The Vatican & Aliens 2013: Unsealed Alien Files

Originally posted by FaithandArms

Originally posted by BornOfSin

They want to end religion and the polarisation in belief systems that is the historical cause of just about ever war in history.

They want to end the misguided killing in the names of non-existent Gods, born of misinterpretations of ancient fairy tales.

Do you honestly think wars and killing would just magically end if religion didn't exist? I think you underestimate human nature and the intense desire some individuals have to control and rule over others.

Knowledge and Wealth are the two roads to power. If you can stop others from aquiring those things and hoard them all for yourself you can attain power (and keep it).



On topic, look at how the Vatican has hidden books in their library so no one can see them or how they have thrown out books that were considered part of the bible while Jesus was alive. The King James Version of the bible is considered by a lot of people to be the original bible, but it wasn't. The catholic bible was taken from the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic versions and translated into Latin so only priests could read it, forcing the peasants to go to the clergy just to hear God's word. Being the only ones capable of translating or reading the bible allowed the church to dictate whatever they wanted to their followers. This has enabled them to have a VERY powerful organization that to this day still has a stranglehold on information that could benefit everyone on the planet.

(Also not trying to catholic bash, there is a difference between the everyday followers of catholism and people involved high up within the catholic organization that have authority.)

I didn't say it would end war or killing. I said they wanted to end the religiously motivated war and killing. Huge difference.

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I'm sure deceiving and seducing millions of humans into hell will relieve a ton of suffering from "religious" wars. /sarc
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The Vatican is gearing up to seduce the RCC faithful into supporting the critters as saviors. More deception.
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The critters have shown themselves to be extremely skillful at playing humans' pride and power-mongering inclinations like a piano.
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The Vatican caveat . . . IF . . . the critters new 'theological knowledge' can be verified . . .
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiight . . . just how is one to determine the validity of any such purported verification?
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When there are dark spiritual forces and exotic technologies which can twist the very fabric of space and time every which way desired . . . just how does one establish a reference point and foundation to verify anything?
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Christ gave us a benchmark--anyone or anything which did not acknowledge that Christ came in the flesh must be considered accursed.
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You write like you're quite full of . . . your purportedly lofty 'new knowlege' from your beloved arcons.
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The old deceptions ride again in new uniforms, costumes and maybe even new forms. The goal remains the same--to get as many humans trashed into hell with the dark lord as possible . . . as the only way he can get back at God Almighty for being kicked out of Heaven for his . . . uhhhhh

super over weening . . . PRIDE.
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Hello Bo
Quick question what's your take on the murders that have taken place in the name of The Lord by then and still respected indavisuals? This also includes when directed to do so by holy command. Thx

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imho, this is a straw dog . . . a carefully chosen and engineered rant topic merely designed to try and trash the opposition. However . . . I'll try and give a brief, honest reply though I doubt there'll be the slightest respect for any merit in it.
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In terms of the OP, Certainly the Vatican only PRETENDED [/sarc] to mercilessly murder thousands [yes, I'm aware of the disputed numbers] of faithful Biblical Christians during the Inquisition. In other words, the Vatican WAS RUTHLESSLY GENOCIDAL IN THEIR INQUISITIONAL MURDER AND MAYHEM in God's name, no less. And they are STILL JUSTIFYING that hideousness.
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Such had NOTHING TO DO WITH A BIBLICAL NOR GOD SENT INSTRUCTION. It had TOTALLY to do with removing as many authentic Christians as possible from any threat to the leadership's POWER-MONGERING !CONTROL! FREAK RUTHLESSNESS and fiefdoms.
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So, in that light, it's not all that surprising that the Vatican is increasingly revealing itself to be part of a globalist/ET/fallen angel managed machine designed to genocidally murder billions of people in the UN Agenda 21 depopulation goal of reducing the global numbers down to 200-500 million souls.
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RELIGION--EVEN THE PROVEN RELIGION OF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB AND YESHUA--virtually always turns horribly DEADLY [color=6699FF]WHEN it turns from an alive, authentic, submitted, broken, humble, servant-hearted RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD THE FATHER, SON, SPIRIT. But then, that structure, organization, group [color=6699FF]has become a caricature--NOT THE REAL THING.
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The situations of instructions of ALMIGHTY GOD to wipe out all living souls and even the animals of some of the tribes in the Old Testament were interesting cases. Seriously.
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Accept--just for argument--that GOD'S NATURE IS TO HATE VIOLENCE, TO HATE PARTICULARLY BLOODSHED AND TO BE LONG SUFFERING, FORGIVING, MERCIFUL. So, why then, would HE order such a horrific thing?
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[color=6699FF]Because not to would result in greater horror.
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ALMIGHTY GOD had already demonstrated on this boot-camp planet that sin, rebellion, idolatry left unchecked would destroy mankind wholesale. He barely rescued 8 souls including Noah.
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The tribes that were exterminated were ragingly idolatrous and child murdering tribes. They routinely offered their children in horrible sacrifices to demon gods.
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There may also be some factors we do not quite understand from our finite perspective. There's evidently some sort of horrific spiritual/demonic pollution that can follow our DNA. There is evidently some spiritual pollution that is soooo horrific in it's threat to society and the world as a whole--that the only thing to do with it is to wipe it out totally--down to the last cow, sheep and dog.
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Certainly that is a vivid declaration of the horrors of choosing demon worship as a life choice.
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Much is made of the innocent children being killed in those cases. However, never do those wailing about the innocent children seem to consider at all how vulnerable those children were to being literally tortured to death in horrific child sacrifices--often being burned alive on a demon god's statue or within the statue. That's a lot worse than being even quickly murdered with a sword.
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And, I'm convinced that all those children who were innocent in terms of not having been old enough to choose knowingly right from wrong--I am convinced those souls were immediately taken to Heaven. Children who have died in horrible auto accidents and later been resuscitated have said that their consciousness immediately went to Heaven and that they felt virtually no pain from the first microseconds of their injuries until they came back into their bodies. I believe that.
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I doubt the above will comfort much of anyone on the other side. And, there are many things we do not understand in our finiteness on this boot camp planet. I just KNOW that Almighty God is ALTOGETHER GOOD and that HIS MERCY triumphs over even His own justice. And I know that I can trust HIM to do the righteous loving thing--all things considered--regardless.
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That is certainly NOT true about the fallen angel/demon & satan worshiping globalist oligarchy.

And that is what makes the Vatican's choice to side with that orientation all the more horrific and grossly, outrageously hypocritical.
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OF COURSE

a LOT of such murder and mayhem

never had a shred of any such instructions from the REAL GOD ALMIGHTY.

Deception flows freely from pride and power-mongering and from demonic Jezebel !CONTROL! spirits that consume folks given to pride, idolatry, rebellion and power mongering--regardless of the white wash, pomp and circumstance and white robes they dress it up in.

Originally posted by GeneralChaos

Originally posted by cconn487
= Not saying the church is evil or anything like that,

Well, if you won't say it then I will.

The church, and EVERY religion IS evil!
EVIL to its core!!!!

Because EVERY major religion has ONE thing in common.

They teach you to SUBMIT and pray to a power outside of yourself.
This is why these bastards in the sky don't care which religion you choose.
Just that you choose one.

As long as you NEVER realize how powerful you actually are then.....They can NEVER be defeated.

They want you to believe that YOU are powerless.
Only through submitting to some make believe entity can you ever hope to go to whatever awesome made up place you choose to believe exists.

What they do NOT want you to know is that you could collectively WIPE THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE with a single thought.
That YOU are ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING, ALL that IS, WAS, and EVER WILL BE!

Nope, give your unlimited power over to worshipping and idolizing any number of figures but don't you dare think that you can do this whole "life thing" on your own.

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That by far, is the most awsome post I have seen for some time!

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I disagree.

The Vatican would have us believe that the new truly true and truest salvation will only come via the ET/fallen angel critters.
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The meme that we are all totally independent super gods ourselves merely about to wake-up to our godlikeness is a deception.
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The Vatican leaders along with the globalist oligarchy leaders are used to submitting to a force and evil ruthlessness far far FAR worse than any worship requirements of
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Loving Almighty God.
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But just PRETEND for a bit that every human individual was this independent god figure . . . about to embark on being an 'ALMIGHTY GOD' in his own multiverse off somewhere super isolated.
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[color=6699FF]What happens to the evil rot within?
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As the saying goes . . . Pogo was right--[color=6699FF]We HAVE met the enemy and he IS US
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Or, as Dr Philip Zimbardo of the prison experiments fame asserted decades ago in his intro to psych text . . . my paraphrase is pretty close . . .
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[color=6699FF]It is not a big problem if the monsters are OUT THERE. There are not many of them. We can gang up on them. But if the monsters are within each of us--the problem is MUCH greater.
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He felt that his prison experiment demonstrated that the monster is within each of us.
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Christianity asserts that THAT MONSTER is "original sin" . . . an innate predilection to rebelling against God and all that's good in behalf of selfishness, pride, idolatry, rebellion.
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Sooooooooooooo, in your construction on 'reality' there are all these individual gods running around loose with all this infinite power . . .
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. . . and rotten, selfish, arrogant, ruthless, souls within.
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[color=6699FF]SOUNDS LIKE a PERFECT recipe for a fantastic set of limitless utiopias of peace and harmony aplenty!!!
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NOT!!!!
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Check this out Bo Xian, I was simply stating that it was an awsome post because the passion in it was damn near tangible. You could feel it. And in my opinion, passion should be acknowledged.

-But my opinion on this ET crap.... I do think there is an agenda behind it. An agenda to manipulate peoples minds into believing we should worship an ET or whatever. (me, I'm not doing that s***) Id rather die. What sucks bad, is that there is no military for God.... Like a give me a sword or gun and I can do your dirty work. Because I'd sign up on spot.

Wonder what God thinks about the vatican....................

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I think folks who've read much of my writing are aware that I'm a passionate person. Most think toooo passionate.
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Passion is wonderful.

WHAT THE PASSION IS IN BEHALF OF

[color=6699FF]IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL.
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I don't applaud passionate axe or chainsaw murderers.
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In terms of the Vatican . . . IF there has EVER been any Holy Spirit light in the Vatican structure at it's beginning about 400 AD . . . HE LEFT not long thereafter. He's not party to a sham, a lie, a frace, a human, carnal power-mongering elite.
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Christ Himself demonstrated washing the Disciple's feet and dying for all. And that was not a once a year farcical ceremony of washing already clean feet.
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In terms of the Vatican's siding with satan worshiping fallen angel globalist stooges . . . do you really have to ask what God's perspective on that is?
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The forces of evil are powerful. However, they got snookered at the cross and again at the empty tomb. ALL AUTHORITY AND POWER has been given to the Risen Christ.
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NOTHING ELSE can deal with the evils running rampant in the land. And THAT is one of the big reasons they are working overtime to trash authentic belief and practice of authentic Christianity. THEY KNOW the power of prayer and an intimate relationship with HIM even if far too many Christians and pseudo-Christians do not.
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Perhaps you could ask God to make Himself real to you. He tends to answer such an authentic, genuine, earnest request. He does it in His own time and in His own ways and usually with some margin left for faith. But He does answer that kind of request in fairly clear and tailor-made ways.
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Assumptions can be deadly. Particularly when based on propaganda, faulty bias etc.

I'm posting to come back after work and read up on this. I guess people have said that the Vatican knows A LOT of things. I also would love to be let lose in the Vatican Library. I could just imagine what I'd find. Like the saying goes....."The truth is sometimes stranger than fiction."

Could you just imagine if Stephen King's writings were true???? If that's the case, this is a totally messed up place!!!

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i could be wrong but i think it isn't fear of the unknown as much as why should we know?,you ever heard the saying,"knowledge is power" i think that's something many establishments/secrets societies take to heart,they keep information from us so that they can us it to their advantage,the disclosure of this kind of information might make people re-think their religious ideologies.

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Thanks for the response. Good day

Originally posted by resoe26

-But my opinion on this ET crap.... I do think there is an agenda behind it. An agenda to manipulate peoples minds into believing we should worship an ET or whatever. (me, I'm not doing that s***) Id rather die. What sucks bad, is that there is no military for God.... Like a give me a sword or gun and I can do your dirty work. Because I'd sign up on spot.

Wonder what God thinks about the vatican....................

I am glad to hear you won't bow down to them. I do worry that a LOT of people are going to see flesh and blood beings come down and say we made you and we can perfect you, so worship us now... and I think they will worship them.

I can't speak for God of course, but considering he warns against altering his message and to be wary of false prophets, etc I imagine he wouldn't be pleased by what they are currently doing and what they will try to pull on the members of the church.


Well... I wouldn't say he doesn't have an army. God's followers are his army.. it's just that the enemies of God aren't (at this time) physical to us. When the deception really kicks off and you have physical creatures running around then you will be able to pull out a gun or sword or knife and go at them.
If you want to sign up for one of those spots I would look up books and information that cover how to armor yourself in faith, how to cast out demons that are possessing or harrassing people (the armor for yourself will come in really useful at that point) and also how to become a prayer warrior. You could be fighting for God now if you wanted, it would just be spiritual fighting at the moment.

Originally posted by meaningless333
I agree with Bo Xian when he says that on Fátima´s 100th anniversary we shall see some extraordinary worldwide effect event. I believe that was predicted in the original prophecy made to the three sheperds at Cova da Iria (Fátima sightings) in 1917.

About the "being" that appeared in Fátima, i´m not sure that presented itself as Mary (i would have to check my references). Most likely, it were the local Vatican officials (like Cónego Formigão) that forced those three little children to say so.

There is no doubt on my mind that Fátima sightings were an ED/ET event. We have hundreds (tens) of testimonies of that (either educated and non-educated people) and even photographs (that probably are on Vatican´s Library). One must remember that the sightings began in early 1917 (when the three shepherds were visited by what was described as "angel", and between May and October 1917 that was when the allegedly Mary made her appearances every 13th day of the month.


I also believe that the famous 3th secret of Fátima was not yet revelead. I don´t buy a word of that crap made public on 2000 by the late poe John Paul II on Fátima. It was just sand to our eyes, obvious desinformation measure.

Meaningless333

PS: Sorry for my awful english but i´m not an english native speaker.

After reading all this, I am going to have to do more research into that event. I had mostly ignored it in the past, as being yet another CC load of tripe.

"Awful English"? Your English is far better than that of many that have spoken it since birth.

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The whole scheme is far bigger than even many conspiracy types believe. People worry about Illuminati, Bilderbergs, and so forth (and they should), but many fail to see that there are forces behind those human ones, pulling all the strings.

One of these days, HAVE to get a copy of that video. Hate doing it cheaply, but guess I could always offer another donation later. Been meaning to check that out for some time now.

Sounds like you have had some interesting conversations! I have long thought they were demonic, and firmly believe that is the truth. The late friend I have spoken of before made me even more sure. Nothing bothered him in my house. He even admitted he felt safe there, and he didn't want to believe my theory on the topic.

Bravo on the response about the God-commanded killings. Plus, gotta give credit to anyone that can quote Pogo!

Originally posted by BornOfSin

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
What do they ask for? This path you are on isn't safe, my friend.

They want to end religion and the polarisation in belief systems that is the historical cause of just about ever war in history.

They want to end the misguided killing in the names of non-existent Gods, born of misinterpretations of ancient fairy tales.

No, that isn't what they want at all.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
Also I know many people that score high on their IQ tests, that I regard as idiots. *snip*

Your opinion. If you claim a high IQ, and believe whatever some entity tells you, with no proof (since you have offered NONE, I have to guess you have none), then maybe you should rethink where to apply that label?

Originally posted by BornOfSin
I have no problem with people believing in any religion, or even a yetti if it improves the quality of their life and makes them a good person. But I do not believe that anyone of notable intelligence would be religious any any way, shape or form. There is no way.

The only reason the 'path I am on' would not be safe, would be because of fundamental religious being afraid of hearing the truth. We need to progress as a race and religious polarisation is the SINGLE MOST DANGEROUS AND UNPRODUCTIVE THING THREATENING OUR EVOLUTION. This is a simple fact.

The path YOU are on is not safe. But regardless. I wish you all the best.

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No, my path is quite secure. Evolution, as you see it, is a lie. The only changes you might see are not what you will be told they are.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
As I have been told that the 'contact' phenomena is subject to specifically chosen bloodlines, I feel this may have been my original connection to all this.

All the 'medical' type research that has been carried out on our species over the last 50 or so years, has been done on carefully selected people displaying either none, or high signs of an abnormality that was beginning to show in our collective DNA as a result of the modifications done to our species in antiquity. It has been very necessary to our future survival.

You see what they want you to see. I would bet you haven't done much study on the topic of the nephilim, or one of the reasons that God flooded the entire planet. Recommended reading. This "research" isn't anything but insertion of demonic material, as they have done for long ages.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
There is NO historical data to prove he existed. Tell me where and what historian. *snip*

Yes, there is.

Originally posted by BornOfSin There is NO historical data to prove he existed. Tell me where and what historian. *snip*" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">link
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Your refusal to accept it doesn't mean it isn't real. there is FAR more proof of His existence than of any of the claims you have made in this thread.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
Also, these 'entities' are VERY WELL DESCRIBED within the texts they claim to be referenced in. If they had looked like a dog and told me they were Archon, I would have been inclined not to believe them. But when they are massive lizard looking creatures, who are clearly described within the texts, I am inclined to believe them.

Your inclinations do not serve you well. There isn't any mention of lizard men in the Bible. If some other texts reference such, and some lizard thing manifests to you, and you believe what it says, then, yes, you are gullible. I could dress in a robe and claim to be a Bible character, but that wouldn't make it true.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
The most ironic thing about you telling me tyhat I AM gullible, is that THEY WROTE THE ORIGINAL BIBLICAL TEXTS!!! Some Roman Emperor comes along, decides he wants to control the masses with a centralised religion and to REMOVE them from the texts, and you are more inclined to believe his edited version. And you think that I should believe the edited version, over the ORIGINAL versions that cut them out FOR A REASON. You don't even know what gullible is. You can't see the forest from the trees. Pull your head out of the sand and realise how foolish you sound.

No, they didn't. Some demon comes to you, dresses in a lizard skin, and claims to have written the Bible, and you believe him, and you call others gullible? You think others sound foolish? Show us ANY proof of these claims of yours. ANY. So far, nothing you say has any credibility.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

BTW, your first link didn't work for me.

I think there's a possible case to make in terms of the Biblical text and certainly Enoch . . . for there being reptilians as part of the nephilim crew of fallen angel critters etc.

Nevertheless, your assertions are quite accurate and fitting.


It still seems like to me . . . a host of rebellious, idolatrous orientations either have already jumped or are about to jump on the fallen angel/global tyranny bandwagon. Sigh. Predictable. Still sad to see it happening before our eyes.

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I would like to congratulate you on being the all time biggest brain-washed Christian idealist I've ever met. The fact you speak with such arranged certainty in your last post, just goes to show how absolutely, unbelievably .... *Sighs* I'm at a loss to deal with such lack of comprehension!!

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
No, that isn't what they want at all.

If you're going to go to all the trouble of quoting me, then presenting a response that disagrees with me, the usual processes of an intelligent mind (as you've claimed yourself to have) would be to propose a plausible arguement based on some type of data set that allows you to form such a conclusion. You basically just said 'NO CAUSE I SAID SO'. How the hell would YOU know what they want? You trying to tell me that you have more of an understanding of Intergalactic Political Process in Relation to operational procedures when dealing with off-world sentient beings than an extraterrestrial race would? That highly conceited, but not altogether surprising considering your religion.

Your opinion. If you claim a high IQ, and believe whatever some entity tells you, with no proof (since you have offered NONE, I have to guess you have none), then maybe you should rethink where to apply that label?

I actually offered more correlating evidence within the Bible to support my theory than you have to support the existence of your own God on any level. Are you telling me that the Bible is perfectly acceptable to SUPPORT your belief in God, but represents no level of evidence to disprove it??? That's hypocrisy on a LAUGHABLE level. I can tell you right now, I know more about your Bible and religion than you ever will, and I can correlate it to more of my theory, and proof of the the historical context of the Archons in the Nag Hammadi and Dead Sea, than you or anyone you know would be able to prove me otherwise.

That's just in YOUR Bible. Then you have the Mayan mythology and other Mesoamerican cultures. Babylonias, Sumerian creation tablets, all astrological, all correlate the traditional Biblical texts with THE ANNUNAKI, very clearly described, who COME TO TEACH MAN!! As they are doing now with me and you are foolishly disregarding due to being blindly brainwashed.

Bothering to give you basis of any cosmological model is a waste of time as we both know you wouldn't understand it, and you'd discount it regardless as faith means 'not wanting to know what is real'.

I gave you plenty of checkable data in relation to the the scientific ideas that I proposed, that you can go and check and see are all plausible.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY!!! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IRONIC AND HYSTERICALLY FUNNY IT IS, FOR A CHRISTIAN TO BE ASKING SOMEONE ELSE FOR 'PROOF'. It is by far the single most hypocritical thing I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE!!!!!!

No, my path is quite secure. Evolution, as you see it, is a lie. The only changes you might see are not what you will be told they are.

L... O ... L!!!! Oh wow!!! Seriously?? And the Earth is flat??? LOL.... It's OK only 2 years now until they land. Can't wait for Christianity to end and the collective IQ of this planet to go up.

You see what they want you to see. I would bet you haven't done much study on the topic of the nephilim, or one of the reasons that God flooded the entire planet. Recommended reading. This "research" isn't anything but insertion of demonic material, as they have done for long ages.

Firstly, you don't know what 'research' is, so stop throwing the word around hoping that it will make you sound smarter.

Nephilim? Which context are you referring to them in. The Biblical product of the breeding of the 'Sons of God', and the 'Daughters of man', the Phillistine sea people reference in the Hebrew Bible, the Sumerian creation Myth where the Biblical story was STOLEN from thousands of years later, or the actual source of the Myth which is the Genetic modifications of our species by the Annunaki to gift us curious intelligence?? You do realise that 'Gods council' and 'Sons of God' are the Archon? Don't you?

You know why they wrote all the type of allegories into the Bible?? Cause they actually happened. The problem is that, they happened HUNDREDS of thousands of years ago, not a couple. Jesus is just 'God Version 7.4'

Yes, there is.
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Your refusal to accept it doesn't mean it isn't real. there is FAR more proof of His existence than of any of the claims you have made in this thread.

This is where the 'research' part would have really come in handy for you. All I'm about to tell you is FACT, go check it.

Thallus didn't ever mention God. He was QUOTED and DICTATED as speaking of God by Eusebius, who was part of the Council of Nicaea that invented Christianity.

Pliny the Younger and Suetonius talk to the Emperor about dealing with CHRISTIANS, not Christ.

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Claiming any sort of proof from this is like saying 'My grandfather read a book where a guy said he believed in Santa Clause, so therefore Santa Clause must be true.'

All the others sources that were pointed out there are all chinese whispers of stories which had been around for thousands of years, being reinterpreted for their modern times.

NONE OF THEM WERE WRITTEN AT THE TIME THAT JESUS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALIVE. Therefore NONE of them even represent a SHADOW of truth.

Take a simple Urban myth, one you've heard a thousand times before. Pass it around Facebook and then wait .. YEARS later, I bet you that it resurfaces, except this time it will be modified to suit with times and places.

This is the EXACT thing that the Council of Nicaea did when Constantine created Christianity through the first Roman Catholic church.

He took all the best myths from all the best religions into one, slapped them into one book. Made it PUNISHABLE BY DEATH TO PRACTICE ANY OTHER RELIGION!!!

Burned the human repository of knowledge in Alexandria in an attempt to mask the history of where his new religion was plagiarized from.

If you are going to point out those things as fact for Christianity, then I would like to take this opportunity to put my claim forward to you as King of Australia. I will have an article up in an hour to support this, so you will believe it, cause you wont go and actually check the validity of my claim.

You may as well have brought up the (very common) phosphorous shroud they claim is proof. Or Josephus, who actually had forgeries inserted into his legitimate work by Eusebius as part of the campaign with Constantine to legitimise their religion.

You think if he's making forgeries, he's not going to falsely quote someone?? (In a VERBAL story, dictated LONG AD.)

So I say to you AGAIN ...

Show me one piece of evidence!!

I've been studying religion of ALL types in depth for a very long time. I wish you the best of luck finding it.

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