Natural humans a.k.a "empty shells" and "occupied" humans a.k.a soul..know the difference

reply to post by ABeing


Actually, no we're not that energy at all. This is a creational hologram. Its like entering a television or a dream lab with your imagination. Imagination is not the technology, its something else.

Lets use an analogy to make this clearer, for this is a more advanced system than anything we have and so everything said is metaphoric. But if you are playing a computer game, in a realm, are you the computer? Are you the programming of the game? No you're not.

On the other hand, if everything is really Mind, yet infinite thoughts and compartments growing up and perfecting, then there would be frequency levels, ie infinite mansions of heaven, so to speak, and so some of what we're doing is on par or a match with our level of consciousness, unless we came in from higher levels trying to help or do something or reach someone or fine tune something. We're infinite parts of infinity, and all things are infinity within and without, like infinite spirals. Our infinite souls are like infinite diamonds with infinite facets, ie faces, some are mirky and need work to clarify and be LOVE. Other parts are clear and flow the whole more. But not all energy is animate, infinity is really infinite place, person, thing, and infinite variety of such, never ending and mind boggling without any limits and measurements, therefore no time. Matter here is a kind of plasma electric discharge, waves of it, on a certain frequency. Frequency is infinite range, as well. This layer is very sticky and almost web like by the way. There are times where it feels like some kind of contaminant and leaden. I don't like this much.

reply to post by Unity_99


In accordance to the reality that the holographic Universe in which we exist is indeed an orchestra of frequencies orchestrating the resonance of particles, vibrating them into matter, and it is becoming clear that even thoughts and emotions resonate in certain frequencies, then yes, we are not the energy itself but intricately connected to it regardless.
It is the consciousness that is the source of the frequencies, indeed, but no, we are part of the matrix, because we are here to serve a purpose. Resonating love is definitely part of it.

reply to post by k1k1to


I completely understand what you are saying and I completely agree. Below is a link to a page that talks about spiritless humans that you might find interesting

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

i understand your theory.. and can definitly see how you've come to accept it.. but i think any 'concious' being is occupied with a soul.. the concious part is what seperates us from jellyfish and ants, which is what you were comparing natural humans to. ALL of us, even the idiotic brainwashed ones, contribute to a mass conciousness, and that mass conciousness effects everything on this planet (plants, weather, animals) and this planet effects the solar system, and so on. we're all connected.. down to the quarks in our molecules.

reply to post by ABeing


Im not connected to this web, and am waiting to be out of here, and want everyone out of here ASAP. In Love and Lightness of Mind/Body/Soul/Heart, every aspect of us there is.

Ex. many ground when they meditate. Its a trap.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by ABeing

 

Im not connected to this web, and am waiting to be out of here, and want everyone out of here ASAP. In Love and Lightness of Mind/Body/Soul/Heart, every aspect of us there is.

Ex. many ground when they meditate. Its a trap.

edit on 2-4-2013 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

I will not continue to discuss this, as I understand that you are in a state of bliss and the discussion we have engaged in may disturb that inner peace you currently inhabit, and I do not desire to further risk that happening.

In essence; the realization of universal consciousness comes from within and not from outside sources, thus, it is wiser to leave everyone to their own personal spiritual journey and not try to pull them along, rather, put up 'road signs' that spark interest so that they may venture upon that path and find enlightenment by personal exploration.

reply to post by k1k1to


I read about this theory a few years ago when I was reading aboutt solipsism. Look up the wiki page on that and you can probably find the name of the guy. Neat theory. Just one of those things impossible to prove or disprove.

reply to post by k1k1to


No. Higher beings? Nonsense. Where? Inside of you? You're preaching a doctrine that has been taught for thousands of years. If you think you are trapped in a shell, release yourself. Really, get it over with, leave this world, its too difficult for you, and leave us "natural humans" in peace.

Those who think they are shells, either full or empty, will always remain shells.

reply to post by k1k1to


The British ruled by basic principle "divide and rule"
The East Asians ruled by terror and maintaining purity of race
This professor's theory is a variation of the British "divide and rule" fundamental; creating an artificial human without soul.

These are all crazy ideas. All living beings, even the plants and insects have the same soul as humans.

You pose an interesting idea, but I have a different take on humans and our souls. I believe all of us have souls. Many souls are asleep and some are awake and seeking truth and spiritual enlightenment / growth. I believe all souls were created in a time before this age, and based on decisions in that age we reflect who we were then in our natural inclinations.

I also believe that some are per-destined based on certain actions in that first age to do certain things. Some of those will be negative and others positive, and it's based on who we are deep down. I also think some of the most beautiful souls are targeted by negative forces early on so they do not accomplish all that they could and their soul goes to sleep in a sense of self preservation. Those empty vacuums that we sometimes see are the most wounded souls that if healed would be the most amazing and beautiful you could ever imagine. I've been blessed to see them awaken a few times, it is something I will always cherish. I do not believe anyone is beyond love, forgiveness, wisdom, or enlightenment. We simply limit ourselves by the lies spoken in that still small voice which seeks to keep us from being a true light in this age.

reply to post by k1k1to


Your numbers are all ass backwards. Roughly 1%, (some research/ers say 2% of the population, mainly in terms of the "western" world) are psychopaths. It is even less in some east Asian countries, the majority of them being male, as females are per capita less likely to be psychopathic.

But aside from the evidence, I think it's sort of cynical to think 97% of the population is without a soul. It's a little too close to nihilism for my comforts. I'd be more open or inclined to hear you out if you had offered anything in the way of proof, even of the circumstantial or indirect variety.

Claiming knowledge of who has a soul and who does not is dangerous theorizing by my estimation. Not sure what purpose it serves to condemn and judge such a large segment of the population in that way. I like to think that most people at heart, are good people. I believe in good people. Maybe some of them have made bad decisions along the way sure, no one is perfect. To call them soul-less seems drastic and unnecessary to me.

Originally posted by Unity_99

Ex. many ground when they meditate. Its a trap

Never heard meditation described before as a trap, and in fact I never have heard of anything negative being ascribed to meditation. However I'm open to listening to your reasoning for this opinion.

There are no soulless people, the one who created us made it so.
There are many who lack spiritual motivation, and by actions seem defunct.
The ability to distinguish the difference between the two is something that should be used to help ignite the spark of those individuals who are laden with dark and shadow.
This is knowledge that is available to everyone, the difference is that some do not seek the answers.
When "worldly" things become the focal point in a persons life they slowly weaken the flame, but it is never extinguished.
Regardless of what or who the individual is or has become, we all came from the same source, we are all made in his image, and we all have a purpose to serve.

PLPL

Why did so many of you Flag and Star the OP? This is nothing but someone suffering from illusions of grandeur! To state 97% of all humans are 'empty shells' is an insult to the majority of humankind!
It must be nice to feel so superior to be in the 3%.... AND to have the ability to be able to look at a photo and tell EVERYTHING about that person's life really humbles me!
To think that all these years I thought there was a higher order to the universe outside our own realm and to suddenly have a 'whole soulful person' tell me it's THEM (and a mere 3% others) that the OP blesses with his amazing awesomeness leaves me in.... AWE!
But, just in case it's something other than a simple case of a superiority complex you suffer from I have a little experience in psychology (of course you already know that being the ultimate one) and I have read where science has been making great strides to cure this (3%) with wonderful new medicines!

reply to post by k1k1to


I think this is what the movie "Host" was somewhat describing. Except, your theory doesn't involve aliens conquering planets, it's still kind of the same idea.

reply to post by wulff


I agree...just look at esteay's post on page 15....To me this proves the op is just making it up and doesn't really believe what they say.....1st class troll.
Plagiarism at best no original thought at all.

reply to post by ABeing


This is not a state of bliss. What it is, since early childhood, is horror at this world, avoidance of news, well ATS fills me in, as I spent my teen age years, and later, having to live through every single persons murder or tragic ending, and hold a candle to them, and argue with the councils overhead that I knew were there so called testing us, because never agree with a world that harms supposedly to advance a soul, but in reality, seems to me a large group working to entrap them. My goal is getting every single person out of here and healed up, even the bad guys.

But then that is how anyone is aware should feel. The real or metaphorical Christ, trying to free our minds and showing us to not value the dross of this world but help your neighbor, and not just the righteous, but the sinner, the one in prison, the one in need of a good example. Or even Bruce Lee, Open your mind, be water my friend.

There are wonderful eutopias, shared edens, equal and filled with high learning, adventures and missions, wonderful places. We don't have to learn under the thumb of ritualists and murderers/slavers There are wonderful positive ways to learn. Not everyone has fallen in existence.

And I just had another most odd dream, and connecting it to the one about Bush, this one pretty much makes me realize why we need to get lucid and why we need to JUMP.

So, there was different locations, a younger version of my mother in them, when suddenly there was work going on, it seemed it was for a security system for a computer. I got quite suspicious and sent out a big question: WHO. Romney came, and instantly realized, they're seeking permissions from us in our dreams, when we are distorted and don't even understand. They need our permissions to assault our liberties. I said, NO PERMISSION GIVEN. And the alarm went off shortly after.

Now, talking to a friend, its beginning to come clear that a great deal of our behavior during the day time, the compliance is not just the chemicals in the water and the koolaid, its the programming their doing somehow via a grid over consciousness and sleep/dreams.

Now, I had woken earlier and gone to sleep again, and just as I was drifting to sleep starting programming myself: Jump. Jump. Jump.

Will be keeping this ongoing. Because some of my dreams have been very interesting, yet I want to consciously choose, not hit and miss.

Of course if people were lacking souls, they wouldn't be so strongly bent on controlling every aspect of life including dreams and they certainly wouldn't need PERMISSIONS.

But you see, the metaphorical dark chess pieces cannot overcome the light pieces, there is no frequency match there. They lay seige to the white pieces, gradually lowering frequency.

reply to post by k1k1to


I feel you have it backwards.

The definition is correct, but the meaning is vice versa.

The natural human is actually the soul. The occupied human is the empty shell. Occupied means occupied by something other than self which is ego. Occupied also means programmed by something outside of self.
A baby is innocent and its the most direct representation of source God the Tao.

The soul is equal to the heart, not the mind. The soul is born already and is set to find its life purpose.

For the most part you are correct, but you have it backwards my friend. You are close though


The ego is also the quaking mess.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by ABeing

 

This is not a state of bliss. What it is, since early childhood, is horror at this world, avoidance of news, well ATS fills me in, as I spent my teen age years, and later, having to live through every single persons murder or tragic ending, and hold a candle to them, and argue with the councils overhead that I knew were there so called testing us, because never agree with a world that harms supposedly to advance a soul, but in reality, seems to me a large group working to entrap them. My goal is getting every single person out of here and healed up, even the bad guys.

But then that is how anyone is aware should feel. The real or metaphorical Christ, trying to free our minds and showing us to not value the dross of this world but help your neighbor, and not just the righteous, but the sinner, the one in prison, the one in need of a good example. Or even Bruce Lee, Open your mind, be water my friend.

There are wonderful eutopias, shared edens, equal and filled with high learning, adventures and missions, wonderful places. We don't have to learn under the thumb of ritualists and murderers/slavers There are wonderful positive ways to learn. Not everyone has fallen in existence.

edit on 2-4-2013 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

Indeed. Thus, now we both agree that there are no empty vessels and that everyone can be saved and we are therefore discussing another subject rather than the original topic of the thread.
It is good that at least some of us do not simply idly stand by and watch as people are falling for the deception.
Keep up the good work and the light lit.