Ask me anything regarding spirituality and I will answer humbly

Originally posted by BDBinc
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

I knew it was a misunderstanding. I thought we were both talking about the One Supreme.

Well there are levels to the extremities or appendages. No misunderstanding here. The One Supreme would never admit in polite society it was the Real Deal as it is VERY SHY and hates attention given to it (as in never try to give it a surprise birthday party). May be some wrath dealt out in retaliation.

Originally posted by BDBinc
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

Who is your creator entity Yaweh? or
Lucifer?

Niether. I do not recognise either. One is a liar the other is a wannabee Godform. Im not sure you are ready for the answer to your question beyond what I have stated (you would not believe it even if the truth stood before you naked; with glossimer wings). My human name deconstructs as: LL,OO,TT,H,S,EE,AAA,RR,N,Y.

May not our seemingly intuitive sense of the existence of God be the result of education and of acquired ideas?

"If such were the case, how should this intuitive sense be possessed by your savages?"

If the intuition of the existence of a Supreme Being were only the result of education, it would not be universal, and would only exist, like all other acquired knowledge, in the minds of those who had received the special education to which it would be due.
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reply to post by vethumanbeing

LL,OO,TT,H,S,EE,AAA,RR,N,Y.
To be pedantic ,you do recognise both of them as you said…
” One is a liar the other is a wannabee Godform.”
And I would believe the truth if it stood before me naked; with glossimer wings in 3D.

Originally posted by BDBinc
reply to post by vethumanbeing

 

LL,OO,TT,H,S,EE,AAA,RR,N,Y.
To be pedantic ,you do recognise both of them as you said…
” One is a liar the other is a wannabee Godform.”
And I would believe the truth if it stood before me naked; with glossimer wings in 3D.

Yes yes this is true, I recognise them/I acknowledge them however I do not fear or loath them; I distrust them (large difference). Fun stuff the glossimer no?

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I just can't go on living in this illusion anymore. I need enlightenment but that feels impossible for me right now.

Originally posted by HarryTZ
I just can't go on living in this illusion anymore. I need enlightenment but that feels impossible for me right now.

Don't worry about enlightenment then. Simply notice that no matter what your circumstance is, you are simply aware. Awareness never changes, even in deep sleep beyond all objects.

This simple noticing moment to moment is a kind of awakening that what is arising is not necessary for our core existence as awareness. That understanding alone in any given moment can be very freeing and the basis on which a greater depth can be felt into and recognized.

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Harry I think you learn’t the pursuit of pleasure(which is quite different from happiness) is futile.
Stop seeking pleasure, pleasure comes and goes, it is transient .
You said the pursuit of pleasure used to be enough, but then you asked myself why it was enough.
The way I see it, the only thing that seeking pleasure brings is the need for more pleasure, and it has brought you pain.
But the good news is that once you stop seeking pleasure and start just BEING moment to moment you are already on the path to know/be yourself. As soon as I stopped chasing pleasure and started to accept experiences without judging them on their “pleasurableness or painfulness” knowing then that my life was a lesson, everything changed .

The time of trying to fulfill others desires for you will pass, I know you want to make your mum happy by doing what she wants and this is seen by you as an obligation as studying and that is not something that brings you pleasure. You are young to have worked out what most people spend their whole lives and never discover, the chasing of pleasure which brings them pain. Please try meditating, and stilling your mind (if you are not already).
Peace and love to you from all of us.

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I can see now that I am addicted to the impermanent comforts in life, and this realization has uncovered inside me a deep and fermented melancholia, one of nostalgia and reminiscence. Even the most recent moments of lightheartedness and joy bring about this feeling, because I've seen through the illusion of temporal pleasures and can no longer enjoy them as I did...

reply to post by HarryTZ

There is no harm at all in dispassion, it is not dispassion when you are suffering when you hanker after past pleasurable experiences and want them back.



You are still desiring and thinking about physical/temporal pleasures, and that very desire for pleasure is causing you pain and suffering and making you miss out on the moments of joy/being.

Your recent moments of lightheartedness and joy bring about a feeling of pain because you are not staying in the moment. In a moment you are anticipating the next, and you anticipate the suffering and there it is.
Your mind is not still and in the NOW.
This is where you need to be, you are real, this breath, this existence bound by time is a gift waiting for you to find it. You have everything you need.

To overcome the egomind's desires for physical pleasure it just takes practice, whatever you practice you get good at. Any habit/addiction can be altered.
Next time you are having a happy moment and feel joy don't think about it, don't anticipate or remember just BE.

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Ok, I'm gonna put you to the test here, I've been after some answers for a long time now and yet now matter how many times I ask or in how ever many different ways I can ask to match people's different understandings on this subject I can never get an answer.
I myself have learnt and taught and a lot of my advice I gave has that much of an impact on people it's sort of scary in a way. So I'm sort of hoping you could be my karma and help me?
If you are as spiritual as you imply then can you help me back to that wonderful place where I could see and hear and feel the souls that have past? I had it for a while but can no longer connect with them and its left me feeling lost. I have been told to contact my spirit guid but I have never done that before I never excised to have any sort of ability, I was born that way so envoking is strange to me.
If you could help or answer any more of my questions it would be greatly aprieciated.

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It's just that, I feel like the lightheartedness and joy came about for the wrong reasons.
The memory I was speaking of was from just the other day, when I was attending a friend's party at a little cafe/pub downtown. A couple of friends of mine bought some pot from someone I don't know, and the three of us sneaked out and found a place to smoke down the street. We ended up leaving the party another two times to go smoke, until we finished off the last of it. We were all really high and just having a great time listening to the musicians playing in the little concert room. Not once that night did I think about the ego crisis I'm currently going through. I was fully present in each moment with no worrying thoughts about the past or future.
I want marijuana to be 'useful' in developing spirituality. I want to be able to enjoy smoking with my friends. I want an excuse to continue using it.

Originally posted by BDBinc
Shadow herder raised some questions.
Gods evolution is to my (impure mind& intellect) the idea of the change of the changeless . Perfection should not try to change.
Completeness is lonely, being all, is lonely? The supreme was lonely without being individualized?
He can’t loves us just because we ended his loneliness, as isn’t that a conditioned/ selfish love?
*Then if he experienced the sense of loneliness why would he make us feel the same sense for him( in time) , and let this be a driver to find ourselves?
...
You said “Based on my experiences drawn from this session, life exists because God wanted to create life. God’s motivation was to end his own loneliness.”
Could your experience at the time have been slightly altered by your individual's concepts? If not it is my concepts about God that need to go( as well as my ego).

The words that you are quoting are quoted from a different author. I was simply giving an example of a personified view which is somewhat congruent to my perspective.

Imagine the probability in a generator which has potential to produce all possibilities (infinity) - imagine there being no future or past but a single present.

All probabilities, then, are manifest in, not a linear manner, but in a cyclical, circular, or unified pattern with no beginning or end but merely the being-ness of the pattern itself. Thus, in the "beginning" the possibility of awareness is manifest - it wasn't just randomly decided or appeared from nothing but is a byproduct of infinity which is the plenum for all potentials to manifest.

The awareness from infinity leads to the focus of infinity into a point of consciousness or intelligent energy. This is known as the Word or Love. It is the focus of an infinite arrow and the activity from which all things arise from. This is the One Original Thought and all things are distortions and results of this. The point of awareness, becoming more and more aware as it is its very essence, "realizes" to become more aware of itself it must do so in a process which can observe itself in an infinite variety of perspectives (all perspectives).

This is where creation is born from. The "next step" is then freedom of will which arises the process of many different foci all merely extensions of the One Creator or first focus (Word). This is what the theory of the big bang describes in a scientific sense. The only part really missing from the theory is the intelligence and cyclical pattern which it is founded upon.


All experiences... All focuses... All things both big and small, bad or good, seemingly significant or insignificant, all these things that you define with attributes every day, all these things are love itself and loved unconditionally. For each experience is a beautiful gift and each piece of the picture is just as important and significant for without it the picture would not be complete.

The Creator loves you unconditionally because the Creator is love itself and you are love itself. You cannot do or be anything other than love.

Think about your motives for the current moment. See the focus from you (a focus) towards another focus. This activity of focus reaching towards focus is Love itself in the most basic state. Love emanates from the oneness and unity. It is the unity.

Originally posted by HarryTZ
I actually have a question for the OP... I've been having really depressing thoughts about our lives being pointless. I get that we're supposed to be happy, but why is that good enough? It just feels like a means to and end even though there is no end.

It is hard at first to cultivate a genuine love and appreciation for life - especially in your current state. When you consciously find within the present moment the love in each situation you begin to build upon the seeing of that love. The first conscious choice to find this love is the foundation and the second empowers the first, the third empowers the two before it, etc...

It takes practice and will to begin to acquire this perspective and like a snow ball effect, the more you attempt to see the more clearer and easier it becomes.

Originally posted by bb23108

Originally posted by HarryTZ
I just can't go on living in this illusion anymore. I need enlightenment but that feels impossible for me right now.

Don't worry about enlightenment then. Simply notice that no matter what your circumstance is, you are simply aware. Awareness never changes, even in deep sleep beyond all objects.

This simple noticing moment to moment is a kind of awakening that what is arising is not necessary for our core existence as awareness. That understanding alone in any given moment can be very freeing and the basis on which a greater depth can be felt into and recognized.

That awareness would be living precisely in 'the moment' not a second before or beyond. This is tricky and it seems the Eastern has conquered the timing with meditation techniques, not so the Westerners. Your explaination is good, and for some reason during the vivid dreamtime it is nowhere more apparent for me. Awareness=recognision of (something immediate/instantaneous) a happening so LARGE that can change everything you thought you knew to be true. It is sort of a giving it up to the Universe, or God or whatever is your definition (or causal) describing the event, it could be something so small, the fact you were aware of it (as a direct participant) is a beautiful miracle occuring to potencially grow your soul/spirit.

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If you were in joy and started thinking “this is the wrong reason to feel joy” you were not just being you were thinking.
This is your life, and with free will you can do what you want and you do not need to think up excuses.
Who would you need them for your self, your real self, only knows the truth- it doesn't get fooled by the ego mind.
I wish I could help, aside from the solid help meditation and listening to your heart brings, maybe another member can advise on “smoking for spirituality” . I have no experience in that area, maybe if you start a cunningly worded thread here on ATS you can get the answers.

There are not wrong reasons for joy, for your real nature is joy.
Listen to what your heart is telling you (not your egomind) .Your conflict/crisis is from your egomind vs your heart. One desires the pleasure and the other wants to be free of the desire for pleasure.

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by bb23108

Originally posted by HarryTZ
I just can't go on living in this illusion anymore. I need enlightenment but that feels impossible for me right now.

Don't worry about enlightenment then. Simply notice that no matter what your circumstance is, you are simply aware. Awareness never changes, even in deep sleep beyond all objects.

This simple noticing moment to moment is a kind of awakening that what is arising is not necessary for our core existence as awareness. That understanding alone in any given moment can be very freeing and the basis on which a greater depth can be felt into and recognized.

That awareness would be living precisely in 'the moment' not a second before or beyond. This is tricky and it seems the Eastern has conquered the timing with meditation techniques, not so the Westerners. Your explaination is good, and for some reason during the vivid dreamtime it is nowhere more apparent for me. Awareness=recognision of (something immediate/instantaneous) a happening so LARGE that can change everything you thought you knew to be true. It is sort of a giving it up to the Universe, or God or whatever is your definition (or causal) describing the event, it could be something so small, the fact you were aware of it (as a direct participant) is a beautiful miracle occuring to potencially grow your soul/spirit.

edit on 31-3-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)

It is only the thoughts that give rise to the 'belief' that you cannot be constantly present. Those thoughts arise presently and are known to be arising.
Awareness is ever 'present'. You are awareness. Awareness is - it is the seeing/knowing aspect.
Even in deep sleep there is awareness - but there are no 'things' appearing. In deep sleep 'you' (as a character) do not appear but awareness (your true nature) still is.
On waking there appears light and along with it apparent 'things'. This is when consciousness (wakefulness) happens.
Awareness is aware of the light of consciousness - presently - always presently.

How can you be 'aware' of 5 minutes ago? You might have 'thoughts' about 5 minutes ago (that you are aware of now) but you cannot hear or see 5 minutes ago.
Seeing and hearing happen presently. Everything happens presently.
This is presence.

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Tell me the meaning of this parable, i say this to test you and if you answer correctly I will then put my actual question to you:

There were two roofers, they both had ladders to get to the roof, but one of them carried his ladder with him even when he was at the top fixing the roof, the other left his ladder and went about his job on the roof much more easily because he didn't have to accomodate for the ladder.

If you can tell me what this is a metaphor for then I will believe the validity of your wisdom

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I have always believed in reincarnation but I'm interested in the possibility that we keep repeating the same life. There was a thread a couple of years ago about this and someone named it the K-Pax theory. I laughed because that's where I heard it first. Since then I've run across time-wave-zero and string theories speaking to it.

While I hate to think we get stuck in a repeating loop instead of moving on, it makes sense on a lot of levels. It would explain ESP/precognition where people know what's going to happen -because they're actually remembering the events. It would also explain deja-vu.

I'd like to hear more thoughts on the subject.

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