than function and fear is what the Jihadis have down cold for instilling in the populations they function within.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Just sad.

Religious leaders have to rise above this type of nonsense, less they have a flock justifying it, in the name of God. You wonder why those in the West have their misconceptions about the Islamic faith.


S&F

Rape and war are synonymous. The problem is that religion makes rape, and sex out of wedlock, a no-no. When that happens, you can always count on some assclown to come along and say, "IT'Z KEWL GOIYZ I SPOKE 2 GAWD AND HE SED IT'Z KEWL BUT ONLY IF WE RAPE THE WOMANZ DAT AREN'T IN OUR OWN RELIGOOSE SECT HEH HEH"

Ain't god great?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


It's almost like the power that the Catholic church had leading up to the 20th century has been transferred to contemporary Islam in the Middle East. They bend the will of their god to suit their needs. Heretics will burn.

However civilised we think ourselves, we are only as civilised as the lowest of the low behaves.

When this behaviour is condoned and encouraged by a religious man, regardless of what religion, it is a sad and shameful day for humanity.

I expect this man has a wife and I wonder how he would feel were his words to encourage a retribution against her or his female family members.

Within his own religion doesn't anyone stand up to men like this?

I thought they were always ok with rape, considering how when a child gets raped over there, they stone the child to death instead of the rapist.


Why did he need to make a Decree?

Originally posted by Lysergic
I thought they were always ok with rape, considering how when a child gets raped over there, they stone the child to death instead of the rapist.


Why did he need to make a Decree?

The whole decree thing is nothing more than an order, like a fatwa, to rape as form of war...

Same orders are given in US (maybe using a different psychology/means but the ends are the same), in the times of ancients and today, such as Congo, etc.,

The root is patriarchy/misogyny, rape is a war tool/Loot and demonization of females, as whores, etc, the enemies whore, so to speak, as some kind of twisted justification to transfer any king of moral Guilt, also why the decree...and emphasis on non Sunni women, etc., and vice versa, etc.

You are correct, they rape their own, hence the ROOT, misogyny and why the whole oh they rape but our Nigel's don't,

Is pure kaka and female DENIAL

The ONLY thing that will EVER EVER EVER end rape

Is when FEMALES get FED UP and say, ENOUGH FORGIVING

And START KILLING

When they DO THAT

The rapes will stop.

But NOT until then...

Instead, I'll take Congo as example...we have a Holocaust level of women of ALL ages being raped and mutilated in the most barbaric ways...but WHAT happens, they farm and feed the very bastards who raped them,

And when war ends, they remarry and bear children, heal communities, etc and go on, THAT'S where females have gone terribly wrong,

One, they should BURN tose crops and let them raping vermin starve to death, then, they should Nnihilate every single one but maybe two, keep them for stud purposes only...IF that. And they should Do so in such a horrific way that the terror is known worldwide, what Happens to men who rape females who Had no political power or say so over Any of the causes of war...and in Congo most are illiterate, so


Once the men are hanging on poles after beng skinned alive, slowly...let the world know. The FURIES are awake, and Medusa ain't taking it no more...

Sounds crazy? You bet...but see, That's just it, it ISN'T crazy, oh no, what's CRAZY is that 2013 Females of the world are Still bedding with the very Nigel's that would rape and destroy them, THAT'S CRAZY.

Seriously, the females, rather than do all the whole singing and crying rallies in Congo via Vagina Monologues bunk...which ONLY will serve to ASSIST the very vermin who Destroyed them, once war is over...what they Should be doing, is making their Own Female Army...an Army of REVENGE

And never, NEVER resting, till each raping pig head, is on a Pole, Vietcong style. And make Damn sure, they Suffer and BEG for death.

THAT

Will end the Rape problem.

Even More insane, is for WOMEN to Think that the solution to rape and war rape is pleading with ole master raping brother to fix it for them or for others...with this naive insulation bunk...that it's ONLY "those" evil Nigel's over yonder who rape, etc.,

Nah, it's a GLOBAL problem, they just sugarcoat it under Pharasees robes and Pharoah robes of false piousness here, that's all...

Or blame victims, because hey hey if women can do That, well then,

Won't ever happen to our precious little pious virginal asses, why cuzz we so pure, not like those "whores" of this group and that who, well ya Know, pst kind of deserve it (whisper whisper)

BY the time REALITY hits, again I'll use the Congo as an example, when ALL females see that it matters not. WHO SHE IS, HER AGE, TRIBE, ECONOMIC STATUS, CLASS! RELIGION, her ONLY CRIME

Is being born with a Vagina, therefore she's demon...and what's done to her regardless of not ever having done anything to the raper...matters not,

When Females GET THAT, it's usually too late, the damage for generations is done and possibly an entire Generation of females is completely gone,

Which IS the end to Genocidal RAPE as TOOL,

But psychologically it goes even deeper than that, it is the total ERASURE of all things WOMB, that have the Ability to not only Create LIFE

But NOURISH that LIFE.

SHE is hated, and a target for annihilation, not just in WAR time either,

But Every day, in Peace time...she is in danger of annihilation ONLY for this reason.

But see Women want to Deny this because to Face it, is hell, but to End it, women MUST face it, and face the ones,

Who want her Dead.

Most won't do that, because to do that, they have to see the murderer, who is often, the very own Nigel, right next to her...

The women in the Congo know this All too well. Same for women in Bosnia, those weren't Strangers from far away lands,

Those rapists were Neighbors...

Men they knew...so, point being, yes the Cleric is horrid,

But it's WOMEN

Who feed it. Muslim, Christian, Athiest, you name it, it does not matter, it's Females, who fuel it by NOT facing it head on and then choosing to END IT, not by whining, not by pleading, not by hiding, but by doing what ALL OTHER FEMALE MAMMALS DO

Kill.

Let a male bear mess with a female bear, she'll destroy him...same with lioness, ONLY the FEMAE HUMAN, have been MIND COLONIZED and BRAINWASHED to go Against her instinct for self preservation,

Including Revenge. Not the petty king mind you, the Real kind...MEN WAR

Because MEN are in touch with their Humanity

Women have had it robbed from them for far too long, oh they'll Fight for MEN and Men's WARS, just not their Own.

When Females, fight for FEMALES

Watch out, That's when, things will change, but not until then...until then, we will see more clerics and porn jerks and pastors and commanders decree Rape as some glorious thing knowing full well the Victims will feed, clothe and bear their children AFTER the fact

When they Find out that One day, the Victims Don't forget, and slaughter them in RETRIBUTION,

That, will be a new dimension. The Amazons will have risen, so to speak...as for the meaning of this, well, the women in India ARE Waking up, the Pink Gang,

And That's, what NEEDS to happen worldwide. When it does, those clerics want be so cocky with their rape decrees, nor will anyone else for that matter. But it's going to Have to be Women,

Who do something to change this...ole Nigel

Flat doesn't care.

Maybe someone should rape him since he seems to be ok with it!

Originally posted by Tuttle
I dunno man, but the West seems to have fairly pandemic levels of rape every year, I guess we are just kinda sick that way. Sure there is plenty profiling done by western law enforcement that gives a pretty good explanation as to the motivations behind it in western society.

Even against Children America has 4 times the amount of recorded levels as India. Its very frighting, It just seems to be a part of culture now I guess.

[underlined and bolded by me for emphasis.]

Your comment assumes that the same amount of time and resources are put into investigating rape and charging the culprits in all areas of the world. This is NOT the case. Especially in countries with large Muslim populations, cultural attitudes towards sexual assault are a lot different than from Western countries.

Originally posted by votan
so basically you are saying that non mass rapes caused by american soldiers is okay but Mass rapes are not and the muslims are wrecking the curve by going from single rapes to mass rapes.

Absurd drivel. Did you actually read the opening post? Doesn't look like it. I CLEARLY stated that it is very sad that a religious leader ... be it Catholic or Protestant or Muslim ... would lead people to do such evil. The religious leader called for people to do evil to others who don't believe like he does. That's sick.

REALLYY WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

Not a darn thing. But considering how you totally twisted what I posted .. I'd say that next time you ask what is wrong with someone, you should look in the mirror and ask it. :shk:

Originally posted by HomerinNC
For all of those about to flame me and tell me this is an extremist and not the norm, WHY ISNT THE 'NORM' CONDEMNING THIS AND THE OTHER EXTREMISTS???

Funny you should mention that -
ATS Thread by Moderator AshleyD - The Social Taboo of Criticizing Radical Islam
She wrote it five years ago. But sadly, it is still appropriate for what is going on here today.

I start a thread about a muslim cleric who calls for rape ... and suddenly I'm supposedly the evil one and not the actual cleric who is calling for raping women. It's insane.

reply to post by Danbones

I do not support US intervention in Syria.

Islam is a misogynistic religion.
I believe that there are 'radical' Imams out there that are not CIA affiliated.

I can find websites that say that we are being farmed by reptilians for meat.

Nice to see that the Muslims have their own Fred Phelps. This guy has some pretty bonkers ideas.

Originally posted by Kgnow
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

Hello FlyersFan.

The problem goes far beyond imams, sheikhs, or religious leaders. It is actually allah and the Qur'an that sanctifies rape:

""And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." [Qur'an 4:24]


It is actually allah, the Qur'an, and Muhammad that has made lawful the keeping of slaves and the forceful rape of those slaves. This edict alone illustrates Islam's sexists, tyrannical, and oppressive ideology.

Peace.

Qur'an 4:24
Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All- knowing, All-wise.

The term "right hand possess" means a slave. A muslim is also forbidden to make another muslim a slave. It doesn't matter what the cleric says, it just seems to interest islam haters more and i am so moved by their concern that muslim women are being raped by rebels backed by western powers, when a rebel can eat a heart of a dead man, raping almost feels polite in comparison!
Whatever the agenda of this thread, what must be kept in mind that every one claiming to be a muslim does not represent islam.
Also westerners distance themselves from the actions of their governments while the truth is the events in syria have everything to do with western interests and nothing to do with muslims in syria. What should also be known that once syria and iran are taken care of the attention will shift back home, its syrian muslims and Iran standing between americans and martial law!
now who wants Syria and Iran to fall in the hands of the western powers???