Father Sickened By Anti-Constitutional Note From Son’s School

It's just possible that they wrote this on the board for discussion and encouraged the students to discuss it with their parents. After all, that is what we are doing as a nation, trading our rights for false security. The instigators may be against such a trade and trying to highlight this. Just a thought.

I suspect the "I am" is backwards. context is important.

Taking it at face value is too low hanging fruit. might as well say "I think we should use the elderly for a fuel source" on how objectionable it is from every side of the aisle...so ya, going to say there is no context here (or even if it is just a false story/slander)..will be over there not weighing in until actual facts come out.

But..feel free to keep waving your torches and pitchforks in the meantime. you seem to like doing that.

Originally posted by intrepid
Got an update and it's going to piss a lot of people off. Stinks massively:

[Update] The teachers in the stories above haven't been fired, but another one was for "illicit Bible conveyance," for giving an inquisitive student a Bible.

And a good thing too. It's not the job of a teacher to be issuing religious texts to students when that religious text is not part of a wider class.
Teachers have no place promoting any religion to students, in any way. Religious education in schools should cover everything or nothing. It should be about the facts, not opinions.

If I were that teacher, and an "inquisitive" student came to me to ask for a Bible or discussion about religion outside of a class, I would direct them to the library, or advise them to seek that information from a church, friend or family member outside of the education system.

State employees should not be promoting any religion in a secular society.

we'll be seeing this on snopes soon

lol

reply to post by Rocker2013

And a good thing too. It's not the job of a teacher to be issuing religious texts to students when that religious text is not part of a wider class. Teachers have no place promoting any religion to students, in any way. Religious education in schools should cover everything or nothing. It should be about the facts, not opinions. If I were that teacher, and an "inquisitive" student came to me to ask for a Bible or discussion about religion outside of a class, I would direct them to the library, or advise them to seek that information from a church, friend or family member outside of the education system. State employees should not be promoting any religion in a secular society.

it may be your prerogative to "direct them to the library" but a student asking questions about a religion, and a teacher answering is not illegal or wrong.

you seem to be laboring under the delusion that "separation of church and state" is in the constitution, it isn't. furthermore the student was the one asking, the teacher merely gave them the text that they could get anywhere.

also, claiming that our society is secular is far from true. the polls show "our society" firmly supports the idea of a god.

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.

www.gallup.com...

The longview from Gallup: "Some 78% of Americans today believe that God had a hand in the development of humans in some way, just slightly less than the percentage who felt this way 30 years ago. All in all, there is no evidence in this trend of a substantial movement toward a secular viewpoint on human origins."

reason.com...
46% believe in creationism while 32% believe god guided evolution.

Originally posted by Vasa Croe
If I found that in my kids backpacks I would be at that school demanding to know why my child was told to write something like that and demanding for that teacher to be fired as well as getting a complete curriculum for what is taught in class. That is unbelievable.

If we all get together i wonder just how many teachers would be out of work.
GOV taught the teachers now TEACHERS are TEACHING the Young.
I am a janitor that means i would be outta work also but i would sacrifice my job for a much better informed public.
As in children that will grow up to lead this country this world.
It's a crying shame that the GOV has done us in.

I swear my kid who's 7 almost 8 now has learned more on her own from the Khan Academy than she has in the 3yrs she has been in the public school system here in B.C. I just wish her mother had more time and wasen't needed to work or else there would be no public school system at all for her.

I find this sickining as one of the guys on my twitter feed says the public school system is only around now as a tool for indoctrination, and building good little servents.

SaneThinking

Khan Academy Link

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


I respect your right to worship as you see fit and I personally have no problem teaching biblical doctrine in school as long as all are included. However, I cannot understand how 1,018 polled out of 313,914,040 can be seen as a mandate to support your majority premise.

Penny

These ultra liberals are on the edge of fascism. America has to stop these nut cases from the right and the left. This moron teacher has no business teaching. If she does not understand freedom let her go teach in China

reply to post by Bioshock

“I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.”

The purpose of public education is to *TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION TO BE SLAVES*


For the Land of the "SAFE"
And the Home of the *SLAVE*


FREEDOM means that you get to DEFINE "Safe", as opposed to the government telling you what "SAFE" means.

The jews were rounded up and put in concentration camps for their "SAFETY"

Hint, Hint, Godwined, Hint.

reply to post by Bioshock


What I don't understand is why I have to give up more rights at all. I don't see any new benefits coming down the pipeline, in fact quite the contrary. I see a reduction of benefits and higher taxes and less rights. This country is headed in the wrong direction.

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by Bioshock

This "teacher" should be fired immediately. You're there to educate students, not push your screwed up liberal agenda.

First, grow up, it's not a "Liberal agenda", if that were the case how do you explain a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT rolling out the Patriot Act?!

Chill out. It is easily explained by the stone cold fact that the R or D next to a politicna's name only calls out which party they belong to (thus the term you're foolishly throwing in here "partisan") and realy says nothing about their political ethos. That REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT who rolled out the Patriot Act was a liberal, AKA a marginalized Republican. Fact remains he was less liberal than the boondoggle currently occupying both sides of DC... but he was still a liberal Republican.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by Bioshock

This "teacher" should be fired immediately. You're there to educate students, not push your screwed up liberal agenda.

First, grow up, it's not a "Liberal agenda", if that were the case how do you explain a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT rolling out the Patriot Act?!

Chill out. It is easily explained by the stone cold fact that the R or D next to a politicna's name only calls out which party they belong to (thus the term you're foolishly throwing in here "partisan") and realy says nothing about their political ethos. That REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT who rolled out the Patriot Act was a liberal, AKA a marginalized Republican. Fact remains he was less liberal than the boondoggle currently occupying both sides of DC... but he was still a liberal Republican.

A better explaination, in this instance, at least, and one which says more using less words,
…would be to say that they are both traitors.

That said, I'd take the Liberal Republican Traitor from Texas over the Fascist Democrat Traitor from … who on Earth knows, any day of the week, lol.

This may be entirely off topic, but I am wondering why so many Americans place so much faith into the Constitution? Essentially, it is a man made document, made in an entirely different era and environment, that isn't as well equipped to deal with modern issues as the Common Law is.

A constitution is essential to any democracy, but the US constitution may be the least flexible and most all-encompassing constitution in existence. For instance, in Australia, the only thing the national constitution addresses is the division of powers, the duties and responsibilities of each form of government (the executive, legislature and the judiciary) as well as the powers of the States.

State constitutions themselves may address the issue of rights, however many do not. The common law and legislature are the primary sources of citizens rights in this respect, with great emphasis on the common law. While it is still slow to change, the Common law is capable of evolving with society, where a constitution that is rarely amended is not.

Moreover, as the constitution is man made, it is flawed in some respects, especially considering the fact that despite that it protected men's rights, slavery still continued afterwards. It is strange that Americans place so much emphasis on the constitution, rather than the state of the Nation and injustices which are occurring in it. It seems that Americans seem to almost believe it was written by a divine entity, it seems so illogical to me.

reply to post by bluesman1955


Being a janitor you must be aware that all parents have the right to review the planned curriculum for the upcoming year, and to address such curriculum during school board meetings. As a former PTO pres. I was and am shocked at the low attendance by parents at school board meetings in general. I am curious, What are your observations if any as to the attendance and participation of parents in your district ?

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by Bioshock

This "teacher" should be fired immediately. You're there to educate students, not push your screwed up liberal agenda.

First, grow up, it's not a "Liberal agenda", if that were the case how do you explain a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT rolling out the Patriot Act?!

I'm sick of this maniacal partisan rubbish! Both parties are bad in different ways, but so many completely ignore the same acts by their own party politicians when it suits them, throwing around words like "communist" and "socialist" when their own conservative leaders have done things that would be considered that!

Tell me, what is so conservative about a Republican president bailing out bankers and corporations? That right there is SOCIALISM.

Now that is out of the way, I agree that there is no place in education for this kind of nonsense. There is enough indoctrination from both sides in America as it is! Why can't people just let their kids be kids instead of using them for political point scoring?

All well and good but none of it addresses the issue. Its somebodys gosh danged agend! Whatever it is its certainly not an american agenda. And to be sure as slick it wasnt a conservative at work here.

* if many of you havent noticed.....this is the new tactic to throw the issue. Drudge up some republican hypocrisy to get the issue in a state of flux.

reply to post by pennylemon


Its like talking to bricks in the wall.

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant


Moreover, as the constitution is man made, it is flawed in some respects, especially considering the fact that despite that it protected men's rights, slavery still continued afterwards. It is strange that Americans place so much emphasis on the constitution, rather than the state of the Nation and injustices which are occurring in it. It seems that Americans seem to almost believe it was written by a divine entity, it seems so illogical to me.

We got around to that.....and just a whole lot of folks died over here to fix that problem. I wonder if the teacher in question had said something about blacks giving up thier rights how long she would last? They would burn her at the stake.

It was written in blood whatever we or the constitution can say about an entity. It seems illogical because yous are a bunch of royal boot lickers.

By the way your post is rubbish.

Here is a photo of the note...
This makes me sick



If I were to find this note in my kids backpack, I would have lost my mind.

they need to brain wash the children to pass the agenda.....destroy the constitution and turn over soverenty to the UN for a one world government!