Possible cover-up in Boston. Don't let this slip by.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Cobaltic1978

 

As of today: legalinsurrection.com...

But if you can't 'believe' anything anyone writes what's the point of reading it anyway, as stated in my previous post there has to be some trust here.

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Trust is not necessary.

Believe your own eyes, and your own ears. If you hear a report, and consider the matter in that report important to you, then go check out the facts for yourself. Once you've seen and heard yourself, then you can trust the report.

All of life is propaganda. People say things to achieve effects to their benefit. History benefits the winner, because the losers never write about the war.

It's the same with all things. The TV and the Radio are just the modern propaganda machines.

Even when your son comes and tells you, dad I didn't throw a party in the house while you and mom were away, a burglar broke in and smashed the living room. It's all propaganda.

The news of Boston Bombers gives power to those who have already written the laws, to get new laws passed.

Check out the size of the patriot act. Most of it was written before 911. It just needed the right conditions to push it through the congress. The right conditions conveniently came along. Yeah, as if we believe that. And the whole thing passed, which nobody read. Nobody read the Act, because it was too many pages to read, there was no time, it needed to be passed right away. So, a law gets passed without debate or discussion, or anybody knowing what is in the bill. All it takes is a vote. But, to set up the vote, you need the right emotional conditions. To hurry people along. Like the bank bailout. If you guys don't pass the law, and give us all this money right now, the whole system will collapse. Propaganda. All speech is for "control".

Why do you have a mouth and tongue? "Come here." "Give me that". "Stand over there." "Strip". etc.. all speech is for controlling our environment.The TV and the Radio are for controlling the public. Giving them their thoughts. Making the public believe things, so that they will act, or allow actions which they wouldn't otherwise allow.

Everything is scripted. Rehearsed. Practiced. And then the play is put on for the viewing public. That's what magic is all about. Sorcery. That's what we're seeing here. Witchcraft. The witches are in the shadows.

The only guaranteed true writing:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- " Ephesians 6:12

We wrestle against the witches and the socerers, those that put on the dramas to control our minds.

But, if we needed to know the things we are told by others, we'd have the sensory apparatus built into our bodies that would enable us to see and hear these things told to us for ourselves. We'd have eyes to see long distances, instead of just short sight. We'd have ears that could hear around the world, instead of just a few meters in front of us. We'd be able to see into the immediate past, to confirm things, or see into the future, to verify the prophets and the soothsayers reports. But, God or Nature, gave us none of this ability. That means we don't actually need it. Men lose their freedom, as soon as they violate their design, and start grasping at things beyond their own abilities. The lose their freedom, because now they have to depend on what others say, and therein the door opens for the deceivers, the sorcerers, and the witches, to manipulate our imaginations, with stories, and dramas, and plays.

Originally posted by MrxMulder
How about stripping us even more from our rights and taking more away from our "freedom" to keep us "safe" from their own creations? How about to show the masses that martial law isn't so bad after all?

Oh come on. Those are such vague motives it's laughable.

You guys have no evidence or motive.

The public is not afraid of this. The ONLY people afraid are you delusional people on this site. I don't like to call people delusional, but in this case it is very applicable.

Get real.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
These threads are becoming a disturbing and a disgusting trend here on ATS. Without any 'actual' proof, except for SUSPICIONS and INCONSISTENCIES

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So people here should just shut up and not discuss this and wait for proof to be handed to them. What do you expect then , that people on ATS only report fox news articles as fact? because you know , it cannot be taken into question or discussed in anyway. How do you suppose details and facts are uncovered? By being silent about it?

The fox news forums might be a better place for you then ATS i think.

Originally posted by Rubic0n

Originally posted by NoJoker13
These threads are becoming a disturbing and a disgusting trend here on ATS. Without any 'actual' proof, except for SUSPICIONS and INCONSISTENCIES

edit on 29-4-2013 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)

So people here should just shut up and not discuss this and wait for proof to be handed to them. What do you expect then , that people on ATS only report fox news articles as fact? because you know , it cannot be taken into question or discussed in anyway. How do you suppose details and facts are uncovered? By being silent about it?

The fox news forums might be a better place for you then ATS i think.

There's a difference between questioning and analyzing the story....and making the claim that it is 100% fact that this was done by the government. (while the OP uses "possible" many posters are saying it's "100%" the government)

reply to post by Ghost375


You want real ?


Warning profanities ! No need for volume. Move forward to one minute mark.


I got you're real. That's as real as it gets.

reply to post by randyvs


and the point of that is??

Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by Rubic0n

Originally posted by NoJoker13
These threads are becoming a disturbing and a disgusting trend here on ATS. Without any 'actual' proof, except for SUSPICIONS and INCONSISTENCIES

edit on 29-4-2013 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)

So people here should just shut up and not discuss this and wait for proof to be handed to them. What do you expect then , that people on ATS only report fox news articles as fact? because you know , it cannot be taken into question or discussed in anyway. How do you suppose details and facts are uncovered? By being silent about it?

The fox news forums might be a better place for you then ATS i think.

There's a difference between questioning and analyzing the story....and making the claim that it is 100% fact that this was done by the government. (while the OP uses "possible" many posters are saying it's "100%" the government)

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And?

But it is ok for you to claim that it was 100% sure not the government right ?

Originally posted by Rubic0n
And?

But it is ok for you to claim that it was 100% sure not the government right ?

and did I claim that smartass?

reply to post by Ghost375


You said,

Get real

So I got a video that shows the effects of a real bomb comparable to the one in Boston.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Ghost375

 

You said,

Get real

So I got a video that shows the effects of a real bomb comparable to the one in Boston.

oh, so you're actually saying the bomb was fake now??

You're saying that's a fake bomb?
*grabs popcorn*

reply to post by Ghost375


No, it's obvious they used some type of device. That filled the air with smoke.
To cover up what was going on in the dense smoke and directing the blast up ward.
i guess you don't see the difference in the effects ?

And about you video, why does the guy with the Camera keep saying oh my Gawd !
When there isn't anything there to have that type of reaction ? It's really hokey !

reply to post by randyvs


IMO randyvs is like EF Hutton; when he talks, I listen!

reply to post by NickDC202


Awe thanks Nick, but you may want be careful. I been getting called a lot of names lately.

IMO randyvs is like EF Hutton; when he talks, I listen!

Doesn't mean he believes any of it .

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Ghost375

 

No, it's obvious they used some type of device. That filled the air with smoke.
To cover up what was going on in the dense smoke and directing the blast up ward.
i guess you don't see the difference in the effects ?

And about you video, why does the guy with the Camera keep saying oh my Gawd !
When there isn't anything there to have that type of reaction ? It's really hokey !

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and one bomb was on grass....the other was on cement. You know what cement turns into when it blows up....DUST.

Is that explosion fake too?

And saying oh my god is a normal response after an explosion happens nearby.
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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by NickDC202

 

Awe thanks Nick, but you may want be careful. I been getting called a lot of names lately.

As someone who called you names before I called you an ATS friend, I'd encourage folks calling you names to start a dialogue with you; they won't be disappointed.

reply to post by Ghost375


Well I must be saying something right ? So the first and foremost point I have to be making
is, I know for a fact the bomb in the vid I posted is real (vid 1). The one in the other vid (vid 2) that you produced
could be real. But I don't know that it is. I see nothing telling me it is. And the bloody shot we see for vid 2, that isn't
even a frame in the video itself. That just makes it more suspicious any way.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


Still waiting for a clearer video from 9/11. It seems there are some users in defending the government official version.

Thats rather ironic.

Ghost, how is the gov. stripping us of our freedoms a vague motive? Sounds clear to me. Just because you can't possibly be persuaded to think that it's happening doesn't mean its vague. Btw, I don't believe in ghosts.

One other thing.. Why couldn't they show us a video and then us it as evidence in a court case? I don't understand that, but im no lawyer. They show videos on the news of bank robbers and then I would assume they use said videos in their court cases. They even show pics on the news and court tv of stuff they are using in the Jodi Arias trial as they are being used in court. Please someone explain...

reply to post by AlphaHawk


That's pretty much about 95 % of this site.Sad,but true.

As for the OP,I'm trying to watch the vids now but they're not loading correctly. Something tells me I'm in for a load of BS anyway.But I'll comment after I watch.

Originally posted by Bundy
Ghost, how is the gov. stripping us of our freedoms a vague motive? Sounds clear to me. Just because you can't possibly be persuaded to think that it's happening doesn't mean its vague. Btw, I don't believe in ghosts.

One other thing.. Why couldn't they show us a video and then us it as evidence in a court case? I don't understand that, but im no lawyer. They show videos on the news of bank robbers and then I would assume they use said videos in their court cases. They even show pics on the news and court tv of stuff they are using in the Jodi Arias trial as they are being used in court. Please someone explain...

"stripping us of freedoms" is a pretty vague term. Drinking and driving is a freedom. Is it ok when they strip that freedom? Being able to kill someone is a freedom. Is it not okay to strip that freedom. Where do we draw the line on what freedoms are okay? It's not a clear line. Just because some people want to limit certain freedoms, doesn't necessarily make them a bad person. There was a time when I loved that word "Freedom" then I realized it was an illusion. It's not what you think. It's a catchword. And lately I've seen many conservatives using that term, "freedom", whenever someone has a view different from their own.
It's a vague emotionally charged term.

Now if you want to discuss which particular freedoms they plan on taking away with this alleged plot, I'm all ears(well not tonight, going to bed after this post). I can be persuaded. But I need logical reasons. I haven't seen them in this thread. I'm not one of those people who trust the government. I absolutely distrust EVERY single politician. This isn't me being blind. "My hosanna is born of a furnace of doubt."

I don't really believe in ghosts either. Ironic, isn't it lol? I'm not quite sure what your second paragraph is about.