Satanic sex cult that's snaring celebrities

Ah,she joined a group sex club ,and helping to promote it.

reply to post by Saurus

In my opinion, celebrities should be able to belong to whatever orders they like, without having to be tortured by the press with lies and tales about the nature of their involvement.

Not only that...
But the Tattoo looks to me to say "ata" rather than "oto"!!!

And it's an awful Tattoo considering the intricacy of the rest of her Body Art!!!


Seems like a load of "the God Moloch's" (rhyming slang) to me!!!



Peace Saurus!!!

FriedBabelBroccoli
Are you the guy who was just crying about how the Christians are all so smug and disliked?

Then you go and post this? oooooooooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy I think you are done.

Done with what? Are where did I say that?

You really need to stop inventing things....

OTO is so 1920s and its semi-successor Scientology is so 1950s. Get with the program folks.

AugustusMasonicus

FriedBabelBroccoli
Are you the guy who was just crying about how the Christians are all so smug and disliked?

Then you go and post this? oooooooooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy I think you are done.

Done with what? Are where did I say that?

You really need to stop inventing things....

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

Good, it is that self same Christian smugness that gives the average person a legitimate distaste for your 'moral' position when it comes to judging others.

I rest my case . . .

-FBB

Saurus
Would you care to quote the portions of ritual which involve sex?

Or have you simply convinced yourself that this is "how it is" in the OTO without any substance to validate your claim?

Have you not read Thelema?

It is the work she was promoting through her social networking, if you have not read it I would suggest you do.

-FBB

FriedBabelBroccoli
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

Wow. You do know that when you accuse someone of insulting Christians, plural, as in with a 's' attached you better have a better quote then me calling out one person in a rather pointed in direct manner.

Try again.

I just found out that she died. I saw that one user a few pages back mentioned it (can't remember the username,sorry about that) but I thought to point it out in case someone missed it.
She tweeted her o.t.o tattoo (it had one more dot, " o.t.o." ) in April 2013 and died an unexplained death in April 2014.

The only thread on ATS about it is in the "people forum" .I guess it's mostly for people to express their condolences if they so wish but the OP does mention the whole oto matter. A few posts later network dude explained that:

Just one man's opinion, the OTO is quite harmless. Nothing satanic, just out of the ordinary for most. Not a member, but the members I know, haven't grown horns yet. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

My opinion is different.

On topic now:

Any thoughts?

Plenty.

Edit: The "see more at www..." in the quote was just added by the ATS's quoting function,in case someone wonders.


Edit No2: I forgot that o.t.o. does have originally three dots so I mentioned it "o.t.o" thinking that the third dot on Peache's tattoo was her choice for some reason. My bad.

AugustusMasonicus

FriedBabelBroccoli
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

Wow. You do know that when you accuse someone of insulting Christians, plural, as in with a 's' attached you better have a better quote then me calling out one person in a rather pointed in direct manner.

Try again.

Umm what?

Where did I accuse you of insulting Christians?

FriedBabelBroccoli

Are you the guy who was just crying about how the Christians are all so smug and disliked?

I was insinuating you are a hypocrite as you turned to mocking a spelling error and the perception of others. Your use of the term "smug Christian" and subsequent application to the entirety of group would invalidate your claim that your statement was directed solely at an individual. It clearly demonstrates your point of view is personally extended to the group at large . . .

AugustusMasonicus

Good, it is that self same Christian smugness that gives the average person a legitimate distaste for your 'moral' position when it comes to judging others.

Are going to insist on making things up to portray yourself as a victim?
Go right ahead.

-FBB

reply to post by mideast


I really don't see the problem. Sex is not sinful....if that is what you are getting at. Repressed societies where sex is taboo usually have high incidents of rape and child abuse.

Humans have needs beyond reproduction. If these adults enjoy group sex, or the celebration of the process of bringing into life that which was just a thought before.....then more power to them.

No one HAS to watch our movies. They do because they are good. That's why people have been copying our movies and series for some time. We were honest enough to make them in the first place and they followed our lead because there is something to showing everything of reality.

An image is not a sin. Hurting others for "thoughts" or "desires" is.


Just my thoughts.

After reading a little bit more through this thread i am more convinced then ever that the right path to take on this plane is the gray one, i think spirituality is a great thing a lot can be learned from god in all of the religious texts out there and so on, part of what makes these books so good in certain ways is there open ended in terms of god is talking to you the person directly and giving that person the info they seek in a lot of cases...


Were the problem lies with religious texts (other then i don't feel none of them are 100 percent right that is for sure) is god is telling a particular individual something some times through these books and he tells different people different things to help them, so because the infinite creator tells one of his children something, it a lot of times is for that person only... so when some one tries to come on here and force what they have been told down some one else's throats when that might not be what god wants another to hear or understand because they are facing something else... then this knowledge can become perverted to a certain extent and not just religious books face this danger either.

So i see that books of both a light nature and a dark nature can be perverted and the safest way to ensure ones own freedom in this and to watch out for traps from either side is to take the middle path.... the path of the gray and try to listen and understand as much as possible, and yes i do think there are more then three paths (light dark and gray) but the gray one is the right one for me because i think in the end it opens the door to the most truths....

Just my opinion...

iSomeone

nancyliedersdeaddog
reply to post by iSomeone

 

You claim Freemasons are pretentious yet you are claiming Augustus isn't worthy of your information. Why not tell us all why your Grandfather didn't accept becoming a 33rd degree Mason? I'm sorry but the way you are acting is why so many people are starting to become anti-religious and bash Christians. Network dude was right you are being a zealot and very Judgemental on a group that has millions of members who are also Christian.

edit on 11-4-2014 by nancyliedersdeaddog because: (no reason given)

No, actually it was the very poor and crass behavior of that member, which you obviously condone, which has made me come to this conclusion. If you are unaware of his unbecoming conduct toward me, please go back and read the thread. He was not civil, nor polite, and just budded in to attack anything that had anything to do with the Bible.

Why should I feel obliged to then reason with him further?

And why should I have to be the one defending myself after he was the one bullying?

You were the one claiming the father of Freemasons is the devil, Augustus was being nicer to you then most other members would be in a similar situation. You are using the Bible as your only evidence against Freemasonry so of course he's going to attack it.

King Seesar

nancyliedersdeaddog

MystikMushroom
Jay-Z is rumored to be gay. Beyonce is just his "beard" to keep his reputation.

ETA: This sounds like some kind of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of thing. Kubrick didn't last to long after that movie came out. Meethinks he knew something.

edit on 24-4-2013 by MystikMushroom because: (no reason given)

Why kill Kubrick when they could of just put the movie in development hell, kill him when they first saw the script, or you know make sure if he does the movie it's going to be an independent film ? Meethinks these evil powerful rich people have no common sense and the IQ of 80.

I am going to get back to this topic later but this must be said, i don't agree with everything David Icke says but he did say this group is clever but not wise so i would lower the IQ to about 70, i explain how i think this group works and it's true origin and started it in this thread....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It seems the most logical explanation of this group.....

As far as any kind of sex gos as long as it's not with kids or snuff crap or people aren't really raped do what you want, it's more about defeating the pure evil of this group and not man made concept of sin...

edit on 3-4-2014 by King Seesar because: (no reason given)

So a group that has been able to keep evidence of them existing aren't wise? The must be pretty wise because the majority of their members don't speak out against them and the one's that do are usually crazy and end up discrediting themselves.

Good for them. To each their own right??

FriedBabelBroccoli
I was insinuating you are a hypocrite as you turned to mocking a spelling error and the perception of others.

Oh, you mean networkdude who I was actually on the phone with when I did that? In case you did not pick up on it he and I have fun with each other's posts on a regular basis. Friends do that. Do I need to explain to you how the friend thing works?

Your use of the term "smug Christian" and subsequent application to the entirety of group would invalidate your claim that your statement was directed solely at an individual. It clearly demonstrates your point of view is personally extended to the group at large . . .

Being that you could not provide a quote of me directing that towards an entire group invailidates your point. The person in question was smug and also made it a point of insinuating that his religious predilection somehow elevated him above everyone else. I think the shoe fit perfectly.

Are going to insist on making things up to portray yourself as a victim?
Go right ahead.

Pulling one quote out of a thread is irrelevant and disingenuous, the context is accurate as the poster was smug and self-identified as a Christian in an attempt to demonstrate some sort of moral high ground.

So yeah, stop making things up, people are on to your nonsense.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


You don't think you come across like this?
www.merriam-webster.com...

smug
adjective \ˈsməg\
: having or showing the annoying quality of people who feel very pleased or satisfied with their abilities, achievements, etc.

Surely not . . .

LoL

-FBB

FriedBabelBroccoli
You don't think you come across like this?

Not in the situation you brought up. Network knew what was going on but apparently your delicate sensibilities were offended by our repartee. I really do not think he needs you to defend him, particularly from me.

reply to post by Saurus


The press doesn't have to answer to people like Peter Grant anymore.



Some institutions call out the menace in a man.

nancyliedersdeaddog

iSomeone

nancyliedersdeaddog
reply to post by iSomeone

 

You claim Freemasons are pretentious yet you are claiming Augustus isn't worthy of your information. Why not tell us all why your Grandfather didn't accept becoming a 33rd degree Mason? I'm sorry but the way you are acting is why so many people are starting to become anti-religious and bash Christians. Network dude was right you are being a zealot and very Judgemental on a group that has millions of members who are also Christian.

edit on 11-4-2014 by nancyliedersdeaddog because: (no reason given)

No, actually it was the very poor and crass behavior of that member, which you obviously condone, which has made me come to this conclusion. If you are unaware of his unbecoming conduct toward me, please go back and read the thread. He was not civil, nor polite, and just budded in to attack anything that had anything to do with the Bible.

Why should I feel obliged to then reason with him further?

And why should I have to be the one defending myself after he was the one bullying?

You were the one claiming the father of Freemasons is the devil, Augustus was being nicer to you then most other members would be in a similar situation. You are using the Bible as your only evidence against Freemasonry so of course he's going to attack it.

As the Bible is the ultimate authority, it is all that is needed. Everything can be either proved or disproved holding its teachings to that of the Bible.

And yes I am very well aware if someone believes different than the Bible they will have a problem with it and not wish to listen to it. That too shows how God's word is alive and reveals thoughts and intentions of the heart.

reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog


Let me go a little further, if you may so oblige me.

In Revelation Chapter 6 we are told about four horsemen that ride forth during the last days.

Most people realize who three of the horsemen are: (1) A pale horse, named death. (2) A Black horse, this is granted to cause famine. (3) A red horse, this is warfare. It is granted to take peace away from the earth, so that people should slaughter one another. This has all been ongoing since 1914.

Yet nobody wants to recognize who the rider of the white horse is:

(Revelation 6:2) 2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.


We know that white symbolizes righteousness. And there is a passage in Psalms that alludes to the rider of the white horse:

(Psalm 45:3, 4) . . .Gird your sword upon [your] thigh, O mighty one, [With] your dignity and your splendor.  4 And in your splendor go on to success; Ride in the cause of truth and humility [and] righteousness, And your right hand will instruct you in fear-inspiring things.

This man who has been blessed to time indefinite ride forth in the cause of truth and humility. He is girded with a sword. Why is that? We are told:

(Psalm 45:5, 6) . . .Your arrows are sharp—under you peoples keep falling— In the heart of the enemies of the king.  6 God is your throne to time indefinite, even forever; The scepter of your kingship is a scepter of uprightness.

It is to strike down those who fail to heed Jehovah's moral standards in the Bible, he is a righteous God and upholds his Father's clean moral standards. All those who are against them this rider of the white horse, being invincible and mighty will certainly bring them all to ruin.

The very next verse reveals to us who that person is, it says:

(Psalm 45:7) 7 You have loved righteousness and you hate wickedness. That is why God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your partners.

He is the anointed one of Jehovah. And Another scripture tells us plainly that this is Jesus Christ:

(Hebrews 1:7-9) . . .Also, with reference to the angels he says: “And he makes his angels spirits, and his public servants a flame of fire.” 8 But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness. 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with [the] oil of exultation more than your partners.”


The righteous king Jesus Christ is seen in Revelation riding forth on his white horse to conquer all the nations:

(Revelation 19:11) 11 And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.


And we are told how great a slaughter it will be when he comes to uphold God's righteous standards and bring to ruin all wicked mankind who do not want to listen to him or be obedient to his word:

(Revelation 19:17, 18) 17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in mid heaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”


Yes, is it any wonder no one wants to recognize who the rider of the white horse is?

So again, yes, it makes sense if someone is living to standards contrary to Jehovah's perfect and righteous will, they would not only reject his word, but reject those whom he sends.

In the end they are only harming themselves.

We have all been given the choice. We have been told what is good and bad, and been given the choice as to whether we want to live by doing good, and loving Jehovah, or die by doing bad.

The choice is yours.