'bad' aliens?

um ... I don't know anything about aliens and I have not seen one ... but of course I believe there are other beings in the universe, some more advanced, some less etc. I read in a post somewhere here about the 'Greys' or some species of alien that are out to harm us.....
But I don't understand the apprehension about aliens. I figure, if a species is so technologically advanced that it can travel intergalactically, then it must surely be highly evolved spiritually, else it would have destroyed itself with its own technology, as we humans will surely do some time soon if we don't 'grow up' spiritually .....surely a highly evolved being would not want to hurt us and can only be benevolent?

I don't feel that being highly evolved necessarily means they would be benevolant. If Cro Magnum man were to view us today, one could assume that we would be seen as highly evolved. And the human race as a whole is well below benevolant.

Personally, I hope you are correct, but with so much being covered up, hidden, and nearly impossible to prove, we may never know.

Yes true ... but we are a long way off to flying into another galaxy, I am sure we will get there though if we don't destroy ourselves or our living conditions before then. I don't see that we are highly evolved at all, just clever with technology.

I shared your beliefs before; I thought malevolent aliens could not exist, because if they are technologically advanced, surely they would have to be spiritually advanced, not to destroy themselves. However, in reality, it does not work like this. This is evident from our own species, which is technologically advanced, but spiritually retarded, yet continues to exist.

I think malevolence can mean two things in the context of aliens; self-serving and evil. A self-serving alien race, maybe at peace with itself, and a relatively utopian society to us, but it may view inferior races as insignificant, thus justifying it's actions on it. In the same way, humans justify their actions on animals.

Star Trek equivalant: Cardasians(?)

A truly malevolent enslaving or evil race, may not be at peace with itself, and be torn apart by wars, aggression and distrust, a relative hell to us. Their very nature would be war, and their contacts with inferior species is likely to have an hostile agenda.

Star Trek equivalant: Klingons

A malevolent, hive-minded race, maybe in perfect order, with little to no individuality or emotions. Their nature would be what is best for them, and they would treat inferior species as nothing more than a profit or a loss.

Star Trek equivalant: The Borg

There are many things that can decide why certain species become what they are, biology, scientific development, spiritual development, cultural development and history.
For instance, a completely materialist and scientific species, to whom spirituality maybe an alien concept, may form into a borg-like civilization, where everyone is linked to a hive mind and are genetically and cybernetically engineered to be emotionless drone workers.

I think, we humans continue as we are, we are headed towards a fate like this. I am more optimistic however, that we will become a benevolant, spiritual species in the end. I think that is what we always were.

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So are you talking about being spiritually evolved?

I would think that all depends on what type of belief system these aliens have. Could it be possible that they have no spiritual views at all?

Unless one was able to sit down with an alien over a cup of coffee and a cigarette for a one on one, I would have a hard time comprehending this one.

The truth could be world changing.

yeah ... i was talking about being evolved spiritually ... something like Indigo_Child's footnote/signature ...lol

surely a highly evolved being would not want to hurt us and can only be benevolent

Lets look at the evidence....

1. First sighted enmasse soon after we developed the bomb.
2. First spotted around military outposts and bases.
3. Invade our airspace secretively.
4. Abduct citizens against their will.
5. Experiment on citizens against their will.
6. Are linked with the death of military personnel who tried to reach them.
7. Have strived to maintain the secret of their existance.
8. Have manipulated memories to effect the above.
and so on...

Doesn't sound very benevolent to me....

Originally posted by Gazrok

surely a highly evolved being would not want to hurt us and can only be benevolent

Lets look at the evidence....

1. First sighted enmasse soon after we developed the bomb.
2. First spotted around military outposts and bases.
3. Invade our airspace secretively.
4. Abduct citizens against their will.
5. Experiment on citizens against their will.
6. Are linked with the death of military personnel who tried to reach them.
7. Have strived to maintain the secret of their existance.
8. Have manipulated memories to effect the above.
and so on...

Doesn't sound very benevolent to me....

Nice Gaz. Good post maybe ill be like you so day.

Who said flattery gets you nowhere.

Well i can give you c_au no more than my opinion i have based on what i think i know. I could of course be totally wrong.

Greys in my opinion are here due to there being cloned they have no more means to reproduce, so they must clone. Hence the similaritys between the Grey race. A side effect of cloneing being that it (and im no genetical Dr guy) causes more and more damage to the DNA like if you tape a taped video over and over again, the final tape isn't going to be very clear. So they need to patch up there DNA or find a way of introduceing natraul reprodution to there race. Which is where we join. They cross breed between us and them to do just that or alternativly they just borrowed our DNA to patch theres. So they visit us. Thats my may views rolled up but god to right all my opinions about aliens and the possible races would take decades.

shorty .. is this your theory?

No, not really. I have addapted it myself but i didn't go into any of that. The theory has been around awhile. I can try and give you some links if you want?

Nice to see a new member thats intrested

This is evident from our own species, which is technologically advanced, but spiritually retarded, yet continues to exist.

We'll see about that in more or less a 100 years.we are destroying the atmosphere and the biosphere.

we have less than 50% of chances of survival.

Originally posted by shorty
Greys in my opinion are here due to there being cloned they have no more means to reproduce, so they must clone. Hence the similaritys between the Grey race. A side effect of cloneing being that it (and im no genetical Dr guy) causes more and more damage to the DNA like if you tape a taped video over and over again, the final tape isn't going to be very clear. So they need to patch up there DNA or find a way of introduceing natraul reprodution to there race. Which is where we join. They cross breed between us and them to do just that or alternativly they just borrowed our DNA to patch theres. So they visit us. Thats my may views rolled up but god to right all my opinions about aliens and the possible races would take decades.

that's an extremely far-fetched theory.I would be surprised if our DNA was compatible with theirs if they even HAVE dna....
and if you believe Paul_Richard that's grey propaganda.

However,if that is the case then they are very bad at genetics,because it's at least 60 years that they are doing this and they never seemed to find what they are looking for.


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Darkside, I agree - what the h*ll is taking them so long.... But, what if they are looking for the perfect DNA? Isn't Cancer and other ailments/diseases considered genetic? If so, maybe that is what they are looking for, someone's genes that would be totally free of any possibility of any illness. Then use that person to set their base line for cloning.

Originally posted by DarkSide


compatible with theirs if they even HAVE dna....
and if you believe Paul_Richard that's grey propaganda.




[edit on 4-11-2004 by DarkSide]

If they have DNA. Of course they do!!! Farfetched maybe but it is indeed what i believe and came you explain almost everything away with one theory and one reason. Wait it dont sound so far fetched now.

Originally posted by shorty
If they have DNA. Of course they do!!! Farfetched maybe but it is indeed what i believe and came you explain almost everything away with one theory and one reason. Wait it dont sound so far fetched now.

How do you know their DNA is compatible?don't you think a lifeform that evolved on a different planet would have a totally different DNA structure?

maybe it is even a different form of DNA.I'm sure they understand genetic codes,they can program their own species exactly like we program with C++ on computers.They don't need our DNA which is very unlikely compatible with theirs.

To me, being highly evolved physicaly or spiritually doesn't mean you are "good." It only means you are advanced. Take the concept of "Satan", as an example- Higly evolved, yes- powerful, knowledgeable, I guess- but pure evil. While I don't think ALL alien beings will be "evil", I do think that the intentions of said race should be taken into consideration. The Greys don't seem too friendly overall.

Originally posted by DarkSide



How do you know their DNA is compatible?don't you think a lifeform that evolved on a different planet would have a totally different DNA structure?

Im guessing that there DNA is compatible because of there smilar apearance which leads one to think they must have evolved on a similar planet.

Frogs and toads look similiar and are both amphibians. They are not genetically compatible. Apes and humans are not gentically compatible. Appearances don't mean squat.

No well not at the moment anyway. Maybe the greys do have the capability. We must also concider that we may be them.

And no offense der kap but do you know that for a fact?