Israeli Airforce To Target Russian s300 Systems Delivery

Now Russia says it's delivering Mig fighter jets as well to Israel.

MOSCOW A Russian arms manufacturer says it is signing a contract to deliver at least 10 fighter jets to Syria.


Sergei Korotkov, general director of the MiG company that makes the jets, told Russian news agencies Friday that a Syrian delegation was in Moscow to discuss terms and deadlines of a new contract supplying MiG-29 M/M2 fighters to Syria.


Korotkov did not say how many MiGs Syria were buying, but says it would be "more than 10."

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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
This is just a quick graphic I made to look at approximate range of the S-300 PMU/2 for that area. It's listed at 195 Kilometers and that's on an older model. They're truck based and meant to deploy in minutes from a rolling condition, so mobile is an understatement. From one of the more southern spots though?

I might see Israel's point. It's a real small neighborhood for having such a world power scale air defense system. Then again, I wonder what distance and coverage is for Israel's? Can they pick off Syrian fighters from Syrian runways the way an S-300 system in Southern Syria can into Israel? I'm not sure, and I wonder if someone has a general idea on that? It's no small development to add in any real number though....if they aren't already there of course. The talk of deliveries goes back to 2005 and beyond.

I like that you chose essentially the valley of megiddo as the "ground zero" for your graphic.

Of all the places in the middle east to place a hypothetical military graphic, involving global super powers, you choose the location of Armageddon.

"...who can help but prophecy?"

God Bless,

After Netanyahu made clear he would not allow the S-300 anti-aircraft weapons to go into service, the Russian president reportedly suggested Israel buy them instead

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Israel wouldn't think twice about hitting the delivery process as soon as its in range,


They know they can draw in there friends which is why the CIA are in talks right now with them over the delivery & strike, Russia will back down as soon as the US/NATO get involved there simply out of there depths unless they start lobbing nukes back on full retreat

Russia has not yet delivered S-300 missiles to Syria: Putin AFP - Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday Moscow had not yet delivered its sophisticated S-300 missiles to the Damascus regime despite hints from Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that such shipments had already been made. "The contract was signed several years ago. It has not been realised yet," Putin said at a joint press conference with EU leaders. "We do not want to upset the balance in the region."

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“As for the S-300s, it’s one of the best air defense systems in the world,” Putin said following a Russia-EU summit. “It’s a serious weapon. We would not like to tip the balance of power in the region. We signed the contract a few years ago. It has not been implemented yet.”

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Well now that the US has announced are arms deal with Israel a message is being sent.Israel gets Bell Boeing V-22 transport helicopters (known as Ospreys), Boeing KC-135 in-flight refueling planes, advanced radar systems for fighter planes, and anti-radiation missiles. Now notice two odd things on that list KC-135s and anti radiation missiles. This is clearly a message they are giving israel the ability to put jets in the air for longer range missions and giving them missiles that track and destroy radar signatures in other words knocks out air defense systems. So since obviously the israelis feel the need to take there jets outside the country and have missiles to knock out enemy air defense systems sounds like a pretty clear message to me dont you think?

Originally posted by dragonridr
Now notice two odd things on that list KC-135s and anti radiation missiles. This is clearly a message they are giving israel the ability to put jets in the air for longer range missions and giving them missiles that track and destroy radar signatures in other words knocks out air defense systems.

Israel already has tankers, and has had them for years. They used them on the Iraq raid that destroyed the reactor (it was the only way they could get a strike package there and back).

One of the things here is that they aren't buying the KC-135, they are now ALLOWED to buy the KC-135, when in the past they weren't on the table in weapons deals. As one Israeli defense blogger said, most Israeli equipment from the US is bought with FMF funds that are released to Israel every year, and with the F-35 purchase, those funds are stretched awfully thin. Too thin to buy all these weapons on the list.

Originally posted by Zaphod58

Originally posted by dragonridr
Now notice two odd things on that list KC-135s and anti radiation missiles. This is clearly a message they are giving israel the ability to put jets in the air for longer range missions and giving them missiles that track and destroy radar signatures in other words knocks out air defense systems.

Israel already has tankers, and has had them for years. They used them on the Iraq raid that destroyed the reactor (it was the only way they could get a strike package there and back).

One of the things here is that they aren't buying the KC-135, they are now ALLOWED to buy the KC-135, when in the past they weren't on the table in weapons deals. As one Israeli defense blogger said, most Israeli equipment from the US is bought with FMF funds that are released to Israel every year, and with the F-35 purchase, those funds are stretched awfully thin. Too thin to buy all these weapons on the list.

They have between 8 and 10 707 tankers currently not enough for extended air operations lasting days. So watch they will buy the tankers mark my words. Because what they have now more then enough for a couple of sorties however to destroy air defense systems would be more then they can handle.So im telling you a puchase is on the way.

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That many for the US or her allies wouldn't be enough. For Israel that's just right. They don't have a huge air force so don't need a lot of takers. When you add the F-35 they don't have the budget to buy much else.

60-70 years of either the US or Russia showing up to sell or test weapons for future sale as a Nation disintegrates.

You guys... really? Concerned?

It's what both our nations have done for a living their whole adult lives lol

Nothing to see here in the long run.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
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That many for the US or her allies wouldn't be enough. For Israel that's just right. They don't have a huge air force so don't need a lot of takers. When you add the F-35 they don't have the budget to buy much else.

F35s wont be ready for delivery until 2016 so what they will do is lease some under the table with the defense department did the same thing with f 16s advantage to israel is they stretch out the payments. Unless the Obama administration is against it then they wait until 2016. But i have a feeling Obama will deal Because the f35I will include Israeli-made electronic warfare systems and there going to make huge money on selling there packages to Lockheed Martin.

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Payments are already being made. Israel gets a budget to buy US equipment through the FMF office (they handle foreign military sales). Most of that budget for the next several years is tied up with the F-35 and other equipment already purchased. Israel could also buy 707s cheaper and modify them in country and pay less than buying 60 year old highly used KC-135s.

Yeah Israel will buy from America... Syria buys from Russia, stuff WILL get tested LIVE on CNN lol... worldwide buying based on results commences.

The WMD hysteria isn't about keeping WMD's from certain nations to save lives.... It's like letting loose a Cure for Cancer... so much money would be lost if these conflicts ended.

Imagine if we let Israel deal with it's neighbors lol, so much Israeli research lost to us, no more fighter sales, certainly we can't let Iran get Nukes or Syria use chemicals... no no no, after initial technology those systems are homegrown... no money for us or Russia...

I'm not saying the tense points of the cold war weren't real, big $ at stake but mainly we go back and forth as good cop bad cop... Global economy needs building.

aljazeera

US to deploy missiles and jets to Jordan

Washington says weapons may remain there after exercise to help Amman deal with threat from conflict in Syria.

The United States will send a Patriot missile battery and F-16 fighters to Jordan for a military drill and may keep the weapons there to counter the threat posed by Syria's civil war, officials said.

The anti-missile systems and jets were approved for deployment to Jordan as part of a joint exercise with Jordanian forces, US Central Command said in a statement on Monday.

"In order to enhance the defensive posture and capacity of Jordan, some of these assets may remain beyond the exercise at the request of the government of Jordan," the statement said.


US officials declined to say how many F-16s would be taking part in the exercise, or how many aircraft might remain afterwards.

The US backed a similar move earlier this year in Turkey, with NATO deploying Patriot missile batteries along Turkey's border with Syria.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's last-minute trip to Russia on Tuesday apparently did not change the Russians' intentions to also deliver the advanced S-300 anti-aircraft missile system to Syria. According to the Journal, U.S. officials believe that Russia is moving more quickly than previously thought to deliver S-300 surface-to-air defense systems to Syria. U.S. officials told the paper that the S-300 system, which is capable of shooting down guided missiles and could make it more risky for any warplanes to enter Syrian airspace, could leave Russia for Syrian port of Tartus by the end of May.

From the OP's post.

The delivery of this anti aircraft and missile system to Syria is detrimentally "BAD" for Israel, Jordan, Turkey, and the US who will be stationed there for a drill for an extended period of time.

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Syria wants the SA-10(S-300PMU2), capable of engaging 12 aircraft, and firing 6 missiles at once.