Stunning Corn Comparison: GMO versus NON GMO

Originally posted by Skada

Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

Corn also isn't the most nutrient rich vegetable out there. You don't really eat corn as part of a healthy diet when there are so many other vegetables far better for you.

Heck, corn, as we know it, can't even exist in the wild without human help. Its not a natural food.

I agree they should be labeled though.

edit on 27-3-2013 by Hopechest because: (no reason given)

I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but Corn is not a "Vegetable". It is a grain, it is in the grass family. It IS a "natural" food, because the Mayans have been growing it longer then the USA has been the USA.

And as we know it, it is pollinated mostly by the wind.

Take a general botany class before you spout non-sense.

Also, GMO should be labeled.

No he is kinda right, there are theories but no one nos for sure. It is believe to be the domesticated form of teosinte. (The term "teosinte" describes all species and subspecies in the genus Zea, excluding Zea mays ssp. mays.) en.m.wikipedia.org...
And I took a couple botany classes and you are right wind polinated.... Wich is also bad because the gmo farm next door can taint your corn, then turn around and sue you for copyright infringment. (As I understand it)

reply to post by neo96


Can you detect all the bacteria you breath in or see them spread on your kitchen counter? I don't think so. The corn is bad at a cellular level. You can't detect the difference because the difference is not perceivable with the senses we are equipped with.

This is my speculation and not founded on scientific studies that the breakdown of the food is not the same in our stomach. The piece of corn looks like corn and smells like corn but does it digest like corn? Are the same nutrients available? Some say it's the same and others say nay...I say that we try to emulate what is already invented and sustainable whether we manipulate it or not. So, I like it the natural way.

Do you think we can make air purification machines as sophisticated as a tree. Another example of a perfect machines that nature already provides. Let's work with it instead of trying to control it.

reply to post by Hopechest


Actually, corn is a staple crop in many south American countries much like wheat is a staple crop in America. It is a universal crop that is both good for you and it taste good. The problem with GMO is when products like 'roundup' and various other types of insecticides are injected into the seed. Couple this information with the fact that the soil is depleted of natural vitamins and minerals in many areas of the world and this mix becomes a recipe for disaster.

First, the body is assaulted by the residual chemicals when the food is eaten. Next, the food does not give the body enough vitamins and minerals to defend and cleanse itself from the chemicals. Over time one would expect to see an early disintegration of the body in the form of disease, which is what we are seeing in many western societies.

Apparently these facts are known in many countries. They refuse to import American crops and are fighting to keep GMO out of their borders. Peru is but one example.

Who could blame them. They consider food their medicine.

If I were an unscrupulous person I could control the life span of a population using such foods.

Welcome to the NWO

reply to post by bitsforbytes


Sorry sight,smell, taste have been used for centuries in determining whether or not food is safe to consume apparently some people think they need a slip from FDA, or some "scientist" to know whether or not things are "safe" to eat.

Originally posted by nworeport
The problem with GMO is when products like 'roundup' and various other types of insecticides are injected into the seed.

Three statements in this sentence:
- that 'roundup' is injected into GMO's
- that insecticides are injected into GMO's
- that these ingredients are injected into, specifically, the seed.

All wrong.

Why is it so hard to find an anti-GMO person who actually knows what on earth they're talking about?

All plants deplete nutrients from the soil, some more than others. Tobacco (from what i was told in botany class) for instance, will ruin the soil for years. Now I understand tobacco and corn are different, but (back to main question) are you saying that gmo corn strips the nutrients faster than regular corn

reply to post by neo96


Well I think having an elected group of people who actually eat the food that they approve and honestly do their jobs is a good thing. Does my wish meet reality; not totally since some believe that GMO is favoured. In the "developed world" it seems like what ever looks good and tastes good is good. People have a warped view of what food is and which foods are natural and semi-natural or fake. It is an endless tug of war between the natural and GMO factions. Studies prove one another disproves the first. How can we make an objective census of the situation when so much rides of these decisions?

People are too lazy to cook and learn recipes or techniques to preserve foods. That's what super markets are for: to provide solutions in form of food to the hungry populous.
So through this disconnect the hungry masses make the wrong choices and give their tokens of approval in the form of money to these imposters. Why? Because mass production is cheap and people don't know what to buy and what to make of it. So they go for the cheap and/or easy solutions. When it comes down to it, money is a very predominant factor when choosing food, so mass produced cheap GMOs are what people buy. They give their money which is their OK with what they are buying. It's a genius idea.

If you have the choice between a full free groceries with GMOs or the equivalent in quantity with non-GMO sin it, which would you take?

I think I would choose the non-GMO. Wouldn't you?

reply to post by tinyDAWK


I don't know if the soil will be depleted of nutrients faster, but some of the round up sprayed will end up on the soil. With rain this will contaminate it.

Yup, that can't be good!

reply to post by alfa1


This is what our saviours the food industries support and what some of us candidly support to:

Our intelligence is making bees dumber

I really hope our natural way of spreading seeds for free and make honey for free are going to be okay.

How will we be able to "busy like a bee" if they are not around any more? Give your money to the right people people.

Originally posted by rugger
Come-on people we need to impeach this bastard now and that's just the start.I am physically sick from the air and the food and the water and so are millions of you and not by accident we need to save our grandchildren from these sons of bitches.cancer is an epidemic.allergic disorders.you name the decease its becoming an epidemic and not by accjident this is being done to us.We need to get this stopped.

And your answer is to "impeach this bastard" - that's just brilliant.

Do, or at least, say something constructive - what you are going to do - no, what you are willing to do.

Rather then tell people (not you I note) "impeach the bastard"

They should have never allowed the patenting of life....

How they allowed Montsato to monopolize seeds and patent every single seed as their own is complete crap! This mistake should have been undone considering the future implications of patenting life, how it's reduced our food crops to food craps that are showered in gallons of poison is beyond me.


Actually I've got a theory but...you're not going to like it.


What if....for a change of perspective, what if the GMO foods and exposure to certain methods (vaccines, geochemming, fluride) are necessary to expedite an evolutionary change? Either way, I know we're screwed in the future, I'm edging closer and closer to uncovering the truth and it looks very much like an enslaved human race in the real world matrix run by machines.

reply to post by Hopechest

Corn also isn't the most nutrient rich vegetable out there. You don't really eat corn as part of a healthy diet when there are so many other vegetables far better for you.

Corn Meal
High Fructose Corn Syrup
Cattle Feed
Pig Feed
Chicken Feed

It's Everywhere

reply to post by neo96


And you believe everybody else was, why?

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by nworeport
The problem with GMO is when products like 'roundup' and various other types of insecticides are injected into the seed.

Three statements in this sentence:
- that 'roundup' is injected into GMO's
- that insecticides are injected into GMO's
- that these ingredients are injected into, specifically, the seed.

All wrong.

Why is it so hard to find an anti-GMO person who actually knows what on earth they're talking about?

If I remember correctly there are 3 ways to produce GM crops that are readily used today.

The older method involved injecting plant tumors so I can understand the misinformation posted earlier and what that poster intended on saying.

There is no reasonable justification for not allowing such products to be labeled. None. Zero. Zip. It is pure corruption, proof in and of itself that the product has something to hide. Monsanto at best cares more about profits than humans or the Earth, and at worst their practices are so evil they imply a sadistic desire to sicken and poison the populace, controlling the entire world's food supply at the cost of the natural order of the Earth. They risk destroying natural plant species leaving us with a barren Earth of plants that are sterile. They have engineered plants that chemically produce their own toxic pesticides and then we eat it and obviously it poisons us too. So what if the organ failure, RNA damage and cancer comes years later. Who can prove anything? And who cares? Monsanto won't serve their own GMO products in their own corporate cafeterias. It's too corrupt, too evil and too disgusting for there to be one shred of good attached to it. Proponents will argue they are feeding the world's hungry. Who cares if they are fed with poison and food that has no nutritive value? The truth is there is more than enough food for everyone already if GREED was removed from the human equation. Monsanto and the minds behind its James Bond villain level of world threat and destruction needs to be globally recognized as the threat to all life and humanity that it is and stopped. Any agency that conspires to keep the people from being able to know what they are eating and hide the truth of the risks from the populace needs to equally be held to account. The mission of Monsanto is no less than to treat all life on this planet ultimately as their own commercial product, and to eliminate all nature so they can claim to own all life on earth. That is their end game. We cannot passively allow this continue.

reply to post by 0001391


Exactly. So we can do this without reinventing the wheel. We simply stop buying their food. Also, we need to push hard to get food labelled properly and honestly. After labelling is implemented we shall see how the free market will react to this.

The above would be half the battle. The other half is to pay attention to who funds who during a political campaign, not always easy. Vote for the ones that don't get big funding from the food tycoons for obvious reasons.

Wich is also bad because the gmo farm next door can taint your corn, then turn around and sue you for copyright infringment. (As I understand it)

This has already happened in Canada.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
If it helps solve the world food problem, making it last longer better for you etc I see no problem with it.
Of course test it but the positives in GM food to me make it a subject that we need to study more and make food better for everyone.
It could save millions of people.

It don't make food better. Do you know why foods are genetically modified? So that they will be resistant to the herbicide Roundup.Farmers can spray the whole field with this stuff and it will only kill the weeds. not the crop. It ain't about making food better or larger harvests. It's about selling Roundup Lately there is a nifty new modification in play. The GM plant will not produce a viable seed. So you got to buy new seed from the company It's about profit. Feeding the world got nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by nworeport
The problem with GMO is when products like 'roundup' and various other types of insecticides are injected into the seed.

Three statements in this sentence:
- that 'roundup' is injected into GMO's
- that insecticides are injected into GMO's
- that these ingredients are injected into, specifically, the seed.

All wrong.

Why is it so hard to find an anti-GMO person who actually knows what on earth they're talking about?

Be cause they also beleive in Unicorns. They are also saddened that they cannot wish away the problems of the world.

There are literally to many Humans on the planet to feed (easily). when we all fart we produce more green house gases (methane etc.) than all the animal combined. Yet we have decided that cows need fart filters.

We now live decades longer than we used to. 100 years ago 60 was a ripe old age... now it's a minimum expection. We used to "die out" at the first big health issue (heart attack /tumor, Rickets, Scurvy, syplisis, what ever). Instead being repaired or cured we died. We will now keep people alive who cannot appreciate the light of the sun...but we do not stop medical research... we think we under stand the risks.

We require the Sahara desert to become a place of food production. We tarrace the sides of mountains, to get more production. Then we have the gall to complain the food is not good enough. Heck we produce "food" that is almost 80-90% not food (snack foods etc.) and we love it!

The reason our lifes have gotten longer, and fuller and more diverse is that about 7000 odd years ago we started this neat thing called "cooperation". Societies flurished, empires grew and fell by the decisions of mankind and we had access to a unspoiled planet. The little "baby" that that is mankind has out grown the bath tub. We are running out of the bath water ...and we have looked around and realized that we do not have parents here to intervene and keep us safe.

So instead of settling down to the brass tacks of the situation and figuring out what NEEDS TO BE done we have argurments about happy pigs - free range pigs. The end product, Bacon, is pretty much the same regardless of if the pig was happy or not. We think chickens should be happier too. If I handed most of you scrambled free range chicken eggs most of you WILL say they taste wrong in a blind taste test. You would be upset they were unpasturized.

(I'll just stay on food issues for abit)

Yes there are issues in bulk food production be they factory farming, Gmo produce, poor distribution etc.. The issue is that the Baby is TOO big and too hungry. If we believe the doom sayers in 30-40 years we will have crisis in food, water, and energy production. In all three areas we Will need to consider utilising many more aspects of advancing technolog just to meet our needs. And advances in technology only only occur through cooperation gang!

Either HARD ass governments or corporations will make it happen. We need BULk food not happy food. each of us try to grow tomato in haphazard fashion is not going to save the society.

I think the unicorn lovers will vote for happy pig and chickens in the next couple of decades and things will go fubar.

I think we will end up eating rice flavored yogurts produced in million liter tanks and the the only fresh meat will long pork. The few of us left will not care if our food is Gmo or not ...we will be glad to have someting to eat.

SO do I think we should label gmo food ...yes! In the same size of print that we list the vitimen content. I cynically beleave that once we label the foods, that hardly any one will actually care enough to read the label.

BUT I hope that after that we might cooperate on the bigger issues that making the gaint yogurt bowl.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Considering all corn has been genetically modified since we started planting it, as long as it is tested I see no problem with it.

Oh Great. That's just the attitude isn't it? I mean really?????????????????????????????