Why the heck did so many people vote for Bush?

No, not attacking.

I just have a clearer picture of what is actually going on in the world. I don't base my opinions on theories and conspriracies.

And, money is not the root of all evil. Ignorance is. It is also bliss

If you come to canada
I must warn you....we are against war, we are low profile, we are not religious, we have no military, we have gay marriages, we have abortion...we don't have a lot of Obesity, we HATE politics and don't give a # about it and all other nations like our population...

I realise that I LOVE CANADA!!!!!!!

If you come in Canada you have to keep it that way and accept our way of living

Good luck to all americans who r stuck with a moron for 4 more years and I tell you again...I love Canada

Amelia

CA, all Governments poke their noses into other countries politics. I am talking about individuals that are not a citizen of America that are bashing Americans for the way they voted. First off you do not really know the issues since you do not live in the US, just like I do not know your political issues were you live.

Aelita, for some reason non-Americans think they have the right to bash Americans for how they voted. How would you like it if I told you were stupid for voting for a leader in your country when I do not even live there. I could not possibly know all of the issues involved with the election so I could not make an educated accusation about the people that voted for that leader. And who cares were the web site is located the logic above still applies.

Amelia, the reason you do not have a bigger military is because the US has you covered. With America protecting your country you can afford to not have a military. You are welcome. If people voted to allow the legal murder of un-born children in your country that to me would not be considered a bragging point for my Country.


If Americans are so dumb then why are we the sole super power in the world. Is it because everyone else is dumber?

So LostSailor, you don't think money corrupts? You think money is not evil? One of the reasons this world is the way it is is becouse of money. I suggest you look back into history and see what most wars were fought over. Money.

First, I do not believe all conspiracies and theries. Second the truth always start out as conspiriacies and theries. Remember when it came out that bush actually had prior warnings about 9/11? Remember the FBI agents that tried to warn the president and the cia? Well that started out as a conspiracy.

I am not trying to personally attack you but your last post implied that I was ignorant. I am not, I just know how to read between the lines, think outside the box. I do not listen to everything I am told. I question authority. Most important, I do not trust my government. Unlike you who seems to like being herded everywhere. I bet you get your news from fox and cnn don't you.

I am just a normal(relatively speaking) joe. I do not drive a bmw nor do I live in a half million dollar home. I bring home under 50k a year, I have a wife and I am happy. I brought myself from the street to where I am today.

And after everything I have learned and experienced I would choose poverty over riches. Why, becouse poor people understand how life really works and are not corrupted by money. They understand being rich is not having thousands or even millions in the bank. Being rich is about love and respect, Friends and family. So call me ignorant if it makes you feel better and bigger than me. I know and understand the truth.

No... money isn't evil, how can it be? It has no soul, no mind, no heart. You can do good things with money or bad things. Yes, America is a capitalist country, if that makes us evil in your eyes then thats your problem.

I'm sorry to hear you have no faith in our government. That means you have no faith in American people either.

Save me the humble poor man routine, it won't work on me. I paid my own way through college, a maritime academy actually, and made my own money too. Yes, my job as a marine engineer does pay quite a bit more than 50k a year, does that make me evil? I donate to charities on a regular basis and am currently helping a sibling through college. I don't mind helping my family out, but I do mind paying taxes to help some low-life that doesn't want to work hard to succeed. SOmeone that decides "why work? The government will give me money."

You've read many of my posts I'm sure, so I won't go further into details. I'm also sure that you wouldn't agree with me on many things I have to say anyways. I read between the lines also, but I guess I can see the good points of living in the USA. Its much easier to see the bad points because they are thrust at you on a continous basis by media, liberals, and disgruntled Americans.

I'm sorry but I won't bash my president or my country.

[edit on 5-11-2004 by LostSailor]

Why the heck did so many people vote for Bush ?

Because , the people want, The LORD WISH

regards chapo

I figured you made more than 50k a year. I can tell by your attitude. Especially when you say that money isn't evil. I am not trying to give you the humble poor person routine either. I actually have been on both sides of the coin. I still would choose to not be rich.

So are you calling every poor person or homeless person a low life? I hope not becouse most would work if they could. Remember, it is not as easy as you think to get a job when you are living in poverty. Mainly becouse of people like you, generalising as saying they are low lifes. Not wanting to give them a chance.

Do not get me wrong either, I love this country. But as an american citizen it is my responsibility to question and to not trust the government. The moment we stop questioning they will take advantage of the situation. There is a reason we have a constitution. That reason is to stop tyranny from happening.

You are correct to say that I am loosing faith in the american people. I am. It's all about me, me, me. I think people have become wrapped up too much in money and themselves and forgotten about the community. Now I am not saying you need to give to charity, or share the wealth but people just do not know what community is anymore. Everybody wants to drive around in thier fancy cars and live in thier big great houses and give to charity. How about getting your hands dirty instead. Charity only goes so far. It is the easy way out. You can write it off at the end of the year. You want to impress me, give up a christmas and go work in a soup kitchen. Drive meals on wheels. What I have done in the past is made sandwiches and meals and went around and fed the homeless. No I cannot write it off at the end of the year but oh well. That is how you help someone. Oh yeah, do it annonamously also. Most people want to be rewarded. Why, becouse it makes them feel better to know someone nows what they did. Me self gratification is all I need. Oh yeah, the thank you and the HUGE smile on that person's face as you drive away. Nothing like it in the world.

And I am sorry, I will continue to question, bash and whatever else I wish to my president and government. Why? Becouse it is my right. It is my responsibility. I protect and love my constitution, that is where my priorities are. Not my government. They do not care about me, they make 150,000 a year plus have the best health care around. Why should they care about you and me. They show us what we need to see to elect them and stay in office. After that, they worry about themselves.

I refuse to be herded.

Significant Ongoing Armed Conflicts, 2004
Main warring parties Year
began1
Middle East
U.S. and UK vs. Iraq 2003
Israel vs. Palestinian Authority/Hamas/Hezbollah/Palestinian separatists 1948
Asia
Afghanistan: U.S., UK, and Coalition Forces vs. al-Qaeda and Taliban 2001
India vs. Kashmiri separatist groups/Pakistan 1948
India vs. Assam insurgents (various) 1979
Indonesia vs. Aceh separatists2 1976
Indonesia vs. Christians and Muslims in Molucca Islands 1977
Indonesia vs. Irian Jaya separatists 1969
Nepal vs. Maoist rebels 1995
Philippines vs. Mindanaoan separatists
(MILF/ASG) 1971
Africa
Algeria vs. Armed Islamic Group (GIA) 1991
Burundi: Tutsi vs. Hutu 1988
Democratic Republic of Congo and allies vs. Rwanda, Uganda, and indigenous rebels3 1997
Somalia vs. rival clans 1991
Sudan vs. Dafur rebel groups 2003
Uganda vs. Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) 1986
Europe
Russia vs. Chechen separatists 1994
Latin America
Colombia vs. National Liberation Army (ELN) 1978
Colombia vs. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) 1978
Colombia vs. Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC) 1990


Yes GBW is the bad guy, and the world is a peaceful place

Well, I'll bet there are a lot of things you have troubled understanding if you find yourself "reliefed" more than occasionally. Of course when you believe that a contest of speeches is an accurate measure of a man's ability to lead no level of stupidity you exhibit can suprise me. Americans are stupid, yes, they are called Kerry supporters an the smart Americans like me would be glad to send them to whatever socio-fascistic paradise they want to, not only because they tend to be underproductive and annoying but also because it would increase the nations security by a sizable measure. Thankfully we have a majority of smart Americans out there, and thankfully enough Americans have awaken since 9-11 to realize that running is not an option, and that is the message that George W. Bush's election sends to the world. The world was eager to see America turn in an endorsment of the importance of world opinion in the form of a Kerry presidency and so was the entire news media, as evident in the look and sound of shocked bewilderment as though they awoke after a nuclear holocaust, but thankfully America did the right thing and voted on the side of America's interest. Terrorism is not a nuisance it is a scourge that should be purged from the Earth, and I'm not simply talking about the tactic of terrorism, I speak of the twisted evil ideology that utilizes terror in an effort to subjugate the world to their beliefs. That is what this election was about, that is the task of this generation and in re-electing President Bush America has demonsrated that it is up to the task despite the vocal minority of cowards that the world loves.

evilconservative at the risk of getting myself banned,
you are one close minded ignorant son of a.

That is all I need to say to you.

"Terrorism is not a nuisance it is a scourge that should be purged from the Earth, and I'm not simply talking about the tactic of terrorism, I speak of the twisted evil ideology that utilizes terror in an effort to subjugate the world to their beliefs"


.... right! hahaha

All I can say is OUCH this topic made my head hurt.

Originally posted by aukaiman55

wtf�.how can you get him impeached�..when did Hawaii get this power�.what rules are these that technically say you could�.are those the rules in somebody�s diary?

The constitution states how a president can be impeached, and what a president must do to deserve it.

Any state can do it.

all by there little lonesomes, huh....wow, i must have missed that one.

[edit on 4-11-2004 by keholmes]

I don't know if this is true but some one sent this to me, not sure if its true though.


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Draw your own conclusions about education vs. votes

.......................................AVG IQ.....AVG Income.....'04 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113 $26,979 Kerry
(2) Massachusetts................111 $24,059 Kerry
(3) New Jersey...................111 $26,457 Kerry
(4) New York.....................109 $23,534 Kerry
(5) Rhode Island.................107 $20,299 Kerry
(6) Hawaii.......................106 $21,218 Kerry
(7) Maryland.....................105 $22,974 Kerry
(8) New Hampshire................105 $22,934 Kerry
(9) Illinois.....................104 $21,608 Kerry
(10) Delaware....................103 $21,451 Kerry
(11) Minnesota...................102 $20,049 Kerry
(12) Vermont.....................102 $18,834 Kerry
(13) Washington..................102 $20,398 Kerry
(14) California..................101 $21,278 Kerry
(15) Pennsylvania................101 $20,253 Kerry
(16) Maine.......................100 $18,226 Kerry
(17) Wisconsin...................100 $18,727 Kerry
(18) Virginia....................100 $20,629 Bush
(19) Iowa.........................99 $18,287 Kerry
(20) Oregon.......................99 $18,202 Kerry
(21) Colorado.....................99 $20,124 Bush
(22) Michigan.....................99 $19,508 Bush
(23) Nevada.......................99 $20,266 Bush
(24) Ohio.........................99 $18,624 Bush
(25) Alaska.......................98 $21,603 Bush
(26) Florida......................98 $19,397 Bush
(27) Missouri.....................98 $18,835 Bush
(28) Kansas.......................96 $19,376 Bush
(29) Nebraska.....................95 $19,084 Bush
(30) Arizona......................94 $17,119 Bush
(31) Indiana......................94 $18,043 Bush
(32) Tennessee....................94 $17,341 Bush
(33) North Carolina...............93 $17,667 Bush
(34) West Virginia................93 $15,065 Bush
(35) Arkansas.....................92 $15,439 Bush
(36) Georgia......................92 $18,130 Bush
(37) Kentucky.....................92 $16,534 Bush
(38) New Mexico...................92 $15,353 Bush
(39) North Dakota.................92 $16,854 Bush
(40) Texas........................92 $17,892 Bush
(41) Alabama......................90 $16,220 Bush
(42) Louisiana....................90 $15,712 Bush
(43) Montana......................90 $16,062 Bush
(44) Oklahoma.....................90 $16,198 Bush
(45) South Dakota.................90 $16,558 Bush
(46) South Carolina...............89 $15,989 Bush
(47) Wyoming......................89 $17,423 Bush
(48) Idaho........................87 $16,067 Bush
(49) Utah.........................87 $15,325 Bush
(50) Mississippi..................85 $14,088 Bush

Originally posted by jmilici
How about getting your hands dirty instead. Charity only goes so far. It is the easy way out. You can write it off at the end of the year.

Does Habitat for Humanity count? Yes, when not working, I sometimes have 3-4 months off straight. I could either further fuel my already burning thirst for alcohol. ( I am a sailor) Or keep my hands busy building homes for "less fortunate" here in Northern Michigan.

No I don't think all poor people are low-lifes, you generalized my comment there. Mental health problems make many of the reasons "bums" cant get jobs. We just have different ideas of how this should be dealt with.

psteel,

I don't claim to be an intellectual.

now if you can show me a list just like that one that has the I.Q. averaged into the population of that state. Im confusing myself again.

Of course those states with higher populations are going to have higher average I.Q.'s

See what I'm getting at here? Because I'm to drunk to figure it out myself.

Originally posted by enoc2g
whoever thinks that bush united us at 911 and is actually a good president, is out of there minds, brainwashed, lacking a conscience and a soul. This man is pure evil !! it was ok when his father sold the WMDs to saddam so he could gas the kurds, the cia, and other high level secret organizations installed saddam, they installed bin laden, they install these dictators its called problem, reation, solution, everyhitng they tell who is a lie.

Cheney is curropt to the core, his company haliburton is robbing us for billions, one of the reason bush wanted to invade IRAQ is for there OIL also saddam was going to switch to euros instead of dollars, foreign countrys are pulling out of the dollar thats way the dollar is down big time and the euro is stronger.

Bush/Illuminati look that word up the dictionary its in there (Illuminati) ultimate goal is to use america to destroy america, kerry was just a front hes skull and bones too there both brothers fighting for the same cause namely NWO !! wake up folks these poeple orchastrated 911 bin laden is a CIA asset look at the sick # there were doing to the prisoners at ABU GHARIB sex torture that Bush and Cheneys form of porn.

America symbolizes the phoenix thats what the eagle represents on the dollar bill, NAZIs and Roman empire also had an eagle too. the phoenix is burned then rises from the ashed and is ressurected out of americas death. AKA end of constitution the NWO will emerge. Bush is not a christian thats a front, jesus told people to love there enemies not bomb innocent women and children.

Also the attacks in 93 were allowed to happen, the FBI had infiltrated that terror cell and actually helped the terrorist perform the attacks!!! so some research you see its true , but they wont mention that on the mind controlled news. YOU and I are the enemies there is terrorist, Bush , ISREAL , ENGLAND are the real terrorist there the ones who kill, rape and enslave the whole world, dont let the illusion of socalled american freedom
fool you.

things will be getting extremely worse when u least expect it!!

Hi! I think I love ya!!!!!!!!!!! How come THEY can't understand that!!!!!!!!!! Makes me wanna cry really and I understand that people live FOR MONEY, makes me sick, totally sick sick sick! How can they trust and beleive the republicans who actually is the cause for all this, the source of everything!

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"Makes me wanna cry really and I understand that people live FOR MONEY"


...hmm ... and they KILL masses of people for it too

Originally posted by Amelia
����� How come THEY can't understand that!!!!!!!!!! ����..

Largely you would have to blame that on logic and reason�..as soon as you twist facts to support your base argument, and then go on to extrapolate further �evidence� you will lose many.

For example the post a few up, here is the original and it is a distortion by a college student�.I wonder if he�s a liberal www-unix.oit.umass.edu...
And here is the full debunking of that tripe. The second entry in the first search�so the poster must have known and made the decision that the truth wasn�t nearly as interesting as the lie.
www.sq.4mg.com...

sigh......how come they don't understand.





[edit on 6-11-2004 by keholmes]

Originally posted by psteel
I don't know if this is true but some one sent this to me, not sure if its true though.
Draw your own conclusions about education vs. votes

.......................................AVG IQ.....AVG Income.....'04 Electoral
(1) Connecticut..................113 $26,979 Kerry
(2) Massachusetts................111 $24,059 Kerry
(3) New Jersey...................111 $26,457 Kerry
(4) New York.....................109 $23,534 Kerry
(5) Rhode Island.................107 $20,299 Kerry
(6) Hawaii.......................106 $21,218 Kerry

Sigh - it's not true and the orginator didn't even have the courtesy to update the information from the last time he hoaxed this in 2000. For your amusment:

Rank State AVG IQ AVG '94 Income 2000 election vote
(1) Connecticut..................113 \$26,979 Gore
(2) Massachusetts.............111 \$24,059 Gore
(3) New Jersey...................111 \$26,457 Gore
(4) New York......................109 \$23,534 Gore
(5) Rhode Island................107 \$20,299 Gore
(6) Hawaii..........................106 \$21,218 Gore

The actual iqs vary less than 10 points from state to state and there is no indication that iq affects your poltical affiliation. The debunking and real state iqs can be found here


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