It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Is it possible to be a Christian and a believer in Islam?

page: 1
5
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:03 PM
link   
I've been reading the Quran a bit, and I can't say I've been disappointed.

It is firmly a book designed to strengthen faith of those who believe in One God.

Muhammad and Jesus are alike in many respects, but could one exist without the other?
Jesus was a teacher. A prophet, "yea and more than a prophet." He spread faith among a people who had once been close to God, bringing them close to Him once more.
Was he the son of God?
What if he was?
What if Muhammad was too, but he just didn't know it?
Jesus taught through practice, but Muhammad was a true Scribe for the Word. Why do Christians and Muslims seem to fight each other when they believe in the same thing, that is, there is one god and he is all knowing, all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving.
Why can't we be like Him?



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:11 PM
link   
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 


They fight over labels...

Why does one need to label his/her beliefs...

Every religion has certain truths... You're only dedicated to one religion when you accept the label they impose on you...

Believe what you will... Labels matter not




posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:11 PM
link   

Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch
I've been reading the Quran a bit, and I can't say I've been disappointed.

It is firmly a book designed to strengthen faith of those who believe in One God.


But was Muhammad the last prophet or was he just suffering delusions?

It is a puzzle why an all mighty god choose an illiterate, 40 year old camel herder from a cultural and geographical backwater to spread his message amongst humanity.


edit on 18-3-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:11 PM
link   
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 





Is it possible to be a Christian and a believer in Islam?


Who's going to stop you?

2nd.




posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:16 PM
link   
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 
The fighting between Christians and Muslims goes back too far, and hard feelings run deep. Blame it on Abraham. It's been going on since Ishmael and Isaac- each claiming to be the "chosen" son whom Abraham took to sacrifice on the order of God, who then told Abraham it was "just a test of his faith".

Have you ever noticed how many examples there were of serious sibling rivalry in the Bible? Cain and Abel, Ishmael and Isaac, Esau and Jacob just to name a few. I think it is human nature to compete with our brother for position of being the "chosen son" and the fighting between Christianity and Islam is just an extension of that.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:16 PM
link   
To answer your question, No- It is impossible to be a Christian and believe in Islam. My answer is not an attempt to evangelize , it is simply an answer to the question.

Basic Christian tenet says that Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life, no man comes to the father but through Him. It is an exclusive religion. To be a Christian, by definition, is to accept Christ as the only means of salvation AND to reject all others.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:17 PM
link   

Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch
I've been reading the Quran a bit, and I can't say I've been disappointed.

It is firmly a book designed to strengthen faith of those who believe in One God.

Muhammad and Jesus are alike in many respects, but could one exist without the other?
Jesus was a teacher. A prophet, "yea and more than a prophet." He spread faith among a people who had once been close to God, bringing them close to Him once more.
Was he the son of God?
What if he was?
What if Muhammad was too, but he just didn't know it?
Jesus taught through practice, but Muhammad was a true Scribe for the Word. Why do Christians and Muslims seem to fight each other when they believe in the same thing, that is, there is one god and he is all knowing, all powerful, all loving, and all forgiving.
Why can't we be like Him?


Yes its possible what you say.
But only, when you stay on the outside, that is, " being religious ".

see,
being religious has nothing to do with ' knowing the deity you say you believe in '.

Many say they 'believe in something ' .
Thats not valid.
'something ' isnt good enough.
That can be as well the devil or God.

so
you havent came close enough, yet.
What you re doing, is " being religious " only.
Without knowing the difference between the deities.

Hope you find the only right One
between all the false

bless



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:20 PM
link   

Originally posted by micmerci
To answer your question, No- It is impossible to be a Christian and believe in Islam. My answer is not an attempt to evangelize , it is simply an answer to the question.

Basic Christian tenet says that Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and THE life, no man comes to the father but through Him. It is an exclusive religion. To be a Christian, by definition, is to accept Christ as the only means of salvation AND to reject all others.


thank you.
you stated it better as me.

...im just very hurt by all the false zealots
who gave Him a bad name



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:21 PM
link   

Originally posted by littled16
The fighting between Christians and Muslims goes back too far, and hard feelings run deep.


Indeed.
Long before the first crusade was launched in 1096, Muslim forces had invaded Sicily, Cyprus, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Malta, Sardinia and Armenia. They twice burnt the monastery of Monte Cassino to the ground and attacked Rome in 846, forcing Pope Leo IV to promises a yearly tribute of 25,000 silver coins.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.)

It is fair to say the Islam vs Christianity animosity goes far back.



edit on 18-3-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:22 PM
link   
No, you cannot be both. Because Christians believe Jesus was crucified for their sins, that Jesus is God, and what not. Muslims do not believe Jesus was crucified or he died for sins, that he was a man, and what not. There are big differences that will be confusing to believe at the same time. I remember when I was a Christian I did accept Muhammad as a prophet, but didn't call myself a Muslim or believe Islams interpretation of Jesus.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:23 PM
link   
reply to post by Lone12
 


If you fix your eyes on man, you will be disappointed every time, if you fix your eyes on Jesus, you will never be disappointed.

I hope you find people in your life that only want to show you Him.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:24 PM
link   
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 

Dude .. you seriously don't know who Jesus is. Jesus is God Incarnate. Muhammad was just an admitted thief who murdered his political opponents. A Christian has no need of Islam. If for some reason a Christian wants to believe in Islam, then he or she would have to dump his/her own Christian beliefs in order to buy into Islam. If that's what he/she wants to do .. that's their business ... But it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a Christian and a Muslim at the same time and believe in both. The two are theologically diametrically opposed.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:25 PM
link   
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 


Read Life of Pi, or just watch the Movie.

The main character in that book was Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or something to that effect.

As it applies to faith, what does it matter what anyone says you can or can't do?
Believe whatever you want to believe, even when someone like me comes along and tells you it's all make-believe.

In the end, you're going to believe whatever you want to believe regardless and even in spite of what some folks tell you.

Make your own choices and your own rules. You are the one that has to live with your own self.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:27 PM
link   

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by littled16
The fighting between Christians and Muslims goes back too far, and hard feelings run deep.


Indeed.
Long before the first crusade was launched in 1096, Muslim forces had invaded Sicily, Cyprus, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Malta, Sardinia and Armenia. They twice burnt the monastery of Monte Cassino to the ground and attacked Rome in 846, forcing Pope Leo IV to promises a yearly tribute of 25,000 silver coins.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.)

It is fair to say the Islam vs Christianity animosity goes far back.



edit on 18-3-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)


very true what you say
[ though it should be 660AD not 355AD]

anyway,
Evil knew very well how to devise his sun-religion [ catholisism]
and moon religion [ islam ]
and how to collide them both.

...with the 1 only goal,
to discredit réal christianism

that is - the kind, who waits for Him
and doesnt try to ' rule this world nor the neighbour'




..im deeply sorry,
how the False succeeded to creep into christianity
and made it a joke....in many ways.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:33 PM
link   

Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
 


Read Life of Pi, or just watch the Movie.

The main character in that book was Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or something to that effect.

As it applies to faith, what does it matter what anyone says you can or can't do?
Believe whatever you want to believe, even when someone like me comes along and tells you it's all make-believe.

In the end, you're going to believe whatever you want to believe regardless and even in spite of what some folks tell you.

Make your own choices and your own rules. You are the one that has to live with your own self.



You sound sweet and reasonable
but you are leadiing people astray like a witch.

see;
you have no power, whatsoever
the only existant power, is the spiritual world, who will judge one, after one died here.

You may say what you want
but all you do, is leading souls astray, like this.

Which is a horrible Offense.

now
you dont believe anyway what i say here
- but im telling you its true.
And, spiritually speaking, you are under me.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:46 PM
link   
extended:

you may hate it,
but the 1 only way to make sense of everything that is happening,
is to accept the concept God said it is.

And that concept is
that Female represents all the Attributes [ like love, earth, etc]
and Male represents " the Authority over those same Attributes ".


meaning,
Witches are women who have no male as head: but Evil Masculine as 'head'.

female needs His male as [ spiritual] head
or Evil will be her head

- i agree immediately, that there arent [many] males who are capable of being a females head
- yet they should

but this tells only the incredible mess we got into
devised by satan himself



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:46 PM
link   
regardless what others may say with all their metaphysics and philosophies we as humans have these things called words that we developed to describe objects, feelings, concepts, ideas, etc - as much as some people try to depreciate the value and power of words using some kind of metaphysical bs saying "oh no thats only labels and we shouldnt stick to labels and why should we label everything, they're only words oh my how sad of us how weak and poor minded of a species we are - cry cry cry oh the humanity" well you know, we kinda need to call stuff names, we need to get words for things to define them - its been like that since we started TALKING yes. Unlike any other species on this planet we're the only ones who can actually talk - not some basic form of communication! 200 thousand years ago we came up with SPEECH! full conversations! And we started inventing words for all kinds of # to define it, so we could talk about it and share it with others and that trend kept going until today... we even have this things call dictionaries for you people that hate that we "have to label everything" hell... theres the label book for ya!

Anyway... moving along ... so the correct answer is "no" - you can't be a christian and a believer in islam. Apart from the obvious sour milk between them, that is not the reason... the actual reason is that despite of what they have in common, you'll come to a point later on where they blatantly consider the other "infidel" or "spiritually poor"... and you now, at the end "A is the way to salvation" "B is the way to salvation" therefore - no. You can't be both.

You can't be a jew neither just before you get any ideas...



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 04:50 PM
link   
:bnghd:

Ok... You can't be one label and claim another...

Whatever guys...


Heres an easy solution to the issue at hand...

IF you need a label for your beliefs yet don't agree entirely with any specific religion in its entirety

YOU are a spiritualist...

which is still a label...


edit on 18-3-2013 by Akragon because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 05:02 PM
link   
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
 


No.

im sorry - OP is closer to the truth as you.

Your wanted opinion is that ' theres no spiritual world above us, at all '

Boy how wrong you are !!

..if you d only have a glánce...you d cringe

But since it is your own choice to believe 'in nothing '
[ which is caused by the Dark itself]
dont go 'advicing ' others.



posted on Mar, 18 2013 @ 05:09 PM
link   
reply to post by Phoenix267
 


I am not asking for what other Muslims and Christians think.

I am asking what other people think about Muslims and Christians.



new topics

top topics



 
5
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join