Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

Originally posted by w3thepatient
Thoughts on the "new world order"...
I fear that i'm being manipulated too BUT if humans of earth are to make the shift to becoming a true space faring race then do we not need a united world government?

As an evolved race of man, all working towards the purpose of spiritual growth, I think we'd probably be able to self govern, as everyone would live in accordance with the same common sense morals.

Originally posted by w3thepatient
reply to post by joeyv23

 

Give THIS PAPER a read. It will explain it better than I can.

Thanks for putting up that link. fascinating so far. its on the "to be read" pile.
i wondered if you have come across Wes Penre's work?

The Working Model is telling us that the Unum is a natural, living system in itself and contains what we call the known 4 Dimensional Universe (length, width, height, depth and time), but is so much more than that. When a neurosensor is out of his/her body, exploring, they can expand beyond the physical universe and experience what is there without interfering with what is going on. Beyond the physical realms are six other domains, which can be classified as the realms of "ultimate causation", consisting of vacuum and plenum[11], quantum and sub-quantum[12][13]. In the Working Model these 7 domains are all together called the 7 Superdomains, not to be confused with the 7 superuniverses in texts such as the Urantia Papers[14]. The dominating characteristics of the Superdomains is form giving, and thus the term idiomaterial Universe was born. And us being mind/body, we are idiomaterial ourselves; thought creates matter, and there is no way to tell matter and thought apart. Idiomaterial Life Physics not only has as its goal to describe the fundamentals of life through science, but is also a guide for any body/mind/spirits encoded to do so; to explore the purpose of the Multiverse, experience its endless potentials and come to the realization that we all are connected. This goes for all body/mind/spirit complexes, who are capable of accessing information containing such thought form. This thought form, we as biokind (biological entities) and biomind (biological entities, including mind/spirit) are accessed through something which in Life Physics is called the "T-Boundary", short for Thought-Boundary. This is a superdomain of its own, providing us with the purpose to accomplish the above. I should add that not all life forms in the Unum is physical in nature; there are those who don't have bodies, or can create them as they go along, by accessing different dimensions, and these entities are of course also a part of the above encoding.

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I'll definitely look into this. The use of 7s fits with the model of the multiverse I have in my head. One way I see our multiverse as having a torus shape,
Another way I see it, it's like an amphitheater with a central stage as being source.
This is the map created from the descriptions of hell from Dante's Divine Comedy. I think he may have gotten the idea from the super consciousness. The cone shape also fits into the torus, with the stage/center of the amphitheater correlating to the nexus of the torus. The analogy that I like is that of two trumpeteers standing back to back in the center of the stage. With no particular tune in mind one trumpeteer raises his trumpet and plays a note. The waves of sound leave the trumpets and move up the levels of the amphitheater, at each level the sound would differ as the distance from the source of the noise increases. The sound makes its way all the way to the top of the amphitheater and echos back down the levels to the center stage where it hits the trumpeteers ears. The 2nd trumpeteer picks his trumpet up and plays a different note. We'll say the first note was a C and the second was a G. The trumpeteers would then play a different note, closer to the others note, so that the 3rd note would be a D, the 4th an F, the 5th an E. At this point they meet and play the same note, producing perfect harmony. I believe us to be higher up away from source, in the level 3rd from the top. The sound coming from Source is distorted, but we're on the echo wave back down towards the stage. Hopefully, maybe this will make sense to someone. If not... well it works for me .

reply to post by joeyv23


Thanks for the link - I'll read it. I really need to figure out what is causing some folks to believe the density of an entire planet is going to "shift". Seems like a mighty big project to me. That, however, is truly insignificant in comparison to the notion that the sun will shift from G class to F class (that's the way it would have to go - it's already a G2, and has been since it's inception 4 and a half billion years ago). Moving to F class will require a significant increase of mass, and will concurrently drastically curtail it's remaining lifetime while at the same time greatly increasing it's radiation output (more mass causes it to output a great deal more energy, which in turn causes it to "burn out" a lot faster), so that would be a Really Big Deal. It'll kill us all.

F class stars live about half as long as G class stars, and since we are already half way through the Sun's lifetime, converting it to an F class could be a Very Bad Thing, accelerating The End.

Your notion that the definition of density is "limited to 3d" is absolutely on the right track. That's sort of how density is defined - it's mass per volume, and volume is calculated using 3 dimensions. I'm not certain that it wouldn't be more correct The other way around, but no matter - the two concepts are inextricably tied to one another. Without (or beyond) those 3 dimensions, density is meaningless.

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Very welcome! All of the papers on the main site are worth reading. A bit time consuming, but well worth it.

Stellar Evolution is Backwards!
In Reciprocal System (RS) physics, Larson comes up with a better structure for the atom, based on the concept of scalar motion, and as a natural consequence of that structure determines two “destructive limits” for atoms: a thermal limit and an age limit. The thermal limit is the common limit used in thermo-nuclear reactions, but the age limit is unknown to conventional science and concerns the capture of charged, electron neutrinos by the atom that create isotopic mass. When the age limit is reached, an element becomes radioactive and explodes. When Larson applied those concepts to astronomy, he found a different mechanism for stellar combustion based on those limits. Combustion is based on exploding atoms-fission, not fusion-and that led to the conclusion that astronomers have the stellar (and galactic) evolutionary sequences backwards!
In Universe of Motion, Larson shows the consequences of what happens when you flip stellar
evolution around, making red giants the youngest stars, and the blue giants the oldest. Backwards evolution made for a perfectly logical and consistent pattern of evolution eliminating the need for a bunch of devices that conventional astronomy introduced to try to make sense of their interpretation; things like dark matter, dark energy, black holes, quark stars, neutron stars… when you put the sequence right, they all become just distinct stages in a single, consistent, stellar evolutionary process.As a consequence to setting the stellar evolutionary sequence straight, some conclusions are different than popular belief:
• Stars start out as large dust clouds, condense into red supergiants, orange giants, yellow then
white main sequence stars, then on up to blue giants, then supernova. The same process as
heating up a piece of metal, from the initial red glow to where it gets blue-hot and breaks.
• Since stars are built from dust and debris as fuel, the more fuel available, the hotter the sun will
get.
• As David Wilcock has identified in the past, planetary moons are leaving “trails” throughout the
solar system, indicating we've entered a dusty area of space. With all this dust and debris
available for stellar fuel, the sun is growing in size and getting hotter, moving from a class-G
(yellow) star to a class-F (yellow-white) star.
• Because our system of long-term dating is based on an assumption of radioactive elements
being formed when the Earth was born-not being produced regularly-our system of geologic
eras is drastically wrong. Astronomical events move thousands of times faster than assumed by
astronomers. The planet and solar system are no where near as old as claimed and mankind has been around to see the sun “change” in the past. When you consider these consequences from a corrected stellar evolution, one conclusion is obvious: global warming is not due to flatulent cows, but to the fact the sun is getting hotter, and will continue to get hotter. Sun Heats in Quantum Steps, not a Smooth Transition In the Reciprocal System, everything is quantized into discrete units. So is the case with the destructive limits… stars do not heat smoothly, but tend to stay at a specific temperature, then suddenly jump to a new temperature range as the magnetic ionization level increases (which controls the age limit). That is why we have a distinct color-temperature class system for identifying stars. The discrete jumps become very visible when you look at an H-R diagram with the correct evolutionary sequence, as stars move from red supergiants, to orange giants, to main sequence distinct bars on the graph with few stars between them. The earlier stages of heating up takes bigger jumps than the later ones, so that is obvious here. Astronomers consider the giants to be separate from dwarfs because they do not realize the stars heat and condense in quantum steps they assume a continuous change, so they miss the connection.

This is where I draw my conclusion from. I don't mean to regurgitate it because I want it to be true, I have thought about it for a long time and it sits well with me on an intuitive level.

reply to post by joeyv23

This is the map created from the descriptions of hell from Dante's Divine Comedy. I think he may have gotten the idea from the super consciousness. The cone shape also fits into the torus, with the stage/center of the amphitheater correlating to the nexus of the torus. The analogy that I like is that of two trumpeteers standing back to back in the center of the stage. With no particular tune in mind one trumpeteer raises his trumpet and plays a note. The waves of sound leave the trumpets and move up the levels of the amphitheater, at each level the sound would differ as the distance from the source of the noise increases. The sound makes its way all the way to the top of the amphitheater and echos back down the levels to the center stage where it hits the trumpeteers ears. The 2nd trumpeteer picks his trumpet up and plays a different note. We'll say the first note was a C and the second was a G. The trumpeteers would then play a different note, closer to the others note, so that the 3rd note would be a D, the 4th an F, the 5th an E. At this point they meet and play the same note, producing perfect harmony. I believe us to be higher up away from source, in the level 3rd from the top. The sound coming from Source is distorted, but we're on the echo wave back down towards the stage. Hopefully, maybe this will make sense to someone. If not... well it works for me .

Great summary. Really struck a chord/accord. you have a talent there.

On prophesy.
i picked up the following quote and wholly agree with it..;

Well, they need to tell us, or the 'prophecy' will potentially not play out. Humans are unpredictable, because we change our thoughts and directions every second of the day, and the more people we are, the more directions we are able to take, logically speaking. But if a belief system is created around a certain prophecy, there is a big chance people stay on, or close to, the course...

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Okay, let' try this, again:

Hey, BornOfSin - a few things....

First of all - great job with the thread and explanations.

Next...

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by alienDNA

 

The big problem with me being 'Schizophrenic' alienDNA; is that my first encounter with these lights happened with my girlfriend present.

Also that I have taken many people down there, all of which have had experience with seeing these lights. Many of which actually communicated with them too.

So I guess every one of us would be crazy having the exact same shared illusions?

Let's put the debate to rest. Where are you, located? I want to experience this, first hand. And, I have the desire, time and money to make it happen.

And, also... a suggestion - when replying, please use the quote function...

...so we know who you are addressing... as many of your responses are to posters, many posts/pages back, often

Thanks.

And, thanks for not leaving the thread, even though you said you were going to:

Originally posted by BornOfSin
This is the last reply I am going to make to this thread.

The level of ignorance amongst you makes me honestly sad we are of the same species.

The divergence in opinion and speculation on the truth; exemplifies the need for a shift in our consciousness as a species and EXACTLY WHY RELIGION MUST BE ENDED! Full stop. No arguments can ever support the contrary. We need to evolve as a species.

There is no 'agenda' other than to open your eyes.

They do not want to enslave you.
They do not want to kill you.
They do not want you to worship them on Sundays.
They do not want you to donate all your money.
They do not want you to kill in their name.
They do not want you to hate those who don't see the truth of all things.
They do not want to 'save' you.
They do not want me to save you.

You are being offered some information as I said to you before. Digest it or spit it out. They do not care, I do not care.

If they wanted to wipe you out, they could do it with a simple virus and not have it effect any other life on this planet.

Wake up from your dream people.

Love and light to you all.

I wish you all only the best.

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See what I did, there?

Just saw this recent article about the Annunaki if anyone's interested HERE ya go!!

reply to post by BDBinc


You are an idiot of epic proportions. "I feel like an Al Queda spokesman?"

It was another of the (growing list) of predictions I got right.

Please kindly just accept the fact that you are not ready for the 3rd grade and return to kindergarten as you are interfering with those with the ability to comprehend and learn within this forum.

Thanks.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


I read your post and I have been considering it. I am still not sure as to how (if at all) I go about it if I do accept this. Above all the multitude of other considerations in doing this; it would remove my anonymity.

I need to ask advice on it, although I have had other things I've need to discuss over the last few days. I'll tell ya when I do.

reply to post by Murgatroid


I watched the whole video you posted. They seemed quite amused with the 'name of God having the power to scare them'.

They stated that a knowledge of the true divinity means; that we are the only ones who still believe in fairy tales. And that they are seriously misinterpreting any 'surprise' expressed regarding the use of his name, as it is due to them not comprehending how 'faith' could take precedence over physical evidence which disproves their religion.

Religious belief of any kind detracts from our attachment to the true nature of all things. It is not only unnecessary within an alignment of our consciousness, but counter-productive to the process.

So they put religion in place to control us, but when the Archon return people are supposed to just go along with the new story, as if people never believed in the religion that was provided to them by the Archon in the first place???!!!??

"Counter-productive to the process" -- yet they produce/invent it for human consumption just to come back and blow our minds??

I must need universal consciousness to understand. So hopefully I'm still around when this takes place. Otherwise I'm beating some Archon ass when I see one.

If they wanted to create us just to watch us kill each other and then only come back aeons later to finally deliver us from our moronic ways and provide us with "superconsciousness", they should've stopped after they created monkeys and saved us from ever being created. It would've saved us a lot of meaningless time. Which leads me to a question -- what was our initial purpose? Why did they create us in the first place?

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by SquirrelNutz

 

I read your post and I have been considering it. I am still not sure as to how (if at all) I go about it if I do accept this. Above all the multitude of other considerations in doing this; it would remove my anonymity.

I need to ask advice on it, although I have had other things I've need to discuss over the last few days. I'll tell ya when I do.

understood.

reply to post by six67seven


Religion was implemented for us to control 'ourselves' in their absence. Not for them them to control us. But it also to instill morality, civility, etc amongst our species and the other reasons I gave you.

Most importantly of all it gave us 'divine concept', without which we would have revered sense with which to found our final stage of development upon. I did explain all of this.

It is counter productive to the final stage of the process, NOT the stage we are passing. It served it's purpose in the spiritual development of the species. Now it's time to go to the next stage. It's like schooling. Primary school, High School, then the real world. I did also explain this in the 3 phase process.

They did not create us in the sense of putting life on this planet. Life existed in most shapes when they initially arrived. Our 'creation' was a genetic manipulation of our species from it's natural form as the found us.

This was done to give us a level of intelligence by which we could communicate. (see Phase 1 evolution).

So what is happening now, I'm sure in other time zones it's already March 14?

Finally managed to get a few photos of one of my stalkers without him flying off before I could take them.

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reply to post by BornOfSin


You can insult and make failed predictions all you like but you have not answered any of my questions, and to detract from the inconsistencies in your post you place unrelated links.
How have any of my questions interfered with you telling everyone that the Annuki’s originally seeded religion to (and you did originally say )’control us’( now you say it was seeded to develop spirituality(oh boy! that’s different from your first saying it was to control the species) . And now you say the Annuki don’t want religious faith, yet we are without the divine concept in the minds of all mankind(and what about modern “science” as that seems to be the leading religion of the western world)?
Now many people have no concept of divine( or spirit) but you say we outgrew the need (even without the divine concept). You said religion was for control you can’t change your story now.

You claimed religious faith historically stopped mankind from a "mass ascention" and that no one with religious faith can be righteous. Yet you did not answer the question on how the divine concept prevents one from doing what is right.
Love, light and peace.

So is this Pope Peter of Rome? or what? What connects him to that name?

Listening to Tom Horn, and Steve Quayle on youtube now after watching the new Pope Francis come into play. This is all so fascinating!. I cant say anything more until I do some more of my own research. I have kept this thread as an open tab for 10 days, waiting.....

I have to say, this thread is amazing!!!! Great reading!

This thread is most fascinating, however, I would be cautious while interacting with any alien entity, but I am sure you keep a certain distance to all of this and simply relay their message, correct?

If you don't mind; could you describe how these entities explain the creation of the Universe? And do they consider the "superconscience" to be conscious, a supreme conscience, or simply a universal ethernet connection to which we all are connected?

And, it struck me, now as you posted the pictures of the owl that; isn't it commonly known that the members of the secret occult society of Skull & Bones perform sadistic rituals in front of and while worshipping an owl?

reply to post by BDBinc


You enjoying talking to yourself? Once again. I didn't read anything you just wrote, and wont be. So I don't know why you are bothering.