Natural humans a.k.a "empty shells" and "occupied" humans a.k.a soul..know the difference

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Never trust anyone who claims to be more spiritually awake or better than anyone else.
Yup you taught me those.

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That's thought provoking...wonder if i can resist the temptations of being here all the time if i can't recall what i am or was before coming here on earth.

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you're not supposed to remember where you came from, otherwise it would defeat the purpose and make you want to leave even more badly.

imagine if you remembered all the friends and family that you left behind from another reality.

Originally posted by k1k1to

hah indeed this existence is not punishment, but the society in which we have created IS.

Compared to? a Utopian Society? Or... Hitler's Society?

do you think this species was meant to live like this?

Compared to? Again... your preconcieved notions have limited your vision.

look at what you are doing to your own pearl of the solar system. yes this existence has potential to be blissful but sadly it isnt.

While it's true that we are damaging our planet, I also see others working to restore her health.

Why does existence have to be blissful? Who's definition of bliss should we be attuned to? Mine? Yours? Kim Jong Un?

The op is spot on in what he is describing. The discrepancy is that the "empty shell" lacks spirit.
Here is a explanation of the characteristic traits of such people:

Behavioral and Psychic Characteristics

Their behavior tends toward being glib, shallow, egotistical, narcissistic, mundane, predatory, and materialistic. Sometimes these traits are camouflaged by a polished social exterior, but anyone with a discerning eye can see through the disguise. They lack individuality, independent thinking, and are strongly biased toward holding a herd mentality. They lack comprehension of anything beyond the material sphere of the five senses, and have no interest in such metaphysical matters except as flashy accessories to boost their social image. They also appear entirely incapable of empathy, soul-searching, and willful self-sacrifice. Nevertheless, in the presence of others they can put on a flashy show of concern, distress, or altruism for purposes of social manipulation; for example, crocodile tears to elicit sympathy, or doing something nice for another solely to guilt trip them later and extort a favor.

Psychically scanning their consciousness reveals something interesting. There is a certain simplicity, flatness, and inertness to their essence, even if their intellects are highly developed.

Spiritless Humans

The closed minded mentality that I often run into on this site falls into that category imo.
These people (as stated above) often have highly developed intellect but that's not the problem.

Interesting post. I do remember something from the seventies about such a theory but, I cannot find it either. Having asked some friends in California if they remembered the story I was told that they didn't and that if it did exist it was probably some splinter spiritual group or fringe theorist having great fun.

"He He", but I was given a couple sites that do mention things on the topic.

Here they are. Hope this helps your theory. Stars and flags though for the intrigue.

Extraterrestrial Earth
or
Star Seed Walkins

PS. I also am with the crowd that wonders how you come to include yourself as one of the people having a soul when reality shows that one usually does not or cannot know ones self in the light of anothers experience of your person. So how can you say you do or do not have a soul when indeed everyone would make that claim.

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Non from me just questions for you for my my understanding.

However, some may see your judgements of them being a shell with no soul as hatred of their being from your beliefs perspective.

Its not about judgement, and even while doing a lits of possibilities to assess what he meant, and coming up with th ego word, when one awakens and has quite a realization, it still isn't a judgment, merely listing possibilities.

Its not that, here is the problem, whether inadvertant or not, this thread only serves the purpose to reinforce amongst elite that they are set aside, and different, and humans are cattle. And its not true.

In fact, the Higher Ups, when looking to set an example of who is the greatest, would find the least and most forsaken. Thats what they're like, and very humble of heart, with a great sense of humor and though not really tough love not as humanity understands that with a smiting judgmental god figure, they still can be quite hard on you to get you to shape up, because frequency traps can last for a time if allowed, sometimes they're not. If a soul is not accepting of them, their families do step in. I for one do not believe in the kind of tests here and these kind of realms even being allowed to exist and believe in the healing of all souls. And I mean it, there is no compromise with evil or allowance for people to harm themselves and others, not a good way to learn. While at the same time I keep trying to humble my heart to trust in Family and HS, Spirit of Peace and Love, what we call God, for I know that in the very highest understanding HS and Source Understands fully.

But you can always tell by the fruits. A true Higher Up helps and does what they can, with no concept of selfishness, all that they have belongs to everyone, and yet, there is still a mutual understanding of privacy, but they don't horde, they share, they help, they don't care about the shadow and dross items of this world, but the souls in it.

Anyone that takes advantage of another, works to fail them, tries to reduce and enslave their consciousness, and needs slaves even is a smaller point of consciousness, more machine than man.

Originally posted by TrueMessiah
The op is spot on in what he is describing. The discrepancy is that the "empty shell" lacks spirit.
Here is a explanation of the characteristic traits of such people:

Behavioral and Psychic Characteristics

Their behavior tends toward being glib, shallow, egotistical, narcissistic, mundane, predatory, and materialistic. Sometimes these traits are camouflaged by a polished social exterior, but anyone with a discerning eye can see through the disguise. They lack individuality, independent thinking, and are strongly biased toward holding a herd mentality. They lack comprehension of anything beyond the material sphere of the five senses, and have no interest in such metaphysical matters except as flashy accessories to boost their social image. They also appear entirely incapable of empathy, soul-searching, and willful self-sacrifice. Nevertheless, in the presence of others they can put on a flashy show of concern, distress, or altruism for purposes of social manipulation; for example, crocodile tears to elicit sympathy, or doing something nice for another solely to guilt trip them later and extort a favor.

Psychically scanning their consciousness reveals something interesting. There is a certain simplicity, flatness, and inertness to their essence, even if their intellects are highly developed.

Spiritless Humans

The closed minded mentality that I often run into on this site falls into that category imo.
These people (as stated above) often have highly developed intellect but that's not the problem.

Minus the DSM conclusion which would require the necessity of a lack of conscience, or some founation upon which their belief system rests, and some willingness behaviorally to respond and respect that in some way, this sound like sociopathy or, at the least, narcissisum, which is part of sociopathy...anyway.

As for the OP, and your response factored in as well, as what this thread attracts because of these is a glib, easy judgement and justification to rid the planet of certain others, or at the least do anything you want, because after all, you can just disregard them as the empty shell of the human being........

That's the problem with sociopathy...it is very good at turning the corner and pointing back at someone else, usually a victim of it, and identifying that person, as the one who is an empty shell. That's where this kind of thinking without all the facts leads one.....and it is a very slippery slope, getting suspiciously close to determining that any "uncontrolled" life that somehow manages to survive in this environment is empty without the "Lords," whomever they may be who decide what exists inside of whom, and therefore, soon, very soon, it is so easy, way too easy to define what is "better" and "worse" and more deserving of the gift of life and nature is a bastard without the machine involving itself....which is only as good as what made said machine.....

Originally posted by TrueMessiah
The op is spot on in what he is describing. The discrepancy is that the "empty shell" lacks spirit.
Here is a explanation of the characteristic traits of such people:

Behavioral and Psychic Characteristics

Their behavior tends toward being glib, shallow, egotistical, narcissistic, mundane, predatory, and materialistic. Sometimes these traits are camouflaged by a polished social exterior, but anyone with a discerning eye can see through the disguise. They lack individuality, independent thinking, and are strongly biased toward holding a herd mentality. They lack comprehension of anything beyond the material sphere of the five senses, and have no interest in such metaphysical matters except as flashy accessories to boost their social image. They also appear entirely incapable of empathy, soul-searching, and willful self-sacrifice. Nevertheless, in the presence of others they can put on a flashy show of concern, distress, or altruism for purposes of social manipulation; for example, crocodile tears to elicit sympathy, or doing something nice for another solely to guilt trip them later and extort a favor.

Psychically scanning their consciousness reveals something interesting. There is a certain simplicity, flatness, and inertness to their essence, even if their intellects are highly developed.

Spiritless Humans

The closed minded mentality that I often run into on this site falls into that category imo.
These people (as stated above) often have highly developed intellect but that's not the problem.

yes this is exactly how they behave, im glad someone else has an open mind enough to see what i have been talking about

Originally posted by tetra50

Originally posted by TrueMessiah
The op is spot on in what he is describing. The discrepancy is that the "empty shell" lacks spirit.
Here is a explanation of the characteristic traits of such people:

Behavioral and Psychic Characteristics

Their behavior tends toward being glib, shallow, egotistical, narcissistic, mundane, predatory, and materialistic. Sometimes these traits are camouflaged by a polished social exterior, but anyone with a discerning eye can see through the disguise. They lack individuality, independent thinking, and are strongly biased toward holding a herd mentality. They lack comprehension of anything beyond the material sphere of the five senses, and have no interest in such metaphysical matters except as flashy accessories to boost their social image. They also appear entirely incapable of empathy, soul-searching, and willful self-sacrifice. Nevertheless, in the presence of others they can put on a flashy show of concern, distress, or altruism for purposes of social manipulation; for example, crocodile tears to elicit sympathy, or doing something nice for another solely to guilt trip them later and extort a favor.

Psychically scanning their consciousness reveals something interesting. There is a certain simplicity, flatness, and inertness to their essence, even if their intellects are highly developed.

Spiritless Humans

The closed minded mentality that I often run into on this site falls into that category imo.
These people (as stated above) often have highly developed intellect but that's not the problem.

Minus the DSM conclusion which would require the necessity of a lack of conscience, or some founation upon which their belief system rests, and some willingness behaviorally to respond and respect that in some way, this sound like sociopathy or, at the least, narcissisum, which is part of sociopathy...anyway.

As for the OP, and your response factored in as well, as what this thread attracts because of these is a glib, easy judgement and justification to rid the planet of certain others, or at the least do anything you want, because after all, you can just disregard them as the empty shell of the human being........

That's the problem with sociopathy...it is very good at turning the corner and pointing back at someone else, usually a victim of it, and identifying that person, as the one who is an empty shell. That's where this kind of thinking without all the facts leads one.....and it is a very slippery slope, getting suspiciously close to determining that any "uncontrolled" life that somehow manages to survive in this environment is empty without the "Lords," whomever they may be who decide what exists inside of whom, and therefore, soon, very soon, it is so easy, way too easy to define what is "better" and "worse" and more deserving of the gift of life and nature is a bastard without the machine involving itself....which is only as good as what made said machine.....

everyone is essential to the balance of things, EVERYONE.

there is no discrimination between the empty ones and the occupied ones...

we both share this same plane of existence, except on a spiritual and metaphysical level we are completely different.

I fail to see why you keep thinking we want to rid the world of soulless people....we dont..i just want to make as many people aware of the differences...

Originally posted by k1k1to

Originally posted by TrueMessiah
The op is spot on in what he is describing. The discrepancy is that the "empty shell" lacks spirit.
Here is a explanation of the characteristic traits of such people:

Behavioral and Psychic Characteristics

Their behavior tends toward being glib, shallow, egotistical, narcissistic, mundane, predatory, and materialistic. Sometimes these traits are camouflaged by a polished social exterior, but anyone with a discerning eye can see through the disguise. They lack individuality, independent thinking, and are strongly biased toward holding a herd mentality. They lack comprehension of anything beyond the material sphere of the five senses, and have no interest in such metaphysical matters except as flashy accessories to boost their social image. They also appear entirely incapable of empathy, soul-searching, and willful self-sacrifice. Nevertheless, in the presence of others they can put on a flashy show of concern, distress, or altruism for purposes of social manipulation; for example, crocodile tears to elicit sympathy, or doing something nice for another solely to guilt trip them later and extort a favor.

Psychically scanning their consciousness reveals something interesting. There is a certain simplicity, flatness, and inertness to their essence, even if their intellects are highly developed.

Spiritless Humans

The closed minded mentality that I often run into on this site falls into that category imo.
These people (as stated above) often have highly developed intellect but that's not the problem.

yes this is exactly how they behave, im glad someone else has an open mind enough to see what i have been talking about

My mind is plenty open, and plenty operational, thank you....
But I possess the capacity for empathy and knowing that how you see people., is in fact, not be all their is to them. I have seen people as is described, and have also known that this is a facade because they sense or have learned through, sometimes hard experience, that resistance is futile, and have suffered and cannot anymore, at least the moment I am observing them and see only this in them, afford to be "real,"

it's not that I do not argue with the premise of what you say....I am warning you that judging which person is empty and whom is not, can get you in very big trouble, because you have all this faith in your interpretation and impression and perception....but you may only see so much.....

You may not see this person at the end of their day, by themselves, in what they hang onto as the "safety of their home," and deflate from a world that demands this vacuousness of them to make a living and keep their sanity......
I find your OP disturbingly lacking in this regard. You interpretation or what you have been led to believe is not invalid, as such, but what you are doing with it is potentially a foolish trap, and in the end will lead you away from that life and nature that you speak of here.

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Right o. This poster is empty. Empty in the head that is.
Yes you are sooooo special. Sorry but NOT.

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I fail to see why you keep thinking we want to rid the world of soulless people....we dont..i just want to make as many people aware of the differences...

Because I see the world and what is happening in it daily, and what you say here is so easy a justification with motives so different from your own, and the knowledge you put forth here, is easy to be twisted into something else entirely. The problem is I see the harm done every day by so many who have realized knowledge such as this, and used as a way to denude life in its every form and justifiy their doing so, whether you look at it this way or not.

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You'd have been better off letting it get buried. I just dont get the gall of some people. And to not even have the info to back it up, that is the epitome of arrogance.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
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Delusions of grandeur like I said.
Cya.

It's so easy to brush out of the box thoughts like this isn't it, with just a simple "logic" sentence, backed by "established" science...

Fact of the matter is that no-one can explain why atoms and particles a lot small than atoms can suddenly come together and form what we call the human body, simply because you add a recipe for it's individual construction.

Think about it, DNA... for some reason and beyond my understanding, can interpret and affect energy to appear in a certain way. That is WILD!

Now, once this shell of a body has been created by the recipe of DNA, who's to say that there's not a bit more to it that we understand or are lead to believe at this point? Science? Medicine? Science doesn't really fathom 1% of how and why the universe exists the way it does. It's all educated guessing, moving down a road that forks out every 2 meters, and when something comes along that changes out perspective they either go 2 metres back and take a different fork, keeps going or chooses a new fork in the road.

Medicine? Don't get me started... we might have worked out a part of how the shell is working, so we can fix minor operational dependencies but the mind is still a complete work of art. It's funny how much time is spend working on medication that they only really know if it works / or if it doesn't work... they can't explain why it works.

Medicine should really start working together with chemists and physicists, that would yield greater results. The body (and you know EVERY SINGLE THING in this world) is made of energy, just build with different recipes.
Find out how to affect those particular couplings of energy and you'd be able to do ANYTHING you can imagine.

Maybe that is what the occupied human beings are about... knowing how to affect energy, shape or work with it at your will.

Now someone asked "why don't you know why you have a soul?"

Game plan? You can join in, but obey the rules... 12 hours of game play = 76 years of human life? But while playing you are prohibited from disclosing the state of the "world". For what we know, humans could be nothing but a simple race of beings that are simply going about their business doing what their race does best. Reproducing and gathering. To be honest a lot of human beings exhibit nothing more than I would find similar in a lot of animal races. Humans are really not that advanced from a universal point of view, but humans did finally get the ability to make a version of progress.

Also, imagine that if the idea of reincarnation is true to a certain degree, the very thought of being able to remember past lives or occupations would be down right de-constructive to the idea of reincarnation. What if your last past life was nothing less than your idea of perfect and here you are, stuck in a vessel that you can already see isn't going to achieve anything much or lead to an interesting life.
That would kill the idea... you have millions of suicides every day from souls trying to get a different "game".

Then there's my favourite.

It's a FACT that the entire universe is made up of energy, and we are beginning to observe the concept of entanglement which signals to me that this energy is open for modifications.

Now think about what I said about DNA being nothing more than a blueprint for how the specific atoms and lesser energy that makes up your particular body acts and interacts with eachother and energy around it.

Energy can for a fact NEVER disappear, it is always present in one state or another. You can't add to it you can't take it away. If you breathe out, that energy leaves your body, has gone from a state of something else inside you to become atoms that make up a mix of gasses, which in turn gets absorbed by some other combinations of energy and so forth.

We know now that we can encode messages into atoms... they can carry things along with them, residue if you want.

Once this vessel we know as a body is coming to a halt because the machinery made up by the DNA blueprint simply isn't durable enough, the energy combinations disperse and turn into something else. Some become the stink of the rotting corpse, some become earth, some become something else.

But what if that little thing we so often refer to as a soul is a set of energy combinations that is much more durable than anything we can imagine.
It could move on unknowingly, be told to move on, or choose to move on. And it could be carrying residues of all the energy that it came to contact with throughout the life time of the vessel it was occupying.

I bet the idea of resetting the soul is present. It would make sense... too much info and too many memories would mess up any soul, but once a while, the energy that makes up the soul doesn't have all the residue removed and....

...brings it with itself into the next occupation where the vessels DNA construct accepts the souls energy combinations as sort of a source code.

The brain is nothing more than an interpreter of energy signals. It is so powerful that we can use the tool of the eyes to look at what we call a flower, "read" the energy combinations it is made up of, feed that data to the brain and the brain returns an answer which we understand as "rose".

When something is stuck on the energy combinations of the soul, the brain will sometimes receive a rogue signal that wasn't meant to be received. This is where past life remembrance comes into play.

But here's what I think........

Since energy in any shape can be affected by any other energy, I believe that the soul sometimes can pick up unwanted residues of energy, say fx. residue from another vessels past life.
This is broadcast to the brain and we in the current vessel get interpreted signals that we cannot explain or believe is our own, but it really is nothing more than energy out of place.

There are just some threads that I feel I need to run away from. This is one of those. Oh my God.

Originally posted by karen61560
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Right o. This poster is empty. Empty in the head that is.
Yes you are sooooo special. Sorry but NOT.

To recognize judgement as ego is a necessary step in the awakening process.

You sound more like the empty human trying to convince himself that he is 'occupied'. *shrug*... just saying...

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See, I think you get it. And to some degree, I agree. But I also think that mankind's inherent observation of the "system" of physics on into basic living projects into what he observes, creating the delusion for him that he can come up with a way to ganglify, in his many indiviual expressions naturally, the cells of existence like the cells of a huge brain, a hivedom, so to speak, and think the greatest conspiracy we observe here on sites like these, is parts being manipulated into doing just this, and then a judgement reached, to proliferate more of the same judgement and then behavior.....when there are so many variables in the equation, surely x,y, and z, which we use routinely and sometimes, now, n, care barely hope to express the environment much less use it to manipulate it. To have that discussion borders on the metaphysical. mechanical physics and math and blending all of them. But these are the maths we rely upon to express our need to alter a certain equation, and the OP is speaking of a real thing, surely, but without understanding the framework that is exhibted or observed within is to reach a very cold mentality, which denudes the very life you are in the very process of.