Beck Breaks Exclusive Information on Saudi National Allegedly Connected to Boston Bombings

reply to post by Rubic0n


and...man, you have no substance. This is why I told you to go read a book. The head of the DHS has told multiple stories during testimony and flat denied this guy existed. Explain that...hospital or not this kid was on the terror watch list based on this known connections with AQ. Read a book and look for his name. His families name. His relatives are in gitmo. If you think that the FBI and DHS did not know about a Saudi Notional with enough pull to get meeting with not only the president but the Sec State but DID know about an unknown Chechnayn you need to pull off the blinders. 1+1+1+! does not equal 0.

Originally posted by butcherguy
We need to do some more domestic oil drilling so we don't have to treat Saudi terrorists with kid gloves.

Dang it.

Why bother pandering to Saudi Arabia?

Why not simply invade them and take the oil...it wouldn't be the first time.

Plus, think of all the lovely money the arms dealers will make, never mind the Billions in reconstruction deals to the 'face fits' contractors...makes a handy distraction for the masses to chant to too.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Rubic0n

that is what i said when answering the question as to why he was on that watch list

Because he was there and of middle eastern origin who is here on a visa,

Right...and an FBI hours after the bombing likely designated anyone in Boston on a temporary Visa from the Middle East known to be in attendance at the marathon as being on the "watch list" to prevent them from leaving the country.

But as far as him "having been" on a watch list prior to the Marathon...no...he was on the list for however long it took the FBI to find him at the hospital and talk to him and family.

I have not heard that they put anyone else of Middle East origin who was in attendance on a watch list. Who else did they put on a watch list?
They must have had a reason to do this for this guy.

Also, this guy was not just in attendance at the marathon.
His Visa only gave him permission to attend school in Ohio.
But, he had an apartment in Boston. Why?
It does not sound like he came here to go to school in Ohio, as his Visa said.

Everyone who is negating this story keeps overlooking the unscheduled meeting between Obama and the Saudi big-wigs - which happened just before this kid was removed from the watch list.

People also keep forgetting that there was a press conference scheduled that day - after there was confusion over an arrest. Some news agencies reported that officials reported there was an arrest. Then they backed down on that. Then they postponed and then cancelled the press conference - all after Obama's secret meeting with the Saudis.

Put that together with everything else, along with Napolitano evading questions and practically lying to Congress, and I'm still not convinced that SOMETHING is not wrong with this whole situation.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by cornucopia
saudi kid had nothing to do with this...
beck is leading you on a dark path...
total bs
distract, distract, continue war on terror aka.crusades against muslims...distract..

fbi allowed this event, were in counsel with older brother.

He has copies of the DOJ paperwork. From sources inside the beaureau who are red-hot that the administration is trying to swiftly deport this Saudi under the radar. The congressmen that head the Homeland Security Commitee have the documents IN HAND.

edit on 23-4-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

We are witnessing the rise overtly in the Nation and planet of a ruthless oligarchy far more evil and virulent than even Hitler's. Worse than the Wrath of Khan. . . . worse than has ever been on the planet.

The actors--the satanic stooges in officel--construe themselves as above the Constitution; above the sheeple; above the serfs and slaves; above all that is good, decent, honorable, constructive . . .

They are hostile toward the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob particularly . . . the Boston event was designed and scheduled to implicate 'conservative Christians' in cahoots with 'Al Qaeda jihadi's.' The Retired Col in the thread on ATS outlines that fact in his video. Maybe I can find the thread later. I felt emphatically that what he said was absolutely true.

Here's that thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


It was proven by CNN and other MSM spewlets blathering initially about the source of the problem being 'patriots' or some such label early on. It was clear to all with a gnat's fart's worth of discernment that [color=CC9966]They were CLEARLY FOLLOWING THEIR SCRIPT for the incident, TO IMPLICATE HONORABLE PATRIOTS AND CHRISTIANS in their accusations. That much was evident within seconds of the news breaking out into the MSM.
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We saw this strategy to label and demonize their opposition in their earlier tests of such things . . . with Hitler . . . and Stalin . . . and Mao . . .
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You are all forgetting one thing. He is part of the Saudi Royals meaning he has diplomatic immunity, no visas need to travel, no deportation & if he did anything including murder he would get away with it.

Originally posted by BlueAjah

People also keep forgetting that there was a press conference scheduled that day - after there was confusion over an arrest. Some news agencies reported that officials reported there was an arrest. Then they backed down on that. Then they postponed and then cancelled the press conference - all after Obama's secret meeting with the Saudis.

Put that together with everything else, along with Napolitano evading questions and practically lying to Congress, and I'm still not convinced that SOMETHING is not wrong with this whole situation.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
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In my PhD coursework . . . one course was particularly full of import relative to organizational dev. . . it was taught by profs WHO TRAINED THE TRAINERS of Tavistock. i.e. my profs taught the leading teachers of Tavistock what and how to train their students. Yes, I know, Tavistock is plenty implicated in NWO stuff.

Anyway, a few of the points made were:

1. WATCH THE SEQUENCEs of interactions and events.
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2. WATCH who goes to whomever others [sorry if I mess up who/whom--not my strong point] and in what sequence.
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3. WATCH the results--not the blather . . . not the pronouncements . . . not the words . . . not the policies in writing . . . not the public relations noise . . .

please--watch
[color=CC9966]the RESULTS.

I think that's still good training to keep in mind when watching the evil oligarchy and their traitorous doings.

Globalist Destroyer-in-Chief Admin stooges et al are as evil a batch of ruthless, merciless, cold-hearted, cynical, arrogant traitors that ever sold any people or nation down the river to hell.
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reply to post by BlueAjah


It didn't go well for Janet Napolitano in the U.S. Senate.

It appears she fears Senator Lindsay Graham the most.

The narrative Janet Napolitano is floating is that the Chechen brothers were not

connected to any overseas Jihad terrorist organization.

Lindsay Graham responded with "I think it's a little too early to make that judgment."

Janet Napolitano also admitted that Saudi National Abdul AL-Harbi was on the

Terror Watch List.

Suddenly, Abdul is not as pure as the wind driven snow.

Also, there are secular progressives trying to float the idea that the Boston Marathon

Bombing was NOT a terrorist attack. Charles Krauthammer called that point of view

"absurd and embarrassing".

reply to post by TauCetixeta


Well, secular progressives have a huge problem, well two problems, Barry already stated to the American public that this was a terror attack, and the other problem is that the second bomber already told investigators that the motive was "religion".

Originally posted by blamethegreys
reply to post by esdad71

 

I know, right? Another thing I don't understand is how easily people here will quote Napolitano's testimony today as the final word, when she is clearly caught in a lie to congress last week. How can they blindly defend when they don't even know what they are defending? "It's Obama's administration, so we have to derail investigations in order to protect our dear leader!"

You know what's even more ridiculous? There are a number of threads here on ATS where the conspiracy nuts are throwing every amount of # against the wall trying to prove a narrative that the Boston bombing was a false flag operation perpetrated by the government and their attempts to cover this up, yet in numerous threads about this Saudi national people are fighting tooth and nail to support the official government story and affording them the highest level of integrity and honesty for whatever they say, (even though it changes day-to-day).

I mean, what the F?

Originally posted by Rubic0n

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Indigo5

 

Um, dismissing someone or information from them because of their "bias" is a circumstantial ad hominem fallacy.;

And putting all your chips on the table defending and believing them and fox is considered patriotic or something like that? i'd rather not be one then. You just ate..it...up.... now , consider the source, again.

be a informed american ...pffff Good job there. Take some advice , press that "Off" button on your remote.

I don't have cable TV.

What's the new charge against me?

Originally posted by esdad71


I find it funny you addressed everyone else but my post and I would think mine was the most point blank. The Saudi national was on the watch list before the bombing. That statement is really, really childish. The FBI knows who he is, the bombers, as well as the others they arrested and are currently looking for. They knew 5,2 and 6 months ago. They even knew about his trip abroad.

Please take no offense, but I chose not to respond to you because despite my and other posters providing links and evidence debunking everything you are saying above...despite the Blaze correcting thier story to reflect updates and correcting information...despite the original source changing the story...you continue to claim the false BS about an innocent man. I don't engage in discussion with folks who are immune to reality or facts. Peace.

Article headline: Napolitano admits: saudi was put on watchlist

interesting

Still seems kind of odd to be put on just while he was questioned then removed right after.

Napolitano firmly responded: “He was not on a watch list. What happened is — this student was, really when you back it out, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was never a subject. He was never even really a person of interest. Because he was being interviewed, he was at that point put on a watch list, and then when it was quickly determined he had nothing to do with the bombing, the watch listing status was removed.” [Emphasis added]

Also very different from this statement she gave initially

That’s a very different statement than what Napolitano had said when questioned about the story last week when she told Rep. Duncan that his questions were ”so full of misstatements and misapprehension that it’s just not worthy of an answer”.

That is all

Trowa

Originally posted by blamethegreys

Originally posted by Indigo5

Right...and an FBI hours after the bombing likely designated anyone in Boston on a temporary Visa from the Middle East known to be in attendance at the marathon as being on the "watch list" to prevent them from leaving the country.

But as far as him "having been" on a watch list prior to the Marathon...no...he was on the list for however long it took the FBI to find him at the hospital and talk to him and family.

Here's what has me scratching my head:

OK ...I will assume you are sincere and intelligent/capable of discussion and do my best to claify any confusion.

Originally posted by blamethegreys
Napolitano said today “He was not on a watchlist. What happened is — this student was, really when you back it out, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was never a subject. He was never even really a person of interest. Because he was being interviewed, he was at that point put on a watchlist, and then when it was quickly determined he had nothing to do with the bombing, the watch listing status was removed.”

He was in the wrong place at the wrong time because he was spotted near the explosion...AND was a Saudi National on a temporary student Visa.

That was enough for them to immediately (and for the very first time) put him on a watch list...PENDING the FBI chatting with him. That would mean he could not leave the country or flee by air while on the watch list.

The FBI found him in the hospital lickety split..investigated/interviewed him..friends ..family..excluded him as a suspect via imagery, interviews etc...near immediately...and pulled him OFF the watch list.

So he was on a terroist watch list for an afternoon...not before...not after..and cleared.

Originally posted by blamethegreys
When this information was reported last week Napolitano and ICE stonewalled and lied to cover this information up.

No they didn't....ICE picked up a Saudi National..not in Boston...but someplace else...not the Innocent boy that Blaze and Fox have been lynching...A whole different guy.

Originally posted by blamethegreys
Now that congress has some of the original documents in question, she is desperately trying to reshape the story into something that can be fit into some kind of "misunderstanding" category.

Not at all..YES on the misunderstanding...but that has to do with Glen Beck and the efftard Congressman who take him seriously and embarras themselves asking stupid, confused questions.

What precisely confuses you about what Napolitano said...Hint..It is ONLY confusing if you accept everything Glen Beck said as the truth...when in fact he got none of it right.

Originally posted by blamethegreysHere's a couple thoughts: Is our DHS is so inept that they never watchlisted a Saudi Foreign national from a prominent terrorist family, who has SIX brothers affiliated with Al Qaeda, FIVE of whom are in Gitmo? That is insane, because this kid should have been a section 212 3B before he ever stepped foot on American soil, according

Everything you state above here...IS..NOT..TRUE...Wasn't on watch-list prior to the investigation or after...only until they interviewed him....No Six borther in Gitmo...no 212 3B...ZIP..BS...Glen Beck identified and innocent student in Boston and made sh*& up about him...

He also borrowed facts from another story where a Saudi National was picked up by ICE for deportation and glued detials to this innocent boy. Whole different man.

Glen then threw in some outright BS...made up a story about this boy and pretended he had evidence..

Originally posted by TrowaBarton
interesting

Still seems kind of odd to be put on just while he was questioned then removed right after.

Not at all...the watchlist meant he would be flagged at the airport trying to leave.

I imagine the FBI put anyone suspicious they could identify in pics and video on the watchlist...and then removed them as they eliminated them as suspects via investigation and interviews.

It was a mechanism to prevent the perps from fleeing the country.

reply to post by Indigo5



They had him he wasn't trying to leave. They put him on the watch list while they were interviewing him .............. Therefore this has nothing to do with him being prevented from leaving then after interviewing him they removed him. How is this not strange?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by TauCetixeta

 

Well, secular progressives have a huge problem, well two problems, Barry already stated to the American public that this was a terror attack, and the other problem is that the second bomber already told investigators that the motive was "religion".

I'm just telling you that the Secular Progressives have their Thesaurus out and running

away from the term Jihad Terrorist Attack as fast as they can. It won't work. They

look fools who are in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi prominent families.

BTW, Janet Napolitano got hit hard by Senator Lindsay Graham, Senator Sessions

and Senator Charles Grassley yesterday.

Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by Rubic0n

 

and...man, you have no substance. This is why I told you to go read a book. The head of the DHS has told multiple stories during testimony and flat denied this guy existed. Explain that...

WOW...WTF is wrong with people...It's like Glen Beck claims the earth is flat...and then everyone who debates it keeps citing Glen Beck's statement as PROOF the earth is flat....It's flat because Glen Beck said it!!!

Napolitano ONLY appears inconsistent if you assume that the mountain of BS Glen Beck has said is the gospel truth.

It is a crazy debate because folks keep stating debunked claims by Glen Beck about this kid as fact and then calling Napolitino dishonest...

Just wild..it's like a cult.

Originally posted by TrowaBarton
reply to post by Indigo5

 

They had him he wasn't trying to leave. They put him on the watch list while they were interviewing him .............. Therefore this has nothing to do with him being prevented from leaving then after interviewing him they removed him. How is this not strange?

edit on 24/4/13 by TrowaBarton because: To add text

Don't forget the fact that Mrs. Obama stopped by the hospital to visit Saudi National

Abdul Al-Harbi to say " Hi. "

Senator Lindsay Graham "No broader plot?"

How can you say that so soon? Hmmmm.....

She is floating the " Lone Terrorist Brothers " idea and Senator Lindsay Graham is not

buying it.

Originally posted by TrowaBarton
reply to post by Indigo5

 

They had him he wasn't trying to leave. They put him on the watch list while they were interviewing him .............. Therefore this has nothing to do with him being prevented from leaving then after interviewing him they removed him. How is this not strange?

edit on 24/4/13 by TrowaBarton because: To add text

No they indentified him...then immediately put him on a watch list until they found him...to prevent him from being able to leave the country...then quickly found him at the hospital, talked to family, friends, interviewed him, check other pics and video...and cleared him of suspicion.

How is that strange??? It is likely what they did with a ton of folks until they honed in on the brothers.

Originally posted by TauCetixeta


Don't forget the fact that Mrs. Obama stopped by the hospital to visit Saudi National

Abdul Al-Harbi to say " Hi. "

Along with every other victim of the bombs in that hospital.

Since Abdul Al-Harbi played no part in the bombings and is guilty of nothing more than having an arabic sounding name...why should she have skipped visiting him?