Baltic Sea update: Piece of the object is metal

Originally posted by MrWendal
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Dig deep in the UFO forums here on ATS. There were several threads about it and I believe one of them had "millinium falcon" in the title.

In any event, what Butcherguy is saying is 100% accurate. I remember the threads very well cause at first it WAS interesting..... until it started getting debunked.

Official info was not about a UFO.

Originally posted by interupt42

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Remember that we were told originally that the Baltic Sea 'anomaly' was a UFO, heck they had pics that looked just like the Millenium Falcon!

I kept up all the way through and I do not recall anyone saying "this is a UFO".

Here is the trailer selling the UFO angle. Goto :22 mark
www.youtube.com...

My initial reaction was hey guys here we have a UFO

Then they click up the dramatic music and leave it at that.




Spoiler alert, the documentary is going to be 1 hour and 45 minutes of what if scenarios filled with more questions and at the last 15 minutes depending on which multiverse you live in
A. Further testing required ( we don't want you to realize its a rock).
B. Its a rock
C. The mother-load, the results came back inconclusive (Out of 400 scientist they found that one guy/gal who got an inconclusive result ). translation we ain't done milking the cow

Seriously, if they knew they had a UFO would a documentary be required for them to get their money back or for disclosure?

edit on 21-5-2013 by interupt42 because: (no reason given)

I thought they made it very clear they did not regard the object as a UFO.

Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by Char-Lee

I kept up all the way through and I do not recall anyone saying "this is a UFO".

The media sure used the term.

www.foxnews.com...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

www.examiner.com...

news.discovery.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.disclose.tv...

www.ufodigest.com...

www.nbcnews.com...

You will notice words such as LIKE and quotation marks around UFO. The guys who found it clearly said they did not know what it was but did not believe it was a UFO. What was said on ATS and elsewhere is not really the point.

They were probably hopeful that it was something like a UFO or at least interesting compared to rocks in and odd shape.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by interupt42

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Remember that we were told originally that the Baltic Sea 'anomaly' was a UFO, heck they had pics that looked just like the Millenium Falcon!

I kept up all the way through and I do not recall anyone saying "this is a UFO".

Here is the trailer selling the UFO angle. Goto :22 mark
www.youtube.com...

My initial reaction was hey guys here we have a UFO

Then they click up the dramatic music and leave it at that.




Spoiler alert, the documentary is going to be 1 hour and 45 minutes of what if scenarios filled with more questions and at the last 15 minutes depending on which multiverse you live in
A. Further testing required ( we don't want you to realize its a rock).
B. Its a rock
C. The mother-load, the results came back inconclusive (Out of 400 scientist they found that one guy/gal who got an inconclusive result ). translation we ain't done milking the cow

Seriously, if they knew they had a UFO would a documentary be required for them to get their money back or for disclosure?

edit on 21-5-2013 by interupt42 because: (no reason given)

I thought they made it very clear they did not regard the object as a UFO.

Not that I have seen. I have read articles where the leader of the expedition has gone as far as saying that he couldn't discount it being a UFO. Other times he mentioned that it COULD ALSO be some ancient artefact or even some Nazi submarine base.

Basically , he is being vague and misleading enough to get people interested to watch the documentary . He is also purposely using terminology that will allow him to back talk without any consequences. In other words he will say I never said that it was ___.

IMO I think they initially might have thought that they found something exciting even perhaps a real Alien ship at one time. Then their curiosity got the better of them and they got investors to give them the money to investigate. Then they found rocks. Investor became not to happy with the money they wasted and decided to capitalize on the attention this got and create a documentary to recover the money.

I also don't think the captain himself likes putting the UFO spin on it but I think he is in debt to his investors and hasn't got much of a choice. I saw couple of interviews with him and that is what I got of it.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
in order to rust, iron needs to be exposed to oxygen (the 'ox' in oxide),
so underwater it shouldn't rust, but might still deteriorate, depending on alloy and conditions.

Iron steel, will still rust, will still rust in the desert, just differing types of rust.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by Char-Lee

I kept up all the way through and I do not recall anyone saying "this is a UFO".

The media sure used the term.

www.foxnews.com...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

www.examiner.com...

news.discovery.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

www.disclose.tv...

www.ufodigest.com...

www.nbcnews.com...

You will notice words such as LIKE and quotation marks around UFO. The guys who found it clearly said they did not know what it was but did not believe it was a UFO. What was said on ATS and elsewhere is not really the point.

They were probably hopeful that it was something like a UFO or at least interesting compared to rocks in and odd shape.

That's as I recall it, the Team did not confirm it as a UFO, It was media that helped it along that direction.

I wonder if that is an old hydrothermal vent dome?

Originally posted by rickymouse
I wonder if that is an old hydrothermal vent dome?

It makes just as much sense as other theories that have been floated.
It has the goethite going for it, anyway.

reply to post by Themaninwhite


Quite interesting, since:

1) There is no volcanic activity in the area, no hydrothermal activity either - nothing alike what so ever
2) The area was under 1-2 km ice still 10,000 years ago
3) The deposits above the formation were lava - from Atlantic area

This just gets more and more elusive.

Could it be, this is some sort of deposit which the ice sheet moved to the area, during very long period? So, that the original piece was formed somewhere else, where volcanic activity does exist, but which the movement of ice sheet slowly transported to the current area. With the melting ice, the piece (or the two pieces actually) were then "deposited" where they lie today.

OMG!! They found rust!!!

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
OMG are they still trying to flog the life from that long dead horse?

should read :

Baltic Sea update: Ocean X wants more gullible people to give them more money so they can swim around in expensive underwater gear because it beats getting a real job.

Where do you apply for this job? Sign me up!!

reply to post by deckdel


The Baltic Shield is rich in iron deposits and has experienced much glacial activity and continental ice sheet movement.

reply to post by draknoir2


What's interesting is that alien metal is detectable under water but not in the air. Alien metal is very elusive stuff. That's why its so hard to find

reply to post by Themaninwhite


Themaninwhite thanks for the update. 1 feels if there is no global Marine/Naval "public" response to it then it has been surveyed and any importances removed... If so then anything left (if not detected) would be basic. Still an interesting



OP topic

NAMASTE*******

reply to post by interupt42

couldn't discount it being a UFO. Other times he mentioned that it COULD ALSO be some ancient artefact or even some Nazi submarine base.

There ya go...he didn't say it was a UFO.

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by interupt42

 

couldn't discount it being a UFO. Other times he mentioned that it COULD ALSO be some ancient artefact or even some Nazi submarine base.

There ya go...he didn't say it was a UFO.

you are.missing the point perhaps on purpose. they are purposely misleading the public and allowing for wild claims to flourish. Why even mention UFO in their advertisement trailer?

they are simply getting the media to do their.dirty work for.them by droping enough vague accusations for them to roll with it. they need the hype and they are purposely creating the hype because.tbey have nothing to disclose

reply to post by Themaninwhite


Why hasn't anyone raised the point that this could just be a piece of ship debris that has been there for years?

I followed this case closely for a while but quit on it for a few reasons but not least because:

A. The research team are milking this find for every penny they can.

B. If there was anything "amazing" about this find, it would've been found before now.

A very pointless and distracting story indeed.

reply to post by interupt42


"We're not saying it's a UFO... we're just saying."

reply to post by Themaninwhite


The team who undertook the investigation of this rock formation ( For that is all it is..) have no doubt invested a lot of time and money in this project, and have to make it pay !

Against all odds I would say, grasping at straws now, to encourage public interest in a story that never was...

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
in order to rust, iron needs to be exposed to oxygen (the 'ox' in oxide),
so underwater it shouldn't rust, but might still deteriorate, depending on alloy and conditions.

How in the Hell did you Extrapolate that Conclusion.

H2O Means that there is Oxygen Molecules in Water.

So, .. . Iron in Water is Going to Rust. Period.

Have you ever seen an old shipwreck's cannons after it is been submerged for a hundred years?