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Rand Paul Filibustering Over Drones: I Will Not Let Obama ‘Shred the Constitution’

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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Bacardi
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And the GMO thing?

Why does Rand Paul think that Americans shouldn't know they're eating GMO?


Why would you think I agreed with everything Rand Paul does when we are talking about a filibuster and not GMO?I answered your original question, when you see how nonsensical your comparison is, now youre bringing up Rand and his idiotic stance on GMO?? The reality is that a person can disagree with things a person does but doesnt have to hate the person. Rand did good with this and was in a position to do this where Jones didnt and doesnt. Bring up whatever you want to disparage Paul, Im not a huge fan of his. What he did here is no comparison to jones and his show.. and I replied to that. If youre looking for "bad guys" maybe look a little further than jones vs paul. If you just want to argue, choose someone else to bicker with.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:16 AM
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If you have not done so, I would ask all that appreciated what Rand did for us to go to his .gov website and send him a thank you email showing your support for what he did.

Rand Paul's Senate webpage

We need to show our support and gratitude when these rare kind of things happens and maybe they won't be so rare anymore.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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I was simply asking if you could think of a logical reason as to why Paul would think the American people shouldn't know what they're eating. The guy sat there for 13 hours. Cool. That's literally the only thing the man has done in his career that is note worthy. That's the only point I was trying to make. Jones on the other hand sits there 6 days a week. Did he have bad moments on air? Yes. Y2k is a great example of that. But you sit there for 6 days a week for 20 sum years and tell me you don't make mistakes.

I'm not defending Jones. He is a radio show host. I will criticize a US senator though when he makes an illogical stance. 13 hours does not wipe away a record of horrible voting and a stance that makes no logical sense... Paul blood or not, this is not a hereditary dictatorship... and Rand Paul is NOT Ron Paul. He is a sell out. 13 hour work day or not.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:24 AM
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As thought.....morning news is nearly absent of his stance and his question; along with the little kid response from the White House. Instead we hear about the poor girl who was mauled by a lion (shocker I know), Republicans wining and dining with the President (and of course, how he picked up the bill) and that is about it.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:25 AM
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This is a bid for 2016 which he will never get the GOP nod for anyway because of the work his father put in. He can sell out and cater to the GOP all he wants, the man will never be allowed to set foot in the white house. If you honestly believe this is something more than a political stunt, I take you back to the 50s when someone who honestly believed in what he stood for (right or wrong) sat on the floor for over 24 hours. Civil rights? 24 hours. The Government killing Americans with drones? Only worth 13.
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posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:26 AM
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This is state run media (much like soviet russia). Try Fox News (if they haven't been paid off today).



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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Stop derailing. This is not a thread about GMO foods and Alex "over the top" Jones. This is about a Ky Senator that asked a public question...Does the executive branch think it has the authority to use deadly force against American citizens on American soil without a trial?

Regardless what Rand may have done in the past, this is a very important question and we deserve to know the Executive office's thoughts on this issue.

I was not happy when Rand endorsed Romney either...but I am not a Senator and I have a feeling it was done with thoughts of the future in mind.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Bacardi
reply to post by texasgirl
 


This is a bid for 2016 which he will never get the GOP nod for anyway because of the work his father put in. He can sell out and cater to the GOP all he wants, the man will never be allowed to set foot in the white house. If you honestly believe this is something more than a political stunt, I take you back to the 50s when someone who honestly believed in what he stood for (right or wrong) sat on the floor for over 24 hours. Civil rights? 24 hours. The Government killing Americans with drones? Only worth 13.
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Yes, I know Strom Thurmond stood for 24 hours. Paul Rand stood for 13. What difference does that make, it's not a contest.

You didn't answer whether you agreed whether drone attacks on unarmed Americans was unconstitutional or not.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Bacardi
reply to post by Advantage
 


I was simply asking if you could think of a logical reason as to why Paul would think the American people shouldn't know what they're eating. The guy sat there for 13 hours. Cool. That's literally the only thing the man has done in his career that is note worthy. That's the only point I was trying to make. Jones on the other hand sits there 6 days a week. Did he have bad moments on air? Yes. Y2k is a great example of that. But you sit there for 6 days a week for 20 sum years and tell me you don't make mistakes.

I'm not defending Jones. He is a radio show host. I will criticize a US senator though when he makes an illogical stance. 13 hours does not wipe away a record of horrible voting and a stance that makes no logical sense... Paul blood or not, this is not a hereditary dictatorship... and Rand Paul is NOT Ron Paul. He is a sell out. 13 hour work day or not.
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May I suggest you go start your very own Alex Jones thread. Instead of trying to stuff him into this one, which is about a serious question, still not answered, by a U.S. Senator addressing the issues of due process and our American Constitution.

Des



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:54 AM
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One of my housemates heard a reference to "drones" and killing Americans and Obama on mainstream radio or TV and asked me about it this morning. That is a watershed moment, I think.

Where I live, I am the complete eccentric, having an interest in this stuff. My housemates have never even heard of this issue. For one of them to come out with a mention of the issue, that she got from the MSM is . . . new and different.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Bacardi
Let us not forget Rand Paul voted NO on GMO labeling and gave his FULL support to Romney.

Anyone can sit there and talk about how screwed up this country is for 13 hours, unlike his dad, his voting record proves he's a sell out.
Really, really??!!! You get a hell fire dropped on you & you won't be to worried about what you put in your mouth.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 09:17 AM
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Yes, that is realy space-tech, beautifull...

Than, one can start thinking, what if they use against me

They have it, not me. How can I defend it?
Naked hands against drones? But, the other solution can be to become slave or to be nonmercyfully killed?
Think about it... Because YOU asked for it



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 09:41 AM
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Rand Paul Filibustering Over Drones: I Will Not Let Obama ‘Shred the Constitution’

What is he going to do about it?



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by fireyaguns
Rand Paul Filibustering Over Drones: I Will Not Let Obama ‘Shred the Constitution’

What is he going to do about it?



He drew attention to this problem and is making more Americans aware the president has too much power. I think that's pretty good.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:00 AM
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Regardless of whether someone supports Rand Paul's previous political strategem, the man took 13 hours out of his day, away from his family, on my behalf, to represent my voice & make it heard.
Not only me, but also my children, my husband, my sister, brother & mother.
Not only them, but all sisters & brothers, mothers & children, all families & all free men everywhere.

For 13 hours, Rand Paul truly represented the collective voice of liberty and the right to justice and freedom-- which demands accountability from those whom would try to deny it.
Rand Paul represented the collective voice of prudence, which demands that the corruptible must put on incorruption for tyranny to be swallowed up in victory.
Rand Paul represented the longing of that collective voice to cry out, "O tyranny, where is your victory? Where is your sting?"
Truly the sting and power of tyranny is in the perversion of the law.

Woe America, for it is only as long as we have men of heart and courage to fight against tyranny, that freedom will continue to ring.
It is only as long as men of heart and courage stand up and do something today, that will help someone tomorrow.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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To those of you interested in hearing what Rand Paul did yesterday (in Rand Paul's own words!) there is an interview with him on Fox with Megyn Kelly at 2:05pm (1:05 central time). This filibuster is getting alot of air time!



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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Plan B
call yer state Governor - blow back.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships

“No American should ever be killed in their house without warrant and some kind of aggressive behavior by them,” Paul said on the Senate floor.



The above is an offsite content quote.....in a post by "burntheships"

Ummm....I find this statement very troubling, perhaps it's just the wording but I really don't think so...The part that states "some kind of aggressive behavior by them"..........What Senator Paul is making clear is that he is against the use of drones unless there is "some kind of agressive behavior by them"...Now I can imagine a scenario where the Federal Government under the aegis of the Department of Homeland Security would

1. Purchase billions of rounds of ammunition.
2. Purchase thousands of tank-like armored vehicles
3. Place multiple lists of who MIGHT be a terrorist, to include Vets, Patriots, Constitutionalists, etc. in the public domain
4. Commission the building of "detention centers" and staff for "political dissidents", etc.
5. Desensetize the population by holding fusion center training and utilyzing Armed Forces to "police" ostensibly for "training purposes", i.e., martial law scenarios.
6. Encroach upon the 2nd ammendment.

All of these steps would be to prepare for the possible/probable collapse of the economy and when this occured then it would be used to find and eliminate the above listed "domestic terrorists" (see point #3)

Cause and effect....create domestic terrorists out of law abiding citizens and claim national security status against them as they defend themselves from tyrrany............These are the aggressive behaviorists mentioned by Senator Paul......

In my honest opinion....He should have never included that caveat and I can't for the life of me imagine that, that wording was a mistake...............

YouSir

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edit on 7-3-2013 by YouSir because: Because I really neededto include my post wit da quote...



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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I don't know about the folk here saying that the mainstream media is avoiding the Rand Paul subject. Last time I turned on the news is was all they would talk about. They brought in guests to discuss it, they applauded Rand Paul for doing what wasn't necessary under current filibuster rules, and they went over the various things he talked about.

I am glad that the drone issue is being discussed, though I do think that people need to get it through their heads that there are different types of drones. Some have camera-esque equipment, and some have weapons. The media likes to blow up stories about RC planes with cameras as drones. I don't like the idea of these being used to spy on people either, but it's good to get the distinction in there.



posted on Mar, 7 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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yeah you guys are doing swimmingly thus far. Its working.

Let me do as I do. You do you, we will see who is more effective.......

and also,


I dont appreciate the judgements. The hell makes what you THINK you are doing (by having an opinion) any better?

Do you wear a wrist band for you cause? what color is it? Oh.....how involved you are.....

I know what I have to do, and I will probably have more of an impact then you.....No I wont say what, since that would be dumb.....BUT I can tell you that you will never see me in a protest or a rally under any ones banner.

You will never see me support BS one day, and sell myself to the next in a desperate pledge of loyalty to one group AGAINST another. As you guys have just demonstrated.

You are not a force of union and cohesion. You are not bringing anyone together, just getting people on you SIDE or not.

Fail on you.


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