USA will LOSE the war with NKorea, this thread will enter history

No real winners in any war, many young lives will be lost but the ones who write the History books will tell us they won.

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Logic..is...underated. Hey, you picked your name....

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Nice story.
Tell it to Readers Digest.(apologies to Dave Mustaine)

First,there will be no war with North Korea. At least,in the near future.

Second, China is not going to challenge US openly yet. They are not strong enough yet and their strength keeps growing while US strength is not.

Third, Russia is scared of growing Chinese power just as US is or possibly even more. Read a bit about demographics, borders, population density and history of two nations and you will understand why.

Forth, the only kind of history this thread is going to enter is browser one.

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Third, Russia is scared of growing Chinese power just as US is or possibly even more. Read a bit about demographics, borders, population density and history of two nations and you will understand why.

Very true.

For some reason people think Russia and China are allies which couldn't be further from the truth. Neither of them like the U.S. but they don't like each other either.

a little hard to be enemies with a nation you helped create. odds are, russia and the usa are buddies. not sure about china

Really-no-to both scenarios.

Everything in America was made in China. If China crashes the US dollar then what do you think would happen to their own economy?

What a cocky OP.... Thread will go down in history??? Talking about wanting to own the rights to it??? I'm sorry, but LOL.....

You're right though, China and Russia will strike the US once we put down that rabid dog . I think the OP has been watching one too many episodes of 24....

Originally posted by malchir "Clearly the OP is not American, therefore his words carry zero weight concerning a claim that the USA will lose at this or that at here or there"

using this logic, all non-North Koreans' opinions of North Korea are worthless.

Originally posted by justin366
Everything in America was made in China. If China crashes the US dollar then what do you think would happen to their own economy?

Exactly, China depends on the US to buy up all their crap, once that goes away, China goes away... A global economy means that many economies are dependent on one another and when one goes down you tend to see a domino effect. Maybe Cyprus collapsing (if it would have happened) wouldn't have been too damaging to the world, but take USA out of the equation and EVERY other country is screwed...

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For some reason people think Russia and China are allies which couldn't be further from the truth. Neither of them like the U.S. but they don't like each other either.

Living in south Australia I do not like Victoria very much, there is even some local rivalry with the nearby town the road. But the moment someone steps in to disrupt the delicate boarders that have been established they receive the attention of all parties. This is what the US is doing with forcing the Korea issue before it is ready.

Originally posted by LogicIsUnderrated
See that's the problem, neither is the eastern world stupid

Agreed, but North Korea is probably the most stupid, oppressive and dysfunctional regime around.

Originally posted by LogicIsUnderrated
Don't even try to engage in conversation with me if you think Putin attacked Chechnya first or if you think Tibet is a large problem for China

Agreed. Tibet is not a problem for China, but China is a very large problem for Tibet.

Russia and China are both autocratic with China being a one party dictatorship. Who knows what the average Chinese would think if the Chinese press was not so constrained and civil liberties so trodden upon.

Regards

always america the arrogant...a bet syria, iran and the other counties that used to be countries to cause doom are pretty happy about the NK taking pressure off them.....
the thinking that a war in korea would only last days is beyond ludicrous...but typical american chest thumping for sure. to think that the chineese would allow u.s. troops to run around Nk unhindered is wishfull thinking at best.i could see china stepping in to help u.s. troops stop the NK govt but then im pretty sure china would say..'thanks for the help but now..get out.' and in any military conflict...those that suffer the most are the civilians and the troops that fight...all us arm chair generals with our coca cola, the most we will suffer are snide remarks typed at us for our opinions.

no this is not a good situation, this could end very very badly. no matter what happens, you bet the major world powers are just waiting for the right time in this situation to use it to what ever advantage they can.

there is no 1 country on this planet that is needed..the world will go on with russia or china or NK or iran or syria or iraq or afganistan or yeman or bosnia ect ect..

there is only 1 country on this planet that is trying to impart its will, its way of life, its ideals, it idea of proper govt on other countries on this planet...and the world will go on without that country as well.....

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What an insulting and EGOIST thread title, it gets no better after opening the thread. You MUST be N. Korean.

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Originally posted by justin366
Everything in America was made in China. If China crashes the US dollar then what do you think would happen to their own economy?

china will sell their goods to countries who can afford to pay their debts , or to countries that something of actual trade .

china still sells to the usa because there is hundred of billions owed to china . they will get tired and give back the trillion in us treasury and finish the country economically . just like how we sell america oil and subsidizes 45 on a barrel , we want our money too , paying full price for oil would crash the country and we will never see our money that is owed , america is holding countries hostage by keep doing business with us or we will steal and keep the money they owe to everyone ( if I go down I am taking you all with me mentality )

America doesn't want our oil because it is dirty ( all oil is dirty WTH ) , well I say screw them china will by it full price , sadly we keep our dollar low reducing our quality of life to help your country from going under and yet they keep on stealing telling trade countries essentially to go eff themselves screw them let them live back in the dark age , or when their oil goes to 9 bucks a gallon from shortage and come whining back charge them double , supply in demand right . the world loses by trading to america sadly you don't see it

"A typical American has never experienced true danger at home" Really, because I remember living in Chicago on 9/11 and the city going crazy as planes were being crashed into buildings and were hijacked all over the US , and we did not know where they were going to strike next, like maybe a nuclear plant. We did not know if they had dirty bombs. Then I seem to remember a little thing called ANTHRAX. You are clearly are not an American.

As for China and Russia, they have pretty much had it with NKorea, I would post links for you, but I feel you need to do some research. The UN should come to a decision and take NKorea's Military out before they screw up the whole world!

Originally posted by kurthall
As for China and Russia, they have pretty much had it with NKorea, I would post links for you, but I feel you need to do some research. The UN should come to a decision and take NKorea's Military out before they screw up the whole world!

ever consider they are being two faced when tell the un they are fed up lol
make them look like an easy target , make it ripe for a land invasion while your country is pre occupied and deployed around korea

Originally posted by samlf3rd
U r joking right? a small unequipped country with flea market military gear is going to take down America? Our people have more guns than his entire army.

Not going to happen.

True. In part. Have you seen the NK, 50 year old Retired China submarine fleet? They look like the Japanese midget sub fleet from WWII. They'll need Bicarbonate of Soda Tablets to make them run. Like those little plastic submarines, we used to get in cereal boxes in the 50s.

This thread will not go down in history. It will eventually roll off the front page, and get lost in the myriad of other such threads on ATS.

Des

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mabye it will happend but i guess a other szenario.Of course North korea can not attack the USA with nuclear wappons,they have mabye a other more clever plan.I think when North Korea will attack the USA or South Korea it will be in the deep night and by a very very bad weather condition so that no warplan of the USA can start in this time for attack or defence,and they will start the war with ground troops.Beside for shure they have a lot of sleeper in the USA and they will activate them in the same time,example: they need only a coca cola bottel of pure plutonium powder and 1 man to rent in new york in the 30.floor a hotelroom and push the powder by a littel wind out the window there,finish!No need any kind of bombs in this case to destroy a big town! Really wars goes a differend ways in modern times,be aware some of bad tricks can be happend you never know!