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Originally posted by OutonaLimb
obama was made to be broken. the only question left is when
'they' have decided that it all comes toppling down.
everything about this man is faker than a fake pair of fake boobs.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
That is not his birth certificate. It's a graphical representation in digital form of his birth certificate. Only a documents expert could tell if it's real or fake and only if he had his hands on the ACTUAL document, not a picture made of dots.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
There is no proof that that number was assigned to someone else. Read
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by EricR
There is the way we want things to be -- and there is what is real and verifiable.
Boy, you got that right! And all the stuff you charge is NOT real or verifiable.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Whenever I encounter people defending Obama, I simply ask them for the case number* of a dismissed case where the case was decided on the facts.
The case was denied on the facts. They decided not to hear the case because there were no facts. Only rumor and suspicion, without proof.
Originally posted by EricR
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
207 cases had made it to a Court and/or Judge by the time of that chart's creation. Including over 25 to Supreme levels. 201 have been defeated or dismissed with prejudice. The remainder were pending and I'm sure, by now, have also suffered defeat.
I've lost count of the number of cases dismissed because of lack of standing. In those cases, they did not even look at the evidence.
Which cases, specifically, are you aware of ..... where the issues were decided on the facts?
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by OutonaLimb
obama was made to be broken. the only question left is when
'they' have decided that it all comes toppling down.
everything about this man is faker than a fake pair of fake boobs.
Well to be honest I am glad he won and not romney.
You have a better chance to survive a tarantula bite than a rattlesnake bite.
If romney was president he would have become the new "yes sir of israel" and that speaks for itself.
Other than THAT both are exactly the same. Same coin but different sides. Heads or tails?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by EricR
I've lost count of the number of cases dismissed because of lack of standing. In those cases, they did not even look at the evidence.
Which cases, specifically, are you aware of ..... where the issues were decided on the facts?
You've got to be kidding. Did you even open the list? Scroll down at all? Every single case on it has an active hyperlink. (At least one) Most of those links go straight to court filing papers, transcript papers or similar resources so you can see ....one by one, what happened and why dismissal happened in each individual case.
Originally posted by ReAwakened
Originally posted by Miracula
Originally posted by ReAwakened
You know TSHF when you get warned about off topic posts in YOUR OWN thread.
lol... Right!.... ahh, i just replied with a bit of sarcasm to someone else's way off topic post!
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by OutonaLimb
You know, the funny thing to me here? Older members here can verify this...happily, I'd imagine (sigh), but I used to be just like you and the other birther on this thread. I was SURE Obama was bogus. I was CERTAIN he was not who he claimed to be. I had NO DOUBT of that.
After all, so many people can't ALL be wrong or liars, right? ...wrong.
I can't even recall which member it was now who pissed me off on this so much, I went off to find the source material to PROVE my position that Obama was a bogus creation. Then I found some..which raised questions. That led to more, and hours passed. More reading...more digging... a sick feeling by about that time, too...and more time and reading. By the end, all I managed to prove (beyond a shadow of a doubt) was that I'd been a perfect ass all along for believing what others claimed to be the truth without searching it out myself.
To be totally fair, the majority of this didn't sit in the public record for all to see and learn until 2010. Enough did...but not all, by a long shot. Obama has also been coy and played games about this. They could, for instance, directly post all the FOIA material on the White House site. They post everything ELSE they find remotely interesting it seems....like a teenager with a new twitter account sometimes. He seems to like the conflict it keeps going by sheer lack of effort on the part of birthers to go find any themselves.
You know what makes it obvious when people haven't spent the time to read the actual material though? There are details in the years of Immigration investigations and reports that I read (and anyone can..it's all sitting out there to find) that those prone to bash Obama on anything could NEVER resist splashing all over this debate to make him look even worse. It has nothing to do with legal status and you'll have to read it yourself to find it ( ) I think it'd be low class to talk about any further than this ....but it's a sure fire way to spot researcher vs. follower.
you know wrabbit, i am not so sure obama is a bad guy in reality, but they
certainly don't object to the conspiracy minded folks having that impression.
in fact they encourage it.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Okay, so you're going to confirm for me that you have not, in fact, done the research and sought out these documents to review yourself?
I just figured by your degree of certainty and level of assertion for your own position that we were starting from a place of similar knowledge of what is out in the public domain. If you'd like, I'll be happy to supply links to the material I'm referring to.
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Sorry, but 'Attorney' Taitz? Orly Taitz, who's lost every single case ever? The one who is possibly the worst lawyer in the world?
Originally posted by EricR
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Sorry, but 'Attorney' Taitz? Orly Taitz, who's lost every single case ever? The one who is possibly the worst lawyer in the world?
Check your source against the facts.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
You've been hitting the thread pretty hard..and as I noted, we're running OT to the point of tearing up the thread this OP was trying to make. No... As noted above, I'll not go on after giving it more thought.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by EricR
You've been hitting the thread pretty hard..and as I noted, we're running OT to the point of tearing up the thread this OP was trying to make. No... As noted above, I'll not go on after giving it more thought. If you'd like to show some initiative, start your OWN thread where you're on the record as the OP for your positions ..then I absolutely will document everything I've said.
I don't say things like this lightly and I don't say them, and then fail to follow through. Integrity is something I value above almost anything else in life...both online and in real life. As the movie goes...'Build it and they shall come'. Well, Do and I Shall. Until then, I'll go back to insuring my replies are within line to the topic and nature of the thread we are on at the moment.
It's not a birther thread.