Report: Muslim cleric invited to pray over fallen SEALs damns them during service

reply to post by Solarfall


And how many of them do it, as suggested, at a baseball game during the national anthem? None. If you were to do that, as suggested, people would beat the hell out of you, and possibly kill you.

Oh how, "The Muslim people have enriched America."

Quoting Obama himself... This event makes me sick.

And my freakin' peers are too worried about who's going to be the next American Idol.... From what I have collected, Obama is doing as much damage to America while he can, right in our faces.


Thanks for posting man.

reply to post by MaxSteiner


I hate that I missed those exchanges, I really do. I have only one question, though - did he/she at least tell me which Islamic countries they have had personal, on the ground experience with?

Or was it just a list of the usual "I've not seen it first hand, but I hear through the grape vine that..." propaganda points?

reply to post by nenothtu


No knowledge at all from what I could see, just "observation and FACT" to quote him, he didn't even go so far as the "hear it through the grape vine" (I assume because that would have at least required a source), just lots of angry rhetoric, if I had to paraphrase the posts his recurrent theme was that Islam never being a religion of peace at any point in its history.

Having looked at his posting history though he does seem to mostly come here for the trolling

Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

I'll tell you the same thing I told my best friend: Proselytizing can be as simple as saying "I am a Christian".

Then that's what you told your friend, that is not how it is actually defined. Using your definition of what words mean does not make it a fact, it's just making them a crutch to support your opinion.

I started off angry as I read the first few post, angry that someone had been invited to what is a very sensitive time to all who are concerned but as the picture unfolded and this man was part of a larger mass funeral ceremony, then there is logic to the actions. Funerals are sensitive times and maybe a joint funeral was simply the wrong idea.

And I bet it was awkward for the Imam as well.

Originally posted by Alternative4u
reply to post by SeenMyShare

 

I can't understand what the suprise is on this news, as most British people know who follow American events that your American public put a Muslim President into the White House twice, yes two terms, it just goes to show you can fool the people ALL of the time.

Muslim president ? haha
He is christian. and more like Zionist puppet. I assure you if he was a legit American Muslim This country wouldn't be going downhill , That's if the Zionists kept him alive.

Originally posted by sefhinny
Oh how, "The Muslim people have enriched America."

Quoting Obama himself... This event makes me sick.

Thanks for posting man.

First of all this event isn't true.
Second of all. If you are an arab muslim and you live in america and you don't end up a doctor/ lawyer/ engineer. basically making 80000+ dollars a year. Your parents are going to be very very mad. Yes that's our muslim community in america.

Originally posted by Solarfall

Yeah, I dare you to travel to an Islamic country and openly DENOUNCE Islam and the Quran.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Tell me how many Islamic countries YOU'VE been to, first hand, and then maybe we can talk.

Denouncing the Quran is a criminal offense in almost every Muslim country, punishable by imprisonment or death.

• Afghanistan
Penalties up to execution by hanging

• Algeria
Years of imprisonment and a fine

• Egypt
May be punished by the death penalty

• Indonesia
Maximum of five years imprisonment

• Iran
Prison sentence or Fatwa seeking death

• Jordan
Imprisonment (up to three years) and a fine

• Kuwait
Punishable by death

• Pakistan
Punishable by death

• Saudi Arabia
Penalties up to the death penalty for blasphemy

• Sudan
Imprisonment and a fine

• United Arab Emirates
Imprisonment up to 10 years. Since 1993 that Sharia punishments may not be imposed on non-Muslims.

Islam & Blasphemy

reply to post by ollncasino

The Quran and the hadith do not speak about blasphemy.[2] Jurists created the offence, and they made it part of Sharia

reply to post by ollncasino

Originally posted by ollncasino
Denouncing the Quran is a criminal offense in almost every Muslim country, punishable by imprisonment or death.

And if we expect visitors to this country to obey OUR laws, I guess we should obey theirs when we're there, huh?

Originally posted by nenothtu
I really do. I have only one question, though - did he/she at least tell me which Islamic countries they have had personal, on the ground experience with?

Ironically, one doesn't need to travel to Islamic countries these days to experience Muslim intolerance

• 1 in 8 American Muslims polled believe that Muhammad's critics should face the death penalty.

• Nearly Half of U.S. Muslims polled believe that critics of Muhammad should be criminally prosecuted

• 58% of US Muslims said criticism of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under the Constitution.

• 1 in 8 British Muslims support demonstrators who call for the death of those who insult Islam

• 68% of British Muslims believe that people who insult Islam should be arrested and prosecuted.

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If American and British Muslims are in any way representative of Muslims as a whole, it is stretching credibility to suggest that Muslims as a group are typically moderate.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


I agree - and since they aren't interested in our lifestyle - why don't we get our military out of their countries?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

And if we expect visitors to this country to obey OUR laws, I guess we should obey theirs when we're there, huh?

I am glad that you feel that Muslims should integrate into the West rather than the West accommodating them.

When in Rome...

reply to post by ollncasino


Where did these polls come from again ? Because, I've been to dearborn . Nobody have been asked such questions.
I love how they call them "scientific polls "

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Do you have a link?

Who "forbids our men to proclaim their Christianity"? There have been rules in the military for years against proselytizing but people can proclaim their religion if they want.

edit on 5/9/2013 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

Wasn't there just a thread last week on the Obama admin charging a serviceman with religious proselytizing? I'm pretty sure you were on that thread and you said the same thing that no one is forbidding Christianity. Then you were splitting hairs over what was proselytizing and what was just mentioning your faith. Wasn't that you I had that conversation with?
If this incident doesn't explain it to you, I don't know what will.

reply to post by ollncasino


They should have read the Constitution when they took the Naturalization test. The First Amendment would have explained a few things.

Originally posted by 0SolidSnake0

The Quran and the hadith do not speak about blasphemy.[2] Jurists created the offence, and they made it part of Sharia

The Islamic world be a freer place if Muslim Jurists hadn't made it a criminal offense to criticize Islam across the Islamic world.

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy'

Kuwaiti sentenced to 10 years in jail for Twitter ‘blasphemy’

Turkish composer and pianist convicted of blasphemy on Twitter


Pakistan blasphemy laws used to justify 'murder': EU parliament

Muslims Pressing for Blasphemy Laws in Europe

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Well I did see this...which throws up warning flags...

From the article..

Larry Klayman, a lawyer and founder of the nonprofit public-interest advocacy group Freedom Watch, organized the news conference

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Larry Elliot Klayman (born July 20, 1951) is an American attorney and activist. He is known as the founder and the former chairman of Judicial Watch,

Lawsuits

In April 2011, Klayman filed a lawsuit against Facebook, accusing the social media website of "negligence" for not responding quickly enough to calls to take down an anti-Israel "Third Intifada" page and demanding $1 billion in damages. Facebook representatives responded that the suit was "without merit."[6] In December 2012, the district court dismissed the complaint on 47 U.S.C. 230 grounds.[7]

Also in 2011, Klayman represented Joseph Farah in his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit against Esquire magazine.[8] In July 2011, Klayman represented Bradlee Dean in his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit against Rachel Maddow; Dean was eventually ordered to pay defendants' legal fees that totalled nearly $25,000.[9]

In 2012, Klayman filed on behalf of a Florida resident an unsuccessful challenge to Barack Obama's placement on the primary ballot and claimed that the latter is not a natural-born citizen.[10]

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Absolutely.

reply to post by ollncasino


Please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks. I said visitors should obey our laws while here.