Swarm of Lights Appear Over Argentina and Chile And Is Filmed From Six Cameras.

Originally posted by xxerse
To me it looks like a zeppelin.

Actually, yes, I forget to say..the movement, speed etc. some kind of blimp. This is one I forgot to mention. Could be manned or also some RC controlled blimp. Movement is VERY MUCH "blimp-like".

Originally posted by ezwip
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying and if you watch the video you will see it tilt just as a blimp does where it's nose is pointing down while the tail is up yet it keeps moving horizontally. It's a crap camera and we can't gauge the distance. I can look outside at night and actually see these things screwing around this time of year and at times they look like that. At one point in the video it looks like it's trying to tell you to come over here where parking is only $10. They will also carry banners that stream behind them and can have lights as well.

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I agree with your blimp explanation.

And no, it's NOT a "satellite", THIS explanation is really silly. You can clearly see the object tilting as you point out as well. "Space Junk" or "broken up satellite" doesn't move even remotely move in such a way.

Not sure this caused the UFO's in the video, but if you look at the 08:50 mark in this one you can clearly see two objects coming into shot from the right just before they cut the feed! This has been covered before I believe...

Originally posted by alldaylong
reply to post by ZetaRediculian

 

RC? I don't think a RC device would be able to travel over 300 miles over Argentina & Chile. Well not an amateur one i am certain. Unless you know something different?

I would FIRST want to see proof that there does indeed exist footage from those countries, from Argentina and Chile from THE SAME object.

Since the source is nothing but a YT video with no description whatsoever, any statement about the footage is speculation, unless we have proof about the sources and that in fact this object was filmed in A. *and* in C.

Also...the first object in the footage to me looks different than the one later one - there I also would want proof it is indeed THE SAME object. I mean, anyone can upload a video on YT and make some claims. Where is the original source of those videos?

reply to post by flexy123

I agree with your blimp explanation.

This was seen over two countries Argentina and Chile , they must have been really big and quick blimps .

And no, it's NOT a "satellite", THIS explanation is really silly.

No what it is is the Cygnus mass simulator which is a test mission for future resupply missions to the ISS .

Originally posted by Bybyots

I grew up watching the moon launches, so I love this sort of thing, but if you would like to get to the meat of this video, then just advance the timer to 23:31; that's the part you want to see.

Yep, we see a typical "break up" of a satellite ABOVE (!) the atmosphere, (filmed from ISS maybe?), burning with trails and everything you'd expect from burning up space junk.

It has NOTHING, not even in the slightest to do with the footage we are dealing here.

Here we see a number of lights which *might* be an object, LOW, way below the atmosphere, moving slowly, some possibly even blinking, and turning angle/tilting, lacking a trail or any other element one would expext from space debris.

You know, I am a SKEPTIC on this site, but this doesn't mean I need to believe a BS "explanation" even if some media claims it's a "satellite break up". (Ironically, your footage shows clearly that it is not, they have nothing in common).

This looks like a re-entry to me, possibly the one in this video?
www.slate.com...

Originally posted by Sheesh
This looks like a re-entry to me, possibly the one in this video?
www.slate.com...

This DOES actually look like a re-entry, I therefore retract all what I said before.
This footage is much better and also gives a better impression of the size.

Case closed for me. Nice example how crappy footage can be misleading.

Good lord. . .people think EVERYthing is a ufo these days. Broken up meteor!

Originally posted by flexy123

Originally posted by Sheesh
This looks like a re-entry to me, possibly the one in this video?
www.slate.com...

This DOES actually look like a re-entry, I therefore retract all what I said before.
This footage is much better and also gives a better impression of the size.

Case closed for me. Nice example how crappy footage can be misleading.

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Again as i stated earlier the object have no trails behind them so how could they be rentry?

Originally posted by flexy123
"Space Junk" or "broken up satellite" doesn't move even remotely move in such a way.

You are not alone in this opinion, but I have to ask a serious question -- on what experience or knowledge do you base it, or is it just a guess?

Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by ignorant_ape

 

That (your question) is exactly what has been going through my mind after I watched all the videos and read this thread... Good one. :up

To everyone else (not "ignorant_ape"):

admin warning: The topic if this thread are the videos in question NOT your fellow members (no matter how much you may disagree with them). Stick to the topic and you'll be fine.
You can disagree with your fellow members but do it about the content NOT their personality or what you perceive their motives to be.

Springer...

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Thanks Springer for that intervention, it shows a fairness I thought was kinda lacking at times here, so I guess I was wrong.
On the subject of the reentry of the Orbital, (Cygnus satellite 2013-016A) if that is the correct designation, I still find that the Orbital website has nothing added up to a few hours ago and the last info, not up to date, is just a decayed orbit. Within the website it was expected to take several months for reentry. The text here under the Cygnus separation picture,

www.orbital.com...

Partial quote not out of context, "Captured by our onboard camera...... both the mass simulator and the Upper stage are expected to stay in orbit for several months"

No one "knows" anything yet. No one has configured this is the re-entry of anything, nor a meteor, nor anything else. Blimps are required to have navigation lights on from sunset to sunrise - I do not see this. They can't just fly willy-nilly making fun light patterns, they must adhere to safety regulations. And it was incredibly un-blimp-like. Google "blimp at night images" and find me a single picture that looks even vaguely similar to this. Good luck with that.

What amuses me the most is how so many of you KNOW what it is. You KNOW it is a blimp - or balloons - or a meteor - or a satellite - or a remote control device with leds.. etc. Guess what - most of you are WRONG. There is only one answer. And the condescending tones in this (and almost every other UFO thread) just makes me shake my head. You are WRONG. You DON'T know.. stop acting like you do. As a UFO believer myself, I am not ready to believe it is a UFO until everything else is ruled out, or common sense rules out whatever is left. I am not ready to say it's a UFO.. or a meteor.. or anything else.. because I don't actually know. There is not enough evidence to make such a claim.

And I lean towards almost all objects being Terran in origin, even though I do think there are unexplained UFOs that are not from around these parts. Because usually it is human-made. But the desire to either be "right first," or try to explain away a sighting as quickly as possible is hardly denying ignorance. It's embracing it.

I've received this map from my skywatch colleague in Chile, Luis Barrera -- it's his estimate of the May 10 flight path, and also an earlier one.

It needs to be pointed out that satellites don't suddenly just drop out of orbit. In the weeks leading up to entry, their orbits spiral in lower and lower and lower, and tracking data is released regularly on the Internet. It was such tracking data that led Molczan to quickly match the time/direction reported in Chile to the time/direction of the decaying 'Antares/Cygnus'.

Here's the latest discussion at the website of amateur space satellite watchers.

RE: Possible reentry captured over Chile ?
From: Henry Hallam ([email protected])
Date: Sun May 12 2013 - 19:17:32 UTC
satobs.org...

I can confirm that at least two of the objects from this launch were
misidentified by Space-Track. 39144 was in reality Cosmogia's Dove-1 3U
cubesat, misidentified as the 1u PhoneSat "Alexander". 39143, listed on
Space-Track as Dove-1, was actually one of the PhoneSats - Bell, I think.
It is indeed obvious from Space-Track's RCS data that 39145 and 39147 were
the two large objects from this launch, though it wasn't so obvious during
the first few days! So it looks like the designators for several objects
from the Antares launch were mixed up by JSpOC. I did contact JSpOC a
couple of weeks ago to inform them of the misidentification of Dove-1, but
it doesn't seem to have been corrected yet. I will keep an eye on the
database.

Henry

I also strongly suggest reading their overview of satellite entry observations, here:
satobs.org...

reply to post by JimOberg


Thanks Jim,

Could you make that map larger so it's readable? I zoomed in on it and I swear it looks like Arabic (possibly elvish).

Just to confirm: all we are waiting on is for Orbital Sciences to cop to the burn-in, right?



P.S. Also, to everyone, it's Sunday, and it's Mother's Day; we aren't going to hear from Orbital Sciences till tomorrow at the very earliest.

I did find something of consequence on the Heavens above Website.
It's a pretty cool website, if you are interested in spotting the ISS or Iridium Flares.
Typically, you pick a Satellite, and you can get information about when it might be visible over your area.
They do have a listing for the Cygnus Mass Simulator

Cygnus Mass Simulator

In short, they list it as being launched April 21, and they list it's orbit as being decayed on the 26th.
They stop predicting the visibility of things in decayed orbits, because..well because they are unpredictable.

So now we have evidence of a Satellite, with an orbit that decayed two weeks before this sighting.

Originally posted by Bybyots
reply to post by JimOberg

 

Thanks Jim,



Just to confirm: all we are waiting on is for Orbital Sciences to cop to the burn-in, right?

My thinking too, and especially that this is a NASA contract as I understand it, and that it was a perfect procedure from start to finish, but that there are two disposables gonna hit me on the head around my birthday in August, except that they have already done that even with all the fecking telemetry aboard and including believe it or not, a camera.

reply to post by smurfy

My thinking too, and especially that this is a NASA contract as I understand it, and that it was a perfect procedure from start to finish, but that there are two disposables gonna hit me on the head around my birthday in August, except that they have already done that even with all the fecking telemetry aboard and including believe it or not, a camera.

You and I are in the same boat. Pleased to meet you.

That's what I gathered from your link as well. We'll have it figured out one way or the other by, I would say, Tuesday.

Originally posted by lovebeck
Here's what I found. Google is your friend.

Argentina and Chile Lights...

I posted the link to the Slate.com article last night.

Anyhow, while this explains things for me, I find it odd there are no other "articles" out there about these lights. Maybe it is just a non-story, idk. I would love for this to have some sort of other worldly explanation, but looks like space debris to me...