Shooting at MIT (And continued events in Boston 18-19 April)

You can clearly see that the naked man they arrested and already "deported" is suspect number 1- but we are led to believe that he was killed during the shoot out and died at the hospital. I also listened to the whole thing from the start before the shoot out even happend- when they were so confused on weather or not they even had the suspects. twitter.com...

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wrong link here is the link twitter.com...

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I forgot about the naked guy being put in a police car, it sure does look like him. How did he wind up dead?

www.myfoxboston.com...

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I believe I may be able to answer this, although I'm not sure I'm right or not lol.

But I would suspect they believed him to possibly have IED's, and if he set them off they would destroy the helicopters and kill whomever was inside. So they had to be cautious from that standpoint.

Also I remember hearing that the visibility was an issue at one point during the night, and that fuel was another one.

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Thermal imaging is used in situations in wich visibility is low to 0. That's what it is ment for. Also with every law enforcement agency in the area involed I can't imagine that fuel would be an issue. Explosives might have been an issue but I never heard of them having surface to air missiles. Not trying to attack you or your ideas but it doesn't make sense that infrared wasn't used in the search mission.

I am not able to create a new thread yet, but I wanted to share this related story here in my home town. Hopefully one of you ATS vets will be so kind as to create a thread for it.

There was an attempt to, what appears to be an infiltration of a nuclear facility here in Tennessee. The suspect approached the facility by boat and when he was questioned by security began firing shots then sped off in the boat. What are your thoughts?

TVA Lockdown Following Shooting

Some one PLEASE create a thread for this story.

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Nah man, I didn't take an issue with what you said at all. Like I stated, I wasn't sure. I was just going off what I heard was the reason. I really had no idea why. You would think a helicopter would be one of the first ways they would try to track and locate him.

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Nah man, I didn't take an issue with what you said at all. Like I stated, I wasn't sure. I was just going off what I heard was the reason. I really had no idea why. You would think a helicopter would be one of the first ways they would try to track and locate him.

Has anyone checked this story out yet? I am reading it now and it is blowing my mind.

I already knew that they did this, but for the fact that the New York Times is admitting it...adds to the credibility.

New York Times story: FBI regularly hatches terrorists plots

and this

Crisis Actors

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Not surprised. It makes more sense that a sting operation went bad than the MSM story.

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Wow, that's really alarming! Funny thing is that I haven't heard anything about this story, and I live in TN also!
I felt strongly and still do that what happened in Boston/Watertown was only the beginning of a larger movement of terror cells here in the U.S. I was sure as I listened to the entire event and details after the shooting at MIT that what the police, and military were dealing with was something bigger than a couple of guys.
I mean 9,000 officers/military looking for 20 hours....I don't think so, they were busy the entire evening and early morning hours finding things and running across young men w/backpacks etc.
If you were able to follow it that night, and I was listening to the scanner all night, there were so many things happening and none of it reported on the MSM.

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Have you read anything about the author?

David K. Shipler
en.wikipedia.org...

David K. Shipler (born December 3, 1942) is an American author who won the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction in 1987 for Arab and Jew: Wounded Spirits in a Promised Land. He also wrote the book The Working Poor: Invisible in America.[1] Born in Chatham, New Jersey, [2] he is an alumnus of Dartmouth College [3] and served on the college's board of trustees from 1993 to 2003.[4] As a journalist for the New York Times he was their correspondent in Moscow and then Israel. At the end of his period in Israel he was reprimanded by the director of the Israeli government's press office for breaking military censorship rules; publishing a report about a bus hijacking after which two captured hijackers were killed.[5]

Some words that jump right out at me.

Dartmouth College same as Boston Marathon Bomber.
Moscow and then Israel Moscow where the older Boston Bomber flew to when he visited Russia.

Just saw this lol, don't know what to make of it. Hope it isn't true!

EDIT:

Okay apparently the soldier came forward and said it wasn't him. Phew, lol.

Originally posted by someoneinnyc
I didn't think 'terrorists' surrendered.

This whole thing smells.

I didn't think the 'innocent' ran and hid away.

Originally posted by ButterCookie
Has anyone checked this story out yet? I am reading it now and it is blowing my mind.

I already knew that they did this, but for the fact that the New York Times is admitting it...adds to the credibility.

New York Times story: FBI regularly hatches terrorists plots

That is part of the Opinions section of the newspaper. Hardly something substantial.

The NY Times isn't doing anything but publishing someone's independent opinion. That's no different that publishing someones post from here onto the NY Times.

Anyone noticed the slip from the Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis in this interview at the 2.30 minute mark?

video.foxnews.com...

He calls the bombing suspects "Actors" WTF?

Originally posted by xXSvenXx
Anyone noticed the slip from the Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis in this interview at the 2.30 minute mark?

video.foxnews.com...

He calls the bombing suspects "Actors" WTF?

Not working for me- That would be rather interesting?

Try this instead then
www.foxnews.com...

Originally posted by BriGuyTM90
Ithe only problem I have with the man hunt that took place and I MAY BE TOTALLY WRONG, But why not use a Helicopter with FLIR from the beginning?

That would be sensible, yes. I haven't heard that they didn't use it from the beginning (I did follow the chase, and heard comments about it, but I'm not sure if the police would have told anyone when they begin to use what tech).

If they didn't use it from the beginning, it may have some simple explanation (perhaps it was used elsewhere, took time to prepare, don't know).

Even if they used it from the start, there may be some privacy issues with filming peoples homes with FLIR, and how would you specify between the target and a home owner? They would have the same heat signature I think.

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hmmmm.... page not working for me- would have really liked to see that!