The Vatican & Aliens 2013: Unsealed Alien Files

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by BornOfSin

Also, I just read one of your replies and realised you're equally brainwashed

You talk about us all being subjected to Hell??

Earth is the highest universal equivalent to hell there is. We ARE in hell.

There are 7 spacial densities existing within this Universe, called the 7 heavens in the Bible. Once we die or when our planet goes through the Axiom core of the Universe (through the centre of our black hole) the 'intelligent design energy' that was required to be drawn from the Universal power to give us consciousness, will return to the Universe.

There is a Divine power. It governs everything in this Universe. Good, bad, black, white, Demon, Angel, Smart (me), Dumb (Christians), it doesn't matter. It is IN US. We ARE that power. We don't need to seek it as a personified diety, It is EVERYTHING, and we are part of this system of everything. Therefore 'God' as the divine power is in us all, as our existence.

Our life energy aggregate requires a higher level of energy intake than is passively provided to us through the universes radiation and waters, etc. So the Universes mircocosm providing life (Earth) constructs an intricate programmed network of neurons where this life energy field can coordinate to give it functions capable of providing the excess power requirements of the energy. This intelligence of necessity is self-aware ALSO by necessity. So that it can coordinate and provide the needs for the life-system 'body of energy' it is assigned to. Without 'self-awareness and attachment' to this body of life energy, there would be no understanding of 'need' concept in relation to sustaining it's life.

This CONSCIOUSNESS is given to us as part of far higher, and more complex energy structure within the universe. We merely LOAN our consciousness. It is always part of the one universal consciousness. Its just the allocation to physical self drives the unconscious forgetting of such.

Our dreams are merely this consciousness echoing the familiarity amongst so many others in our Galaxy, all of whom also share this one consciousness.

The SUPERCONSCIOUS, is the actual Universal source of this energy. This is Divinity, THIS IS GOD! This is the ONLY TRUE DIVINE POWER!! All others Gods, IN ALL RELIGIONS, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE of History, have all simply been established so that we as humans can undestand the CONCEPT of divinity and to install moralistic and ethical life.

These are NO literal Gods, they are MODELED ON PAGAN ASTROLOGICAL MYTHS, cause they are created to teach us of the true Divinity of the Universe.

I have attached to this consciousness. It merely takes an understanding of the superconscious to be able to connect with it.

The part I find most scary, is with it ... things such as ESP/telepathy/mind-reading and thought suggestion become possible, As I am pretty sure most pseudosciences are in a wholly connected cyclic model as I am seeing evidence that things like telekinesis are possible from personal experience with it.

reply to post by BornOfSin


godaaaamn dude it must hurt being so smart haha,but seriously i found your ideas fascinating how exactly did you develop such a concept for existance/life?

vatican wants to stay relevant in the future...

that is all there is to it...

lol

their days are numbered as Human wake up

I wouldn't doubt that the Vatican is covering up some UFO information, why would they want to lose dominance over the masses?

Also, to whoever said it... just to put my own thoughts:

People are not naturally inclined to be religious or to be followers, we are taught that way from birth. There is nothing magical or supreme in the predisposition to accept authority and propaganda. Blame parents, blame schools, but there's no slave gene. Spankings, school propaganda, respect based on status not credentials or proof are just examples. Most of what we are was cultivated in the first five years of our life and further paddled into us in one way or another throughout life.

Now back to the topic:

I would hope that if aliens were the ones referenced in the bible that they would be Lucifer or the serpent and not the traditional god of the bible. I had much rather have an entity that teaches knowledge and gives people the ability to make decisions than some mass murderer that condones rape and genocide.

I am bothered by the fact that whatever entities have been spotted seem to be interested in the Vatican and major governments. Both government and religion are evil and immoral as they take away a person's right to themselves.

Originally posted by ghoul138
reply to post by BornOfSin

 

godaaaamn dude it must hurt being so smart haha,but seriously i found your ideas fascinating how exactly did you develop such a concept for existance/life?

They were 'gifted' to me by very tall, muscular lizards .. Some with anger management issues .. Although most are surprisingly friendly when you consider they are basically a bipedal short-nosed crocodile.

Originally posted by cornucopia
vatican wants to stay relevant in the future...

that is all there is to it...

lol

their days are numbered as Human wake up

Very correct. They are attempting to align themselves prior to the upcoming shift which they are well aware of in order to maintain their power of dominion.

I can assure you .. VERY DEFINITIVELY .. that the visitors arriving in 2015 will not allow this to happen.

Vatican and religion are high order on their hit-list of 'Disciplinam Clementia'

There will be no religion on Earth by 2020.

reply to post by LadyofGlass


The serpent was the one that gave us knowledge. The Sumerian history called him Enki. His brother EnLil (Lord of the sky) didn't like it and banished that version of man from the garden. From what I've heard (and I don't remember exactly where, hopefully BoS can verify this) the genetic scientists had a DNA emblem on the sleeve of their clothes/uniforms and primitive man misinterpreted it as a snake. I think this is also where we get the medical caduceus from that are still seen to this day. BoS feel free to correct me here, you're the one that's being contacted lol

Remember that the Bible was rewritten over and over by men with agendas. I think of it like this... if it says's such and such entity was bad, it's probable because the person writing about them wanted us to fear them and see them as demonic, so that any future attempt to learn about this, whether from these entities directly or not, would instantly put us on the "evil" side of the whole matter. Good and Evil are relative terms specific for each individual. What's good for one (lets say a guy down on his luck with no other options [in his own mind] than to go knock over a convenient store in order to feed his family) is evil for another (anybody that was at that particular store)

EDIT: You mentioned Lucifer, which if I'm not mistaken was a salt water planet/planetoid that collided with the fresh water planet Eridu causing the deluge. I hope I'm making at least a little sense here, I've gone over so many stories and am trying to work out a truer history than we've been taught by finding commonalities and merging the accounts into a bigger picture.

Originally posted by BornOfSin

Very correct. They are attempting to align themselves prior to the upcoming shift which they are well aware of in order to maintain their power of dominion.
I can assure you .. VERY DEFINITIVELY .. that the visitors arriving in 2015 will not allow this to happen.
Vatican and religion are high order on their hit-list of 'Disciplinam Clementia'
There will be no religion on Earth by 2020.

2015 is so far away. Its always so far in the future it never really happens, there is just another "date" to capture our attention and focus. How can you assure me of anything as i have never seen a "visitor" other than the random people that come to my residence. Maybe you will manifest your very own "creation" if you can capture enough focus energy for the materialization of your imminent en-slaver's lol. I doubt you can do that though, that is why you are claiming "VERY DEFINITIVELY" of your knowings when in fact the only truth here is that you can string words together in such a way as to draw focus
How do you even know for sure there wont be a religion on Earth by 2020? Last i checked being ruled by "anyone" under a doctrine of behavior was a "religion". Seven years is a long time for possible variations to obscure the projection probability.

Originally posted by joeyv23
reply to post by LadyofGlass

 

The serpent was the one that gave us knowledge. The Sumerian history called him Enki. His brother EnLil (Lord of the sky) didn't like it and banished that version of man from the garden. From what I've heard (and I don't remember exactly where, hopefully BoS can verify this) the genetic scientists had a DNA emblem on the sleeve of their clothes/uniforms and primitive man misinterpreted it as a snake. I think this is also where we get the medical caduceus from that are still seen to this day. BoS feel free to correct me here, you're the one that's being contacted lol

Remember that the Bible was rewritten over and over by men with agendas. I think of it like this... if it says's such and such entity was bad, it's probable because the person writing about them wanted us to fear them and see them as demonic, so that any future attempt to learn about this, whether from these entities directly or not, would instantly put us on the "evil" side of the whole matter. Good and Evil are relative terms specific for each individual. What's good for one (lets say a guy down on his luck with no other options [in his own mind] than to go knock over a convenient store in order to feed his family) is evil for another (anybody that was at that particular store)

EDIT: You mentioned Lucifer, which if I'm not mistaken was a salt water planet/planetoid that collided with the fresh water planet Eridu causing the deluge. I hope I'm making at least a little sense here, I've gone over so many stories and am trying to work out a truer history than we've been taught by finding commonalities and merging the accounts into a bigger picture.

edit on 4/11/2013 by joeyv23 because: (no reason given)

It is very refreshing to occasionally read replies from people who are willing to do thorough research into what represents 'truth', rather than misrepresent information and their limited understanding of history to a level which suits the agenda of the erroneous constructed 'faith' they subscribe to.

You were pretty much spot on with everything that you said.

The gifting of 'advanced knowledge' to mankind was originally seen as bad by members of the race charged with genetically promoted humans, as it provided us with a level of understanding of the Universe that was considered to be potentially dangerous in the hands of an infant species.

You have to realise that within such understanding lies the keys to unlocking the enormous potential of our minds. To put this into perspective for you;

Imagine a race of humans with the ability of powerful telekinesis, ESP and all likeness cognitive abilities, that did not yet possess an understanding of basic morality and ethics. Who didn't comprehend exactly why it's considered bad to levitate their friend in the air and crush their bones with their mind, for example.

In this regard, it was definitely a mistake to offer our race the keys to the Universe at such an early stage. Recognition of this mistake was addressed in subsequent Reptilian authored Religious theologies, where they not only acknowledged such a mistake, but established a variation of the story into an allegory that would effectively 'scare' the proponents of the teachings of the text away from accepting such knowledge if it were offered to them. The Good and Evil duality was only adopted as the delivery method of such a story as the Reptilians needed to keep the texts as simple as possible for the (relatively) dense intelligence of man throughout the ages. Therefore such knowledge was 'DEVIL! BAD! ... FIRE AND BRIMSTONE and all that other rubbish', which the masses foolishly accepted as part of professing their faith, in order to obtain the comfortable 'security blanket' of religion that was offered to them to quell their fear of their own mortality and a pointless existence.

The problem was with the power of the written word they provided as to be the 'teacher' of right and wrong for our species. They are now realising that what they gave to us to serve a limited purpose for teaching, has turned into a sickness within our species, producing blindly devoted who are now incapable of seeing limitations of purpose within the Bible.

We are meant to move on from this. It's written CONSTANTLY throughout the Bible. "He who follows me shall not walk in Darkness, But shall have the light of life". It's not talking about us following God, it's talking about THE TEACHINGS that will follow the Bible.

The Reptilians basically created their own worst enemy by thinking we'd be smart enough as a race to be left alone with such easily misinterpreted tools of deception, which through simple greed of the Romans was contorted to remove their hand in it all.

They wanted to completely control it, which meant removing all traces of our true past.

They are sadly coming to terms with the fact that even when they do come down to Earth, land in front of cameras and say 'Hi Earth, so we hear you liked our book?' that they still going to widely be considered demons by Christians who completely misunderstand that the Bible was supposed to teach taking responsibility for your own actions of Good and Bad.

Lucifer was merely a personification for the purposes of allegory delivery. He was never meant to be a literal belief with which Christians could then blame for events in order to remove their own responsibility within actions. Or as a drawcard used to discount any highly logical truths without need for reason, if they deemed it outside their belief system.

This is both insulting to them when you consider what they have done for our race, but also complimentary considering it shows how good the content of their authoring was, if it can brainwash a whole planet of less-intelligent humans.

WHAT? YOU HAVE HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OUR BIBLE IS WRONG, THAT IT WAS WRITTEN BY ALIENS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY HERE ON THIS PLANET AS WE SPEAK AND THEY MAY SOME DAY SOON TELL US THE BIBLE IS ACTUALLY WRONG!!?!?!?!

Must be demons. Thank god!!! Now I can go back and stick my head in the sand and cuddle my security blanket some more.

What on EARTH would I have done if I found out God didn't exist?? I would have had to start fearing death again!!


I'll also never understand why people would fear death so much that they turn to religion in selfishly believe they will live forever.

I'll break down the logic of lunacy in fearing death for everyone to understand. When you die. You're dead. You wont care if you're dead cause .. well .. you are dead. You also wont care if you're going to another world because .. well ... you're dead .. you don't do much of anything in that state really.

edit on 11-4-2013 by BornOfSin because: Addition

Originally posted by TheomExperience

Originally posted by BornOfSin

Very correct. They are attempting to align themselves prior to the upcoming shift which they are well aware of in order to maintain their power of dominion.
I can assure you .. VERY DEFINITIVELY .. that the visitors arriving in 2015 will not allow this to happen.
Vatican and religion are high order on their hit-list of 'Disciplinam Clementia'
There will be no religion on Earth by 2020.

2015 is so far away. Its always so far in the future it never really happens, there is just another "date" to capture our attention and focus. How can you assure me of anything as i have never seen a "visitor" other than the random people that come to my residence. Maybe you will manifest your very own "creation" if you can capture enough focus energy for the materialization of your imminent en-slaver's lol. I doubt you can do that though, that is why you are claiming "VERY DEFINITIVELY" of your knowings when in fact the only truth here is that you can string words together in such a way as to draw focus

How do you even know for sure there wont be a religion on Earth by 2020? Last i checked being ruled by "anyone" under a doctrine of behavior was a "religion". Seven years is a long time for possible variations to obscure the projection probability.

Who said anything about being ruled? This is a narrow minded assumption of purpose.

Yes I have a predilection for superfluous diction. I am glad you appreciate it. Such a comment kinda reminds me of the way a magpie is easily drawn to shiny objects.

I tell you this VERY DEFINITIVELY due to the fact that they are already here. In fact particular races within the Reptilians have always been here.

You are right about the seven years being a long time for probability to be heavily influenced. This is why I gave a very high conservative estimate.

The fact they are going to smile for the camera in a few years, will very likely be more than sufficient as a catalyst to see this happen very rapidly. But at most .. I would say 2020. I doubt it will likely take more than a few years though once we are offered the 'forbidden knowledge' the Bible trembles about. (for good reason if you consider the gravity of it .. pardon the pun.)

They wont be here to 'rule' us. They will basically come to fix up our # ups. Tell us how we can move forward in the next stage of our development, then wait to see who works it out.

At this stage we will become a race of equal (fundamentally) within the Universe. All 'ruling' or posing as Gods that has taken place in our history prior to this needs to be understood as a parent TELLING their children not to do stupid things like touch the stove cause it's hot. We NEEDED superiors at those stages. Within the age now dawning, we do not.

Also it wont be the reptilians sent to do the talk-show rounds on Earth, it will be their little buddies 'The greys' who we are comfortable and familiar with in comparison. More accurately it will be the tall-grey grey/human hybrids that were specifically bred for just such diplomatic purposes (to match our height and dimensions), I wouldn't worry yourself too much about having to wait for this event though, as it is very likely from my understanding that a vast percentage of us wont be around to see it. ..... based on projected possibility subject to change of course.

And the original contact schedule was meant to be closer to 2030 (2032 originally) but they have had to move it forward considering the Nuclear # that is going to take place in our near future.

Also it would be worth noting, to all those who think the return of the Sumerian Gods to be a joke;

That with each aeon cycle to this planet, they have always promised to return and have given details on how we as a race will know when this time has come.

It can be established that over the last 300,000 years they have returned every time, just as they said they would.

From what I have been told, they have actually returned this way for around 1.3 million years. But we only possess knowledge for 300,000 of these.

Why would they suddenly 'not' return this time.

Originally posted by cornucopia
vatican wants to stay relevant in the future...

that is all there is to it...

lol

their days are numbered as Human wake up

I wish it were merely so.

The evidence Cris Putnam and Tom Horn have amassed to write EXO-VATICANA is staggering. The DVD is full of thousands of pages of documentation.

The Vatican is up to it's mitred hats in the whole ET as saviors meme. imho, They are AT LEAST as much "useful idiots" to the oligarchy and fallen angels, as they are directing anything.
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BTW, I don't find it interesting or worth the bother to respond to the endlessly blathering NEW AGE RELIGION thread-jacking used car, old ideas off-topic sales talk.
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Those who care to discuss the issues of the OP with meaningful mutual respect will likely get a meaningful response.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
Also it would be worth noting, to all those who think the return of the Sumerian Gods to be a joke;

That with each aeon cycle to this planet, they have always promised to return and have given details on how we as a race will know when this time has come.

It can be established that over the last 300,000 years they have returned every time, just as they said they would.

From what I have been told, they have actually returned this way for around 1.3 million years. But we only possess knowledge for 300,000 of these.

Why would they suddenly 'not' return this time.

mmm hmmm.........proof please

Originally posted by BornOfSin

Who said anything about being ruled? This is a narrow minded assumption of purpose.
Yes I have a predilection for superfluous diction. I am glad you appreciate it. Such a comment kinda reminds me of the way a magpie is easily drawn to shiny objects.
I tell you this VERY DEFINITIVELY due to the fact that they are already here. In fact particular races within the Reptilians have always been here.
You are right about the seven years being a long time for probability to be heavily influenced. This is why I gave a very high conservative estimate.
The fact they are going to smile for the camera in a few years, will very likely be more than sufficient as a catalyst to see this happen very rapidly. But at most .. I would say 2020. I doubt it will likely take more than a few years though once we are offered the 'forbidden knowledge' the Bible trembles about. (for good reason if you consider the gravity of it .. pardon the pun.)
They wont be here to 'rule' us. They will basically come to fix up our # ups. Tell us how we can move forward in the next stage of our development, then wait to see who works it out.
At this stage we will become a race of equal (fundamentally) within the Universe. All 'ruling' or posing as Gods that has taken place in our history prior to this needs to be understood as a parent TELLING their children not to do stupid things like touch the stove cause it's hot. We NEEDED superiors at those stages. Within the age now dawning, we do not.
Also it wont be the reptilians sent to do the talk-show rounds on Earth, it will be their little buddies 'The greys' who we are comfortable and familiar with in comparison. More accurately it will be the tall-grey grey/human hybrids that were specifically bred for just such diplomatic purposes (to match our height and dimensions), I wouldn't worry yourself too much about having to wait for this event though, as it is very likely from my understanding that a vast percentage of us wont be around to see it. ..... based on projected possibility subject to change of course.
And the original contact schedule was meant to be closer to 2030 (2032 originally) but they have had to move it forward considering the Nuclear # that is going to take place in our near future.

Well since you cant actually prove anything nor should you feel the need to defend your posts with an in depth description of your "forbidden knowledge", not sure why you keep replying. The only fact here is you want to believe this and want everyone else to buy it also. If these things didn't want to rule us there would be no hidden agenda or secrecy. But since they only exist as thought forms for me i am not going to worship these because i am afraid of them lol. Seriously you have gone from predicting earthquakes in weeks to alien invasions in decades. Here is a prediction i would like to make. You will have few friends and will end up committed to a psych ward within 12 months lol. Sorry mate but Aliens just don't exist until a critical mass of people believe without a doubt they do. Right now its just a handful of people being confused into looking for "their saviors"

reply to post by TheomExperience


He has proved one thing . . . that he can hijack a thread fiercely and rabidly selling his snake-oil theology with endless long posts having nothing whatsoever to do with the OP

. . . and get masterfully away with it Scott-free.

Fascinating.

I have not read the replies but that video was horrible.

Why can they not just show a proper picture of whatever they are talking about (the pictures, the skull, whatever) instead of panning, zooming and having flames and stuff exposed behind the pics. It was so lacking in substance it was sickening.

The information itself was interesting and cool- But no depth and terrible zooming camera, spooky music and such.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by TheomExperience

 

He has proved one thing . . . that he can hijack a thread fiercely and rabidly selling his snake-oil theology with endless long posts having nothing whatsoever to do with the OP

. . . and get masterfully away with it Scott-free.

Fascinating.

I do not think anyone is getting away with anything. I think BOS could have been a great cult leader. Would make the Vatican proud haha

reply to post by TheomExperience


Sooooooooo, what is your perspective on the OP? Do you believe the Vatican is 'in bed' with the aliens or not?

Everything I've encountered that touches on the topic indicates they are. Certainly Putnam and Horn are well documenting that they are.

Re the no one getting away with anything allegation in your post . . .

Perhaps you have a better term?

Person "A" writes 2 lines somewhat but not totally off topic and gets post removed, a warning and maybe a point penalty.

Person "B" writes a dozen or 3 very long fiercely aggressive religious sales posts virtually to totally off topic and doesn't even get a slight warning or a slight slap on the wrist.

reply to post by BO XIAN


How is talking about the OP hijacking your thread? You asked, BoS answered. If it had been me, I wouldn't use the same tact, nor tone as he does, but I'll reiterate that the information that he's giving is solid. My research led me to nearly the same conclusions that he's come to on all points. It seems to me that you have 0 desire to hear anything that the guy is telling you. You MUST be willing to have an open mind if you intend to get to the bottom of anything. You asked about what the Vatican is hiding, and he's giving you information, that is very likely to be held there. We can't prove what's in there, because by it's very nature, you can't get in and verify what's there and what's not there. I've also given you information that is likely to be held in the Vatican, specifically the fact that the moon meets the perfect geometrical requirement and matches with Revelations description of New Jerusalem, but I heard nothing back on that. It seems to me, and this just me calling it like I see it here, you have already made up your mind about what you believe to be the truth. If you had taken the least bit of time, you could double check his info. The only thing different that I'd have done in disseminating the info, would be to say don't believe me, but prove me wrong. I'm open to different ideas, but all I've seen you do is hold to your argument as if its a life raft keeping you afloat in the middle of the Pacific. It's not my intention to belittle you at all in writing this. I'm just confused as to why you are accusing someone of being off premise, when in fact the information he's giving is exactly what you asked for.