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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
This simple noticing moment to moment is a kind of awakening that what is arising is not necessary for our core existence as awareness. That understanding alone in any given moment can be very freeing and the basis on which a greater depth can be felt into and recognized.
vethumanbeing
That awareness would be living precisely in 'the moment' not a second before or beyond. This is tricky and it seems the Eastern has conquered the timing with meditation techniques, not so the Westerners. Your explaination is good, and for some reason during the vivid dreamtime it is nowhere more apparent for me. Awareness=recognision of (something immediate/instantaneous) a happening so LARGE that can change everything you thought you knew to be true. It is sort of a giving it up to the Universe, or God or whatever is your definition (or causal) describing the event, it could be something so small, the fact you were aware of it (as a direct participant) is a beautiful miracle occuring to potencially grow your soul/spirit.
itsnowagain
It is only the thoughts that give rise to the 'belief' that you cannot be constantly present. Those thoughts arise presently and are known to be arising.
Awareness is ever 'present'. You are awareness. Awareness is - it is the seeing/knowing aspect.
Even in deep sleep there is awareness - but there are no 'things' appearing. In deep sleep 'you' (as a character) do not appear but awareness (your true nature) still is.
On waking there appears light and along with it apparent 'things'. This is when consciousness (wakefulness) happens. Awareness is aware of the light of consciousness - presently - always presently.
itsnowagain
How can you be 'aware' of 5 minutes ago? You might have 'thoughts' about 5 minutes ago (that you are aware of now) but you cannot hear or see 5 minutes ago.
Seeing and hearing happen presently. Everything happens presently.
This is presence
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
itsnowagain
It is only the thoughts that give rise to the 'belief' that you cannot be constantly present. Those thoughts arise presently and are known to be arising.
Awareness is ever 'present'. You are awareness. Awareness is - it is the seeing/knowing aspect.
Even in deep sleep there is awareness - but there are no 'things' appearing. In deep sleep 'you' (as a character) do not appear but awareness (your true nature) still is.
On waking there appears light and along with it apparent 'things'. This is when consciousness (wakefulness) happens. Awareness is aware of the light of consciousness - presently - always presently.
Cognitive awareness has 5 physical senses to be filtered through as well as memory (cohesive thought) this is a process and not instantaneous. You are talking of practices/teaching hundreds of years old and though valid are not the normal thinking pattern to the average Westerner. I agree with you, but what you are describing is a very Sublime/subtle type of awareness that requires either the genetic mind/body makeup or years of rigorous study. Perhaps as an abstract could be understood by a layperson, if they cared to understand Light/Awareness/Enlightment are the same part and parcel of understanding the nature of BEINGNESS.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
itsnowagain
How can you be 'aware' of 5 minutes ago? You might have 'thoughts' about 5 minutes ago (that you are aware of now) but you cannot hear or see 5 minutes ago.
Seeing and hearing happen presently. Everything happens presently.
This is presence
Not aware of the five minutes ago, it is a rememberance of it. Seeing and hearing all things happening presently simoultainiously is next to impossible because of the distractions attached to again the 5 senses (is that a lion approaching, lookout the volcanos errupting again, who is texting me now). I say it is near impossible to attain complete awareness unless you are in a somnombulistic state.edit on 1-4-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Does a new born baby have the ability to 'think'? A new born baby can see and hear and feel but it has not 'learned' words or language yet so does not have the ability to 'think' about 5 minutes ago - it is only 'aware' of now. A new born baby has no 'idea' about anything - it is just sensing the environment.
Awareness has to be there for you to know there is a thought occurring. The thought is not awareness - the knowing that a thought is occurring is awareness.
The belief that 'awareness' needs practicing is complete rubbish. Does a baby have to practice awareness - no it is pure awareness, just like a cat that sits with it's ears twitching, it hears everything because it is not 'lost in thought'. Humans are lost in thought - lost in time.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Does a new born baby have the ability to 'think'? A new born baby can see and hear and feel but it has not 'learned' words or language yet so does not have the ability to 'think' about 5 minutes ago - it is only 'aware' of now. A new born baby has no 'idea' about anything - it is just sensing the environment.
Awareness has to be there for you to know there is a thought occurring. The thought is not awareness - the knowing that a thought is occurring is awareness.
The belief that 'awareness' needs practicing is complete rubbish. Does a baby have to practice awareness - no it is pure awareness, just like a cat that sits with it's ears twitching, it hears everything because it is not 'lost in thought'. Humans are lost in thought - lost in time.
A newborn is HELPLESS and totally unaware (that is not a good reference point). The others are fine. I agree with you on all other suppostions. We are all in the state of becoming.
Originally posted by 11118
It is hard at first to cultivate a genuine love and appreciation for life - especially in your current state. When you consciously find within the present moment the love in each situation you begin to build upon the seeing of that love. The first conscious choice to find this love is the foundation and the second empowers the first, the third empowers the two before it, etc...
It takes practice and will to begin to acquire this perspective and like a snow ball effect, the more you attempt to see the more clearer and easier it becomes.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
I never said you were a newborn.edit on 4-4-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by simplyLOVE
reply to post by 11118
Tell me the meaning of this parable, i say this to test you and if you answer correctly I will then put my actual question to you:
There were two roofers, they both had ladders to get to the roof, but one of them carried his ladder with him even when he was at the top fixing the roof, the other left his ladder and went about his job on the roof much more easily because he didn't have to accomodate for the ladder.
If you can tell me what this is a metaphor for then I will believe the validity of your wisdom
Originally posted by Accordionist
Hi 11118,
thank you for your service. In return, I will offer you the service to give me a service by answering my questions. ;-)
1. Could you give me - if possible - a definition of the term love? Everybody talks about it but nobody defines it in my experience. I also think that the mainstream comprehension of this term is in some ways corrupted. Maybe you could elaborate on that too.
2. Is the harvest a single event in time (there was often mentioned 21 decembre) or is this more a time period where a change takes place from the material world in a more spiritual world? A shift in consciousness so to say...
3. Can a soul be harvested after one lifetime or does the polarity of all lifetimes count together? What I mean: Do I need just one lifetime with more than 50% service to others or do all my lifetimes count together and I need in sum more than 50%? Karma would then be the rest of polarity in former lifes. Or am I totally wrong with this perception of polarity?
Originally posted by Accordionist
Hi 11118,
thank you for your service. In return, I will offer you the service to give me a service by answering my questions. ;-)
4. Do you have any good advise/tipps/techniques how to perform mediation? What is the different between it and silent sitting in a room? For me it is exhausting to sit in a room for a longer time and doing nothing so I never started to do mediation in a serious way. To play on my instrument is very relaxing for me and I get a better connection to my inner self (like meditation should be I think). Is this the reason why music instruments were passed down?
5. Can you talk about the archetypes (what are they exactly)? Where can I learn about this language which is used in dreams? Is there any source which tells me what the meaning behind it is? I know, you have to interpret your dreams in your own perspective but there exists a general meaning of certain images/archetypes in dreams, right?
6. If you have a very bad day, how do you get in this loving and other serving "condition"? I know, the moment contains love but in bad moments, it is very hard to achieve this. I have to face the same challenge like the user Deny777 (top of page 4). I can gather the task intellecually but to adopt it in life makes that probably even harder. I always admire the people which come in a room and make it a little bit more brighter in it. Artists, e. g. musicians, often are in this condition I think. Can you elaborate a little bit more on this?
You already had some very good answers which resonated strong in me. Thanks for that.edit on 22-3-2013 by Accordionist because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 11118
Originally posted by Gumerk
Does our self awareness as we are now end, decrease, or increase after our physical death? If we retain our self awareness are we able to interact with other familiar awareness's? Thnaks
The self-awareness of an individual will not end but in a sense it will decrease and your awareness on a macro-cosmic scale will increase. However, if upon such a thing as instantaneous death the individual doesn't accurately understand they are dead they will contain the same self-awareness of the event(s) before death and repeat the experience(s) until they understand and move on.
You can interact with other familiar awareness's and far more than that. The human incarnation is a very dampened experience by the limits of the physical senses.edit on 15-3-2013 by 11118 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Would you mind looking in to find the reasonsI am withdrawn from my potential