Mail Order Brides

reply to post by FreedomEntered


I don't know. Women are better at nurturing children than a father, father is good for other traits in kid's development. Many modern western woman chose to void that or show not enough responsibility(be it work or social life). Maybe these guys are going for a more homey wife?

I guess each to their own, i would prefer good mother for my children when they are young than a trophy wife or a 6 digit maker. My mom was stay at home mom(after having me and my siblings), that never made her any less valuable than my dad. In fact, i think 75% of the time my mom was there in my life, rest were dad.

Women look at housework as something bad, and less important, there lives the problem.

I really feel bad for kids now a days, growing half-assed.

reply to post by FreedomEntered


Haha, you are obviously a woman. I happen to agree with you somewhat, but not totally. Men who marry mail order brides, are usually old geezers, who do indeed look fools with younger women. And yes there is a huge element of exploitation involved... however it works both ways. The women exploit the older men for citizenship etc and the older men exploit the younger women for obvious reasons.

However a relationship based on mutual exploitation is the traditional model of marriage. the woman exploited the man for his manual labor and wage slavery, and the man exploited his wife as a baby making machine and house servant. Feminists moan about traditional marriage being a one way exploitation of women..but it was a two way exploitation where both men and women got a cr4ppy deal.

The modern western woman wants a man who is equal to her...yet they fail to see, two people who are equal in a relationship cannot make a relationship last. You have to have yin yang, you have to have different roles. The reason modern western marriages fail, is because feminists want to be men and have "mr right", some guy who agrees with everything they think etc, an emasculated male who displays zero dominance, only there to serve them and inflate the feminist ego.

All in all, like it or not, the co dependent marriage was one that worked and lasted..so mail ordering your bride is probably a good idea if you want a marriage that lasts, especially as women from poor countries usually are still willing to play their traditional role as a wife.

Western women have had their way too long, look at the mess society has become due to feminism. You cannot be married and be a feminist. And that's fine by me, but too many feminists wanted their cake and eat it, so they married with no intention of playing the role of a wife...look at the damage that mentality has done to society in general.

reply to post by TheBlackHat


I agree 100% but i would not blame all the current problem on the feminists, there are many factors, cultural aspects that lead to divorce.

I also know the difference between Women's Right Activism and Modern Feminism, one of this is vial to the society.

But the western women do not want equals as such. Do you honestly think in a womans " dreams" she wouldnt also hope for a chance at marrying someone like Brad pitt who are 7 digit earners, extremely handsome, probably funny, educated - of course they would go for this in a second.

But the reality is most people are just " ordinary" and going about their lives with ups and downs and no where near such good looks or earning potential as these people have.

As for equals, its the case that more men are stay at home dads if the woman earns more or is more career orientated. Is this really a bad thing?.. I mean, you also find some women going abroad to find a poor but handsome creature lol like these men do. So they too are not looking for an equal.

So I am not sure what you mean by women seek their equal, id say they seek someone to make them feel happier.
Because they dont HAVE to marry to economically enhance themselves.

So does this mean a woman has lost her feminity because she is more " career orientated". I dont think so...

As for homely sure its less likely they are going to go off if they dont speak the language well and are homely. But this is just someone suffering from a "control" issue. Surely true love is one based on trust

This fear that a " sex in the city" type will lead their own life with their own choices surely is against the hoices of everyone. That of choosing their own life path.

reply to post by luciddream


Well even birth control for example. traditionally and i mean for thousands of years, there was a reason women were supposed to stay virgins until marriage. Mainly because no man, in his right mind, would want to bring up another mans kids, go out and work for another mans offspring etc, i mean it's common sense.

Well the problem with the sexual "liberation" of women has been them now thinking like men and expecting to live as men. I dare say the average woman today sleeps with far more men than the typical guy can sleep with women. Mainly because men do the chasing and women do the choosing, so there is no reason for women not to sleep with dozens of guys..it's easy done... that's why women who do act promiscuously are not given any respect for it whilst men who do the same are acknowledged as having game or being a Casanova etc...because its true. For a man to sleep with women takes game but no game or skill is required for a woman to do likewise...Women don't seem to get this FACT. So in sex women are not equal, they have easy access to sex with multiple partners...where as your average man does not... hence mail ordering brides...and porn...women don't need this stuff as they know they have easy access to men any time they want. This is also why we have a pv55y whipped generation of western men...pathetic but true.

Well as western women are sexually dominant and have no restraints on them due to birth control, it places them in a "dominant position" in relationships with men, because its well known women control the supply of sex, not men, as I already explained..and if you control the sex you control the money and everything else too. Well, you cannot have two Alpha's in a relationship, even gay men have a pecking order of who wears the pants, so to speak. In most marriages between men and women its a continual power struggle for dominance. Thanks but no thanks. I never liked the idea of treating a wife like cr4p or vice verse, but in order to keep a marriage going, someone has to dish it out and someone has to take it.

Women wanted power, well now they have it..in fact they have had it for 30 years or more...but they are not happy now, when they see the results it has had. you cannot be in control of a marriage and expect a husband to have equal control. Marriage all over the world has never existed with two equals. I agree women should have the rights to live their own lives, but don't get married if you want to be independent, its not fair on the husband who thought he was getting a wife "to love honor and "OBEY" him. Marriage isnt for me and Im a man, and i would rather have my Independence than have to work all hours for a wife and kids etc. I just think women who want it all their own way are causing a lot of damage to society with that ridiculous attitude.

reply to post by FreedomEntered


Sometimes I wonder if a Fem-Bot with 4 buttons (Cook, Clean, ____ and off) would be better for most men?

Mila Jovovich is Ukrainian, but she is not a mail order bride. She was modeling while still in single digits.

Like most actresses, she tends to marry her co-workers.

Oh and as im all for equality of the sexes. I am all too willing to marry a beautiful rich woman, I think i can still just about pass for eye candy. I may want a mistress or two on the side, but c'mon i am a man.

reply to post by TheBlackHat


Well in Europe you will also find women with " arm candy" I mean nowadays with cougars on the look out and so forth.There is also space for men to be docile good looking trophies


But my point is are these people really happy? Or is it just low self-esteem like they feel they cant do any better. And dont want this person to really question them about how they live their life.

A trophies job is to not question their spouse but just to recieve " gifts , money, or a lifestyle" isnt it?!

I dont see even what children can gain from seeing parents who do this.

reply to post by abeverage


One day after the blow up doll popularity dies out lol ... they will invent robots to replace human wives who will cook and clean etc and you will see how actually " insane" people are. I bet there will be some men who will marry them especially if they are able to engage in some basic english usually " Yes, yes yes" will be enough

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TheBlackHat

 

A trophies job is to not question their spouse but just to recieve " gifts , money, or a lifestyle" isnt it?!

I dont see even what children can gain from seeing parents who do this.

edit on 9-5-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

Sounds good to me...no wonder so many good looking young women opt for it. Oh the children get bought up by nannies...educated in boarding schools etc...the actual parents are a distant memory in most cases of people who marry trophies, because they are usually very rich people, that's why they can afford trophies. Did somebody say Donald Trump.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by abeverage

 

One day after the blow up doll popularity dies out lol ... they will invent robots to replace human wives who will cook and clean etc and you will see how actually " insane" people are. I bet there will be some men who will marry them especially if they are able to engage in some basic english usually " Yes, yes yes" will be enough

Dont even kid yourself. If they ever invent realistic looking sex bots, real women will become obsolete overnight. Though I think your wrong about the basic English, I think most guys would pay extra for the silent models. Sorry hahahahahaha.

reply to post by TheBlackHat


lol.... Well good thing we can still have babies

But Donald Trump picks the ugliest model going, her face looks over done with surgery and she doesnt look healthy because of it. Its bizzare really... so whos winning?

Id say the woman in this case. He is the loser and looks utterly idiotic with his yellow wig.

Sure it kinda maintains him a younger image, I mean if he was with a woman more in his age group, they would have that " mature" look .

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TheBlackHat

 

lol.... Well good thing we can still have babies

Well, as im sure your aware, it's women who have a biological clock and women who get broody around babies..Not men...i don't think most men could care less if they had kids..men want sex...women want kids... that's the trade off..always has been. It's probably also the reason you get so many "dead beat dads" who drop kids all over town and don't pay child support...men, or a big segment of men, really don't care about kids, even their own, they want sex..women don't seem to bothered about sex but they do want kids.

Also a few years back some feminists were hailing the news that science had supposedly found a way to make babies without the use of men or even sperm...but when that news came out i don't remember men being too upset..even though I seem to recall the expression "men will soon become obsolete" being used quite a lot in the media. Women don't get it, men are obsolete, as far as marriage is concerned, because marriage is an obsolete idea, western women are too independent to really function as half of a marriage these days.

I for one, am sick to death of what seems like most women, these days, who are demanding, the world from a guy, for little or nothing in return. Most western women, who have reasonable good looks and bodies, seem to think looking good entitles them to some superman of a guy with a huge salary etc...because like i said, women control sex...so they can demand the world from suckers. look at Kim Kardashian for a good example of the modern western woman...its not that many years ago she would be considered untouchable, due to her sexploits..she certainly would not get some high earning celebrity for a husband...That's how imbalanced we are these days, all tipped in women's direction. Thats the real kicker too, a guy like kanye west, should on paper have his pick of women, due to his fame and fortune, but looks like he is just as desperate as someone who orders a mail bride. Maybe now you see what im talking about.

reply to post by TheBlackHat


Men get broody what nonsense. Its a biological need in both genders to have children and to want them at a certain point .

Ive had two partners who have really wanted my children. When I wasnt ready.

But now a days people are probably also happy just not to pro-create. Its not stronger in females than males. No way!

The issue is the selfish desire, like if men could have children without women they probably would. You find a new wave of man doing this. Because the issue is waiting for others to be ready, sometimes others arent.

Thats the issue with child support and so forth. One was more ready than the other... clearly. Or other is less responsible .

Also these men who go to foreign countries to take their brides, also tend to want children with them even if both of them already have children thats how strong the instinct is to breed.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TheBlackHat

 

But Donald Trump picks the ugliest model going, her face looks over done with surgery and she doesnt look healthy because of it. Its bizzare really... so whos winning?

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edit on 9-5-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

Oh c'mon I seen his wife, and she is hot by most peoples standards. Slim, nice rack, decent face, and decades younger than him. I mean if she was a professional model, it means she made a living due to her looks, so lets be real here. I may prefer Cindy Crawford or someone else...but she is still what most men would call hot. If your hotter than her, slim as her etc, and have picture evidence...than im more than interested hahahaha, especially as im sure you stated you don't care about a man with money. You sound like a typical woman to me, no offence.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TheBlackHat

 

Men get broody what nonsense. Its a biological need in both genders to have children and to want them at a certain point .

Ive had two partners who have really wanted my children. When I wasnt ready.

But now a days people are probably also happy just not to pro-create. Its not stronger in females than males. No way!

The issue is the selfish desire, like if men could have children without women they probably would. You find a new wave of man doing this. Because the issue is waiting for others to be ready, sometimes others arent.

Thats the issue with child support and so forth. One was more ready than the other... clearly. Or other is less responsible .

Also these men who go to foreign countries to take their brides, also tend to want children with them even if both of them already have children thats how strong the instinct is to breed.

edit on 9-5-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

well I don't want kids...The only reason most people and women these days want kids, is after they have lived every other life they could do whilst they were young...sure people get to 50 and think, i want a kid to carry on my lineage and name etc...but only men have that privilege, probably because men were made to live like men..whilst women were not made to live like men, as shown by having a ticking biological clock. But today women get to 50 etc and want a kid...but they cant or shouldn't have one, because it is dangerous and against all nature...just like women's current mentality does not fit with their own bodies, but maybe one day science will enable them to grow testicles, maybe then they will be happy...i highly doubt it though..REMEMBER THE SUICIDE RATE IS FAR HIGHER WITH MEN THAN WOMEN..IF WOMEN THINK WE HAVE IT SO GREAT WITH OUR MAIL ORDER BRIDES ETC....

reply to post by TheBlackHat


I dont get what you mean. If women are physically able to have kids into their 50s why not? Same with men. But again its more of a selfish act. They will probably die whilst these kids are in their early twenties or at least wont be able to provide their children with the stimulation that children need which is often also physical.

The idea that men are after sex is a farce, its an ego thing. Complete narccism. The happiest people are probably those who find a well rounded partner. Also they probably do better overall too.

I dont think men have it great with male order brides, Im just saying like what if women imported men from a third world country? You think you have it hard with the " sex in the city " types wait until they start bringing in slaves. There has to be limits lol....and a certain respect for others intellectual decisions.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by TheBlackHat

 

I dont get what you mean. If women are physically able to have kids into their 50s why not? Same with men. But again its more of a selfish act. They will probably die whilst these kids are in their early twenties or at least wont be able to provide their children with the stimulation that children need which is often also physical.

The idea that men are after sex is a farce, its an ego thing. Complete narccism. The happiest people are probably those who find a well rounded partner. Also they probably do better overall too.

I dont think men have it great with male order brides, Im just saying like what if women imported men from a third world country? You think you have it hard with the " sex in the city " types wait until they start bringing in slaves. There has to be limits lol....and a certain respect for others intellectual decisions.

edit on 9-5-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

You don't seem to get it..Western women don't need to have mail order husbands...as the men who live in their own country will bend over backwards for women already. in fact men in the third world would never do the things women expect western husbands to do...if you think men in the west are "sexist" you should speak to someone who lives in the third world...some of them have a dozen wives remember. They still expect a woman to come to a marriage as a "virgin" and have a dowry with her to boot. yeah I can see men from the third world really flocking to marry western women


And women are not physically able to have kids into their 50's etc...Are they hell, no, science has enabled stuff like this to happen, but it don't mean it should happen. Like I said, men have always been able to have kids at any age...and if pushed id rather have a young mother to bring me up than an old one. especially as mothers are more important than fathers, most often. Traditionally fathers were out at work most of the time and the kids never seen much of them anyway.

reply to post by TheBlackHat


Okay I get your point but Western women do not have it " like in the fairy tales" .
Think what you are getting at is both are as bad or as good as each other.

There are women here who marry or at least go out with foreign men who speak very little of the language so they have the " upper hand" in a relationship. Maybe its human nature to be opportunistic unfortunately.