Air Force Publications from 2000

So I've been thinking long and hard about this, whether to put this out there or not, and I've decided to go ahead and do it, WITHIN LIMITS. As on another thread I had, these limits are inviolable, and if you guys don't like that, I'm sorry, but I have my own conscience to deal with here.

Last night, I received an anonymous mail containing EVERY flight training manual and aircrew requirements manual for USAF aircraft in inventory in 2000. It also contained a bunch of other publications, but most of those are rules and regulations type things that have very little interest to most people.

Instead of just putting them out there willy nilly, I'm willing to do requests. I MAY edit the files after going through them if I see something that I feel shouldn't be thrown out there. I may also decline to upload some files, on the basis of the aircraft involved. If I don't put it up, then I am sorry, but like I said, I have to deal with this in my own way, and this isn't really something that drops into a normal persons lap.

With that in mind, and the rules in place.....ask away.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Anonymous mail? Hm, I'm not a web geek but I think no mail can totally be anonymous. They all come from an IP address or something.

reply to post by Zaphod58


I'd be curious to see the requirements for our bomber fleet.
2nd.

reply to post by peter_kandra


I'd be curious to know more period. But above information is the source.

reply to post by swanne


Oh, there are identifiers in it, don't get me wrong. However it's not an address that I know, and it had no names attached to it that I could easily find. I'm also not going to sit and dig into who sent it, as I'm way too busy going through it right now.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Hm, how long is the thing?

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by swanne

 

Oh, there are identifiers in it, don't get me wrong. However it's not an address that I know, and it had no names attached to it that I could easily find. I'm also not going to sit and dig into who sent it, as I'm way too busy going through it right now.

if I were you, I would sit on it, maybe someone is testing you, maybe not, but, we have a lot of people on this site, who you have no idea where they are from, or their intentions...stay frosty, my friend.

reply to post by jimmyx


I tend to agree. It seems too good to be true. Who seriously sends all that data through e-mail, free of charge, just "take it I'm a generous person"? Whoever sent this obviously had a purpose behind his action, a purpose which eludes us. But it had a purpose. It may be a trap.

reply to post by peter_kandra


Aircrew training, or flight manual?

reply to post by swanne


I have my idea of people that would have this information, as well as why they would send it to me. It's not a test, nor is there an agenda. It has to be one of my contacts, I simply choose at this point not to try to find out who sent it. They are real flight manuals, and there are several that I WILL NOT put on the net, period. The less sensitive aircraft I will put out there, such as the C-130, etc. The more sensitive aircraft, sorry, those stay with me, and I will sit on them.

reply to post by swanne


The email? It was huge. It's literally every flight manual for every type of plane in the inventory. There are several files for every type. The biggest problem is that they aren't named in the folder name so I have to go through and open each one to find the ones I'm looking for.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Oh, a contact of yours. Okay, then it's not a trap or test... well do you trust that contact? I admit I'm very curious.

reply to post by swanne


To date all of my contacts (at least the ones that I'm still talking to) have panned out and been reliable with their information. I have no idea which one sent this, or why they sent it, and I have no intention of trying to find out. If they choose to remain anonymous then I respect that choice. They have a lot to lose if this turns out to be something frowned upon. That being said, none of these are marked classified or secret (if they were, then I sure as hell wouldn't be bringing the up and putting them here).

Much as i find the subject interesting I would recommend you don't do this.

en.wikipedia.org...

Something you don't regard as 'sensitive' can still get you prosecuted. I would not be disclosing any military flight manuals on the internet.

Apologies if its teaching to suck eggs.

This is not expected to be a popular post. Abuse accepted in advance.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Training. Those insanely long missions must come with unique training requirements.
When I lived in NJ, I would go to the air shows at McGuire AFB every time they had them. It was great going into a B-52 and seeing the B-1 up close. It looks as intimidating in person as it does in flight.

Originally posted by swanne
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

Anonymous mail? Hm, I'm not a web geek but I think no mail can totally be anonymous. They all come from an IP address or something.

Not so...I can take a clean unidentifiable laptop go sit in the parking lot of McDonalds that has free wifi...setup a bogus email account and go to town with out being able to be traced...I can also sit in the same parking lot with a wireless sniffer looking at all wireless traffic and filter for "password or porn pics" and start digging into your system...I wont go into how to do that..but my point is you still can be quite anonymous with a little care...now you can get busted if they "Big Brother/police" can get camera footage of the parking lot and then start running plate numbers...so always try to be aware of cameras way too many of them out there...

More on topic...it would be interesting to see something form a plane that was once classified and now retired like the SR71

reply to post by justwokeup


My understanding is that if a civilian gets their hands on information, and hasn't signed a non-disclosure agreement, they tend to look the other way. That being said, that's why I'm going to be very careful as to what gets put out, and I'm going to edit anything that might in any way be sensitive. And why some of these are NOT going to see light of day. Believe me, this is going to be very very carefully released.

Check the documents very carefully for subtle things such as hidden text holding a unique ID showing who downloaded it etc..one of the ways i've found to defeat some of the easier systems is just to print the file to an .eps file format as its about as readable as any sort of printable format is in raw format and any basic form of hidden info will be easily viewable

but if in doubt...leave it out as i'm sure you don't fancy 20 years getting interrogated by people with a love of latex gloves

reply to post by Maxatoria


Oh yeah. There will probably be much left out of these.

I am curious as to whether you have received any manuals for aircraft that are still in the testing stages, or even more exciting, aircraft that have not even been announced publicly at this point in time. That would be a stretch, but I thought I would ask. I have a small list of aircraft that I would be interested in, although I do not know if you have anything on these particular planes, or if you would even release the material...Of course the aircraft that I would be interested in are the more sensitive ones for the most part, lol. I will list them anyway, and maybe you could at least confirm if you even have anything on them at the very least.

X-55 - This is a very interesting cargo aircraft. Last I checked this aircraft was in the air, but I do not know if they ever went into production beyond a prototype stage. But I believe this is primarily a USAF aircraft, manufactured by Lockheed-Martin.

F-35 Any variants of this aircraft. I do not know if they have ever gone into full scale production, but I know they have built and flown some, and I know the USAF is one of the branches that will utilize these aircraft. Seeing as how this is going to be one of the go-to planes of the coming years, I imagine it would be highly sensitive in nature, and even a flight manual could jeopardize some aspect of the secrecy behind this aircraft. Although it is not "secret" in the sense that it has not been announced.

F-22 I actually saw one of these guys when I was in the USAF, and they are absolutely gorgeous aircraft to say the least. But this was before the jets officially went into service with the USAF, becoming the F-22A, so I'm not sure why this plane was on the base. I did not work with aircraft myself, so my knowledge is mainly from a personal interest only.

AC-130 I am more interested in certain versions than others. For instance, the regular C-130 Hercules itself, as well as older versions like the AC-130A I am not as interested in. I do not know if the manuals for the various versions would be much different, but I am mainly interested in the newer versions of this aircraft, such as the AC-130U, J, W, or even H. Although these are all USAF aircraft, I know that there are not very many of most of them. I know they retired the A version a long time ago, but like I said, I do not know how different the manuals would be, although there are some great differences between certain systems of these aircraft.

Any 4th or 5th generation aircraft are quite interesting to me, but with certain aircraft, as you know, when talking about potentially classified manuals things could get a bit hairy. I wish I knew more about what documentation was actually classified, and for what particular aircraft. Anyway, I think you are doing the right thing by withholding certain documents, because not only could you potentially get yourself in trouble, but also your source, if the government/military felt inclined to track that person down. This is not to say this would definitely happen, even if you released everything you have, but it is a possibility.

There are very few flight manuals or aircraft manuals available on the web for modern jet fighters and bombers, and I have to think there is a good reason for that. Not just anyone has access to such manuals, and thus this makes me think these may be classified documents...Some of them at least. So anyway, I am interested to see what you decide to post, and I will be checking back periodically. Feel free to message me if you would rather answer any of my questions privately.