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Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by olaru12
That strategy sure worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan, didn't it
I think most forget that the WAR part of the strategies worked very well. The regimes were toppled quickly. It's the POLICE actions after, that are time and resource consuming (and costs lives). If regime toppling is the mission, this again can be accomplished quickly, but trying to police people who don't want you there, is (obviously) a losing proposition from the start...and foolhardy.
As I brought up in another thread though, in this case, we topple the regime, police South Korea, and turn the North over to the ROK to police and rebuild. We keep troops in the area while they rebuild and get back up to speed, and let them take the risks. Instead of the Evil Americans in the area, they have a people that some of them are related to coming in, so instead of fighting, maybe they'll embrace them.
Originally posted by Flyers Fan
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Ok, NOW I'm really getting an ungood feeling here.
If you see US Army Japan troops activate and civilians being evac'd from Camp Zama and Kadena and Atsugi and Yokuska (etc) in Japan ... THEN you should get nervous. Then I'd say we are close. Their mission is to support S. Korea if anything were to happen. They'd be the first ones in ...
But right now .. it's all 'green' there and no civilian/dependent evac's.
I checked their websites.
Originally posted by johngrissom
Now, look that the US. All the bases on the coastline are AMC bases because if the US were to ever be invaded, we would have no need to transport cargo overseas at that point anymore and could for warn the inner states an invasion has begun. Thats why most bases in the inner states are fighters bases and thats why our bomber base is no where near any of that.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by Curio
The Washington is forward deployed to Japan, so she's always in the area. The rest of the fleet is in really bad shape, so there might not be much to send over there right now. The carriers have pushed off maintenance and routine things for so long, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
As of February 6, 2013, four carriers are in home port, one is undergoing a three-year refueling complex overhaul, one is undergoing emergency repairs, one is on a planned 6-month incremental availability pier side, and another is undergoing maintenance. That leaves the Stennis in the Arabian Sea and the Bush underway in the Atlantic, only two carriers at sea. That said, the USS Washington is forward deployed to Japan and is in home port there. The Navy says if budget cuts get much worse, she’ll be the only carrier able to respond to contingencies. (020713)
www.talkingproud.us...edit on 4/5/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by camaro68ss
God i really hope this dosent spin out of control.
What no one is thinking, if we do go to war with NK, China will have a great excuse to sale its 1 trillion dollars in US bonds. China needs a reason to sale those bonds and this is it! If that happens, say good bye to the US global reserve status. Welcome to the greatest depression.
reply to post by Zaphod58
The airmen of the 7th kept a bomber in the air over Afghanistan every moment of their deployment, according to an Air Force announcement, in the largest B-1 overseas deployment in 10 years.
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by Zaphod58
Ever since Carter, it's been our mandate (due to Iran), something continued under each President since. Former Admirals have all called for it to be rescinded, but it never has been, at least as recently as Jan of this year. This situation may have changed it though, and for all we know, one of them is either there or on the way...but yeah, most are in port being worked on, as they went WAY too long between scheduled maintenance due to missions. Will be nice once those Gerald Ford class ones are built though...but a ways off. I think the first will be ready in 2015.
The Stennis just finished a Singapore port call and now according to the Navy is in the 3rd Fleet AOR en route to Hawaii, San Diego and finally Bremerton Wa.
The Nimitz departed Everett Wa on 30 March. It arrived in San Diego Apr 2nd to pick up the air wing and departed Apr 3rd to do some final quals off the coast and deploy from there. .
The George Washington started a 6 month Selected Restricted Availability (SRA) maintenance period pier side in Yokosuka Japan on Feb 14th.
They have submarines, but IIRC the only one that can reach the US is the Whiskey class, which was originally built in the 1950s, and can only do it at like 11 knots. They're old, and noisy and would take forever to get there. The Whiskey has a 9000 mile range at 11 knots.