BREAKING:Explosion At Boston Marathon

Please repost this link, basically the UM coach said she heard loudspeakers announcing: "its just a drill. do not worry." www.local15tv.com... this supports your prior statement.

Reported over an hour ago but haven't seen it posted here.

Boston student from China is the third dead victim. RIP dude. All love and respect you you and your family.

www.boston.com...

MM

Originally posted by Cbell77

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by MCSQUARED1

 

So because a guy ran away from a blast he is a suspect? Haha

I understand they gotta look at all angles, but I would wager money that they were remote detonated and the perp was not in harm's way.

I agree with you on this one, However it should still be investigated. I really doubt that the perp would be close by his bomb/bombs when they went off.

yeah i agree, whoever built them had to know the effect they would have if they were nearby...even if it was not as high tech as other improvised munitions or home made bombs...it still was scary enough...

here is a video of the blast from one of the runners cameras...

its LOUD...

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

That's what I figured. My radar says connected. Explosions at libraries have to be one of the last things in the world I would be worried about during day to day activities.

To have such a rare occurrence happen in the same city half an hour after two bombs went off is too big a coincidence for me to accept.

Hugs back!

I have issues there as well! While scanning the thread here, also have done a little looking into the library incident. Here - Boston Globe story - I found this:

The fire broke out shortly before 3 p.m. — around the same time as the Marathon explosions several miles away — in an HVAC system in a section of the complex opened in 2011 that houses offices, a classroom, and some archival material, said Rachel Flor, a library spokeswoman.

“There was a fire, and it’s still unclear how it began,” Flor told reporters. “We did hear something that sounded like an explosion.”

Throughout the afternoon, library officials emphasized the blaze appeared to a “mechanical fire.”

Thomas Putnam, the library’s director, told reporters around 4 p.m. that a bomb squad was coming in as a precautionary measure in light of the Marathon blasts.

But by evening, Davis appeared to back away from his earlier statement, saying only that authorities were investigating at the scene. “The preliminary investigation indicates the JFK incident may not have been an explosion. It may have been a fire,” Davis said.

But then the flames abruptly grew very large and the smoke turned from white to black. Benton compared the sudden escalation to the lighting of a barbecue grill.

From The Boston Herald -

The cause of the fire was still under investigation last night, but police said the damage at the library may have been caused by a fire or “an incendiary” device.

...and from a site called RT -

Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis now says the 4:30PM library incident was in all likelihood not related to the Marathon explosions. It has been described as a mechanical fire from an "incendiary device", rather than a blast. An investigation is underway and a connection to the earlier Boston Marathon blast has still not been firmly ruled out.

So, from what I can gather, the ONLY reason they are stating this wasn't a related incident is the type of device used. If this was an incendiary device, and not a bomb, it was still deliberate, and the timing suggests a possible connection. I can understand them saying they can't prove one, but I think it's premature to state with any degree of certainty that there is NOT a connection.

I am of the same mindset as you on that issue. Two events, that close in timing and location, seems too much to believe it is simply a coincidence. I don't do well with "coincidence" anyway. For this to be one stretches credulity far past the breaking point.

Originally posted by RandyJood
Please repost this link, basically the UM coach said she heard loudspeakers announcing: "its just a drill. do not worry." www.local15tv.com... this supports your prior statement.

Interesting and added to more reports of others saying they heard the same thing across twitter and facebook and various unconfirmed outlets or groups.

As requested I just posted that link to my friends in other places. Hugs bro!

Interesting.

EDITIED TO ADD: It is very normal for dogs to be deployed for public events and I would expect officers to say the things this man reports hearing due to people maybe being freaked out. But still. Interesting.

MM

Making further speculative updates as per page 47 and page 111...

Someone knows who did this...

Rick DesLauriers...Special Agent in charge of Boston's FBI office.

By this quote it would seem they already have a working profile as to who they are looking for, and it would further indicate the act to be 'homegrown terrorism' (I use the word 'terrorism' very loosely in this case, as I feel pretty sure this has nothing to do with international terrorism). So, I'm still going to go with the thoughts I posted on page 111 of this thread, but now leaning towards one person.

The fact that the FBI are trying to reconstruct the bombs negates known professional bomb builds, and places emphasis on amateur construction, and most likely the work of a local or locals of the city?

There was no specific target, anyone and everyone was a target. The explosions occurred within 12 seconds of each other separated by a distance of 50 to 100 yards, and I would estimate that both devices were planted within 15 to 20 minutes of each other. The bomber or bombers could not know time-wise when the winning runner would cross the finish line, although a circumspect search on the internet would give approximate timings of around the 2 hour mark from start of race...for maximum crowd presence at the finish line. The event was targetted for its crowd.

I had first thought that each explosion was meant to scatter people towards the other explosion, hence the delay between them, but may also simply be to give the bomber time to get out of the way? I still think that the devices were not intended to kill people primarily, but more to maim and (maybe) amputate, providing a possible motive of the bomber or bombers to have something to do with disability? It's a sporting event, full of fit and very able-bodied people, and so it may be possible that the grudge driving the motive is about bringing people into an understanding about the bomber's own (or someone close to them) condition of probable disability? A straight up motive of simply wanting to hurt people is just too simplistic.

The media will not be given all the details known so as not to alert the bomber that the authorities are closing in. Details will be omitted and false details inserted in order to filter out false claimants to the attack. So becareful with what you take from the media.

Again, this is pure speculation...it is not fact!

reply to post by Mr Mask

Thanks man! I would've posted as thread, however, this account is brand new and cannot make threads. please spread. Thank you. This must get out.

reply to post by restlessinMT
Makes me wish i was in montana.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Ya...Like I said...the report is enough to get me thinking, but there is so much all in the air right now. I do thank you or all those links n quotes. "a device" sounds a lil intentional to me as well. And my radar is all nutty on the Library thing right now.

But you just added some food for thought there so thank you.

PS-Love the Avatar.

MM

Wait.. I don't think this was a false flag!

How ridiculous!

I was pointing out how weird it was that there was an explosion and fire in the library at the same time in the same day.

That's it.

I don't think this was a false flag.

And I thought it was eerie that general had predicted this sort of IED bomb last July---he was right.

I posted that because it was interesting not for any other reason.

Jeez.

I think YOU"RE the ones who are being paranoid here. I never said I thought it was a false flag.

Originally posted by SMR

Originally posted by ManiShuck
Here's the image that started that pictures circulation. The poster doesn't even know the difference between Dawn (Hochsprung, the new principal) and Donna (Page, the old/deceased principal).

edit on 16-4-2013 by ManiShuck because: (no reason given)

Neither do you.
Dawn Hochsprung died at Sandy Hook. Donna Page is the new Principal.

edit on 4/16/2013 by SMR because: Stuff

Oh well. Point was, they are two different people and the person who created the image acts as though they are the same.

Sorry if this was posted already, but what do people think of this supposed picture of the bomb before the blast

www1.whdh.com...

reply to post by elysiumfire


Good thinking stream there. Another poster posted this earlier today and I found it to be a very interesting link from "DEBKA" saying the believe they know who did this. They suggest radicals from Saudi/Yeman areas and detail why in the linked article.

www.debka.com...

If anyone is unaware of who or what DEBKA is, here is the wiki for you to judge the source on your own time and levels. Israeli news group. FORBES has stated in the past "the best part of DEBKA is its archives, but much is from undisclosed sources". Take all that how you will.

en.wikipedia.org...

I post this only in a return to the possibility that this may end up being "reported" as a middle eastern attack, not a homegrown. But again, speculation and only thinking along side all.

EDITED TO ADD: I AM 100% with you on thinking the FBI has way more info than being let out. And that is standard procedure in most bomb attacks of our recent past from Oklahoma to the UNAbomber. And I agree its for the same reason you state above. No need to tip the criminal(s) off on all they know. Poker hands are meant to be held so the other player can't see your cards.

MM

I'm wondering about 2 theories that seem plausible. First, I'm wondering about an anti-taxation slant. We already know Americans are literally taxed even in death. Could this have been a symbolic anti-taxation bombing at a very large gathering on Tax Day, in Boston (site of the infamous Boston Tea Party) to protest, albeit ridiculously violently, excessive taxes? They don't call Massachusetts "Taxachusetts" for nothing. It could have been against federal taxes, or local state taxes. That's plausible.

The other being the disgruntled vet theory that was mentioned up thread a ways. This I could see being equally plausible, if not more so the more I think about it. What if we are in fact looking for a very bitter, angry, violent ex-military or two? Could this be the work of someone who was denied conscientious objector status and made to go overseas anyway, possibly losing a limb or being severely maimed in some other way while there? I could see this being a "look what you put me through" lashing out. I really can. A totally unhinged vet bent on literally sharing his or her pain is very plausible to me.

Any more news on the "drill" announcement right before the explosion? I'm also interested to see if this is an actual terrorist or a fall guy. My guess is they'll pull a right wing nut out of the woods and pin it on him.

Also, I wonder how long before we have a bill that will ban pressure cookers.

Please forgive me, and I apologize if it has been posted before. I've been trying to keep up with this fast moving, hundred plus page thread....

One common recurring post seems to be thinking that the "drill" shows some kind of conspiracy.

I wish I could find a link (I'll keep looking), but in one of the TV interviews with a law enforcement agency, it was reported that they DID have intelligence that there could be an attack at the marathon.

The report said that there was actually an attack planned on the New York marathon which was cancelled due to Hurricane Sandy. Their intelligence showed the plan was then to target the Boston marathon instead.

So, the bomb-sniffing dogs and extra security were not there as a drill, but that is what they told everyone to prevent a panic. They really were looking for bombs.

Fox News trying to tie in Ricin congressional letter to the Boston bombing. Current "Inspire" issue has a Ricin article in the margin of page 56. Media has already begun to cite the DIY pressure cooker article in the first issue.

providing a possible motive of the bomber or bombers to have something to do with disability? It's a sporting event, full of fit and very able-bodied people, and so it may be possible that the grudge driving the motive is about bringing people into an understanding about the bomber's own (or someone close to them) condition of probable disability? A straight up motive of simply wanting to hurt people is just too simplistic.

reply to post by elysiumfire

I had similar thought that perhaps it was a disgruntled runner who had ended up with a disability and couldn't run anymore, or that it could be one of those runners that had been disqualified in the past for cheating etc.. perhaps their lives have gone straight downhill and they snapped!

Of course, I can't shake the 15th and tax day from my mind. Almost like if I had spidey sense, it would be screaming Look Here!!!

Motive is still anyone's guess and up to solid sleuthing to find out.

reply to post by thisguy
So, how did that bag get there?? I dont quite understand how there were so many people who didnt notice some "random" person dropping a "random" bag.

I guess it could happen.

BlueAjah I'm wondering the same thing.