Another one! Beyonce' admits to being demon possessed.

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr


Have you heard of implanted Alter Personalities?

It's apparently something that the Illuminati do quite frequently to their "Agents" and "Puppets"

Its supposed to be a form of Trauma induced multiple personality disorder..... where some extreme pain/trauma/etcetera causes the mind to defend itself by recoiling into itself, forcing anouther personality to manifest and act as guardian...

And then this "Alter" personality is programmed, and allowed to sink below the surface until it is needed again.

Interesting stuff, and I think this may be more in line with what you are discussing.....

Here are some links for your perusal:

www.truthseekersvideo.com...

planet.infowars.com...

washyourbrain.org...


Just search for: "Monarch Mind control" "Trauma based mind control" "Alter personality" and combinations of such....

reply to post by Enzo954


That's called an adrenaline rush, which will boost your confidence among other things. The same thing will happen if you are being chased by a bear, it's instinctive to situations when you are under stressful or life threatening circumstances. Whether it be, a firefighter rushing into a burning home or a MMA fighter about to fight, it's a normal thing to experience.

Now, if firefighters were saying that they were possessed by demons when they are rescuing people, that would be a different story.

reply to post by ArchaicDesigns


Exactly. I've performed on stage before. I've been a rapper since I was 15 years old and from age 20 to 25 I did a lot of performing. Also from about age 21 to the current time I've constantly been on stage performing spoken word poetry (in fact I traded rap for the poetry scene). I know all about the rush before and after going on stage. Not once has it ever felt like a presence entering my body. There's a big difference between the two.

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr


You know, they say that the Paparazzi can be somewhat... "traumatic"


HINT, HINT

I found a link with some more information about mind control and MK Ultra.
This blog talks about Gaga, Spears, Nikki and Beyonce how they have these alter egos, that are linked to mind control. It has some videos and pics.
Mind Control in the Music Indusrty


An excerpt

“What I feel onstage,” says Beyonce, “I don’t feel anywhere else. It’s an out-of-body experience. I created my stage persona … so that when I go home, I don’t have to think about what it is I do. Sasha isn’t me. The people around me know who I really am.” It seems odd for the singer to describe wanting to “forget what it is she does,” like she is some kind of sex worker. Not to mention the feeling of being outside her body while channeling a personality, which she has described in interviews as “someone I wouldn’t want to meet on the street,” sounds notably dissociative.

Quotes from others

“This alter ego takes over when I am on stage. She is really wild and daring and a much more impulsive performer than I am. Her name is Britannia. When I am her I feel I can take on the world, normally I am pretty shy.” ~ Britney Spears

“Slim Shady is just the evil thoughts that come into my head, things I shouldn’t be thinking about.” ~ Eminem

“I had to separate the two because Mary is nice, you know, intelligent. Brook-Lynn is crazy and ignorant and she don’t care.” ~ Mary J. Blithe

“I have someone else that takes over when it’s time for me to work and when I’m on stage, this alter ego that I’ve created that kind of protects me and who I really am. When I’m onstage I’m aggressive and strong and not afraid of my sexuality. The tone of my voice gets different, and I’m fearless. I’m just a different person.” ~ Beyonce

The article dodges the demonic topic, but provides an opinion on it.

I won’t get into the whole demonic possession thread, but hey, it’s understandable why some folks would go there. Beyonce went from the girl next door to a vixen sporting satanic goat skull imagery overnight. Now Beyonce has told presss: ”Sasha is done. I killed her.” These sound more like the words of a troubled teen than a world-renowned performer in her thirties. And troubled teens everywhere are hanging on her every word.

I personally think the people who create and think of this kind of control are possessed by a demonic twisted spirit.

reply to post by Enzo954

I almost become a different person. Does this mean a demon is possessing me or I'm going to change my last name to Fierce? Of course not!!!! It's something inside of me that comes out when needed to get the job done. Everybody has that second persona in them to a degree. Enough with the demon nonsense.

I would say you over came your fears. That's quite different from what Beyonce has admitted is going on with her and what is plain to see if you read the whole thread. Are you demon possessed ? Just asking.

Now, we should evolve this thread into determining whether sensing a separate consciousness within one's body is a common experience or an exclusively paranormal one restricted to certain people.
I'm serious about that. Someone should make a thread in Paranormal Studies about the phenomenon of disembodied consciousnesses and the people who most regularly report it, as well as how good or evil those presences seem to be.
That said, could it also be possible that people who complain of such an experience merely think it's a second consciousness? I mean, how reliable are our brains when it comes to that, anyway? It's already been said that 'thinking someone is standing behind you' is a common and minor hallucination.

reply to post by Observationalist


It definitely could be mind control. If it is, though, then they are still manipulating these people to use this symbolism and everything else, to promote their agenda to the masses.

reply to post by ArchaicDesigns


What happens to me is NOT an adrenaline rush. An adrenaline rush is lifting up a piano that fell on your sister not changing your persona. No offense, I just don't agree.

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

Now all of that aside, this is a complex subject for another thread. For one thing Jesus went into Hades/Sheol and gave the dead there a chance to accept Him. For two, Hell doesn't exist yet. Hell is not the same as Hades/Sheol. Hell will be created on Judgment Day and the damned will be sent there.

I think this begs the question...how are the dead able to listen to Jesus???? The only way can be if their souls are discarnate spirits not attached to physical bodies. Thus, this gives credence to the idea that souls have to go somewhere in between incarnations (Origen was anathemitized as a heretic for talking about pre existence of the soul)... and Hades must be a place where souls who have seriously misbehaved go. Why would Jesus bother to go there and preach if they could not be saved through free will acceptance of God? Jesus would want to bring their souls back to God, and not to worship himself as a god.....Jesus himself said that God was his Father. If only people would think through these things in a more logical manner, but the Church presents idiotic ideas and present them as truth.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Enzo954

 

I almost become a different person. Does this mean a demon is possessing me or I'm going to change my last name to Fierce? Of course not!!!! It's something inside of me that comes out when needed to get the job done. Everybody has that second persona in them to a degree. Enough with the demon nonsense.

I would say you over came your fears. That's quite different from what Beyonce has admitted is going on with her and what is plain to see if you read the whole thread. Are you demon possessed ? Just asking.

edit on 1-3-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

It's the same type of thing that Beyonce is talking about. The difference is that she's a performer/artist and overly dramatic about what she does.

And to answer your question about whether I am possessed by a demon, I won't confirm or deny just so you guys can possibly pin a demon possession on someone else. I'll leave it up to the forum to decide. Have fun!!!

reply to post by Enzo954

What happens to me is NOT an adrenaline rush. An adrenaline rush is lifting up a piano that fell on your sister not changing your persona. No offense, I just don't agree.

It's mere pavilion conditioning.

Just... extremely advanced pavilion conditioning.

The Trauma initiation is the perversion of a mental defence mechanism of the brain.

Too much pain, and we retreat into our own mind.

Our concious mind goes to sleep, and our more primitive instinctual mind takes over.... usually child like due to the nature of the instinct.

On initiating the trauma, a specific "Trigger" is chosen, that the victim associates with the "Trauma", thus, over time, the subject "Learns" to go into the protective mental childlike state, upon the application of the "Trigger" (which could be any stimuli)

Like, if I rang a bell before I zapped you with 10,000 volts....

Eventually, you would associate the sound of the bell, with the pain, and the sound itself would cause you to go into "defence" mode, where your higher brain functions shut down....

And in this "Lowered" state, new behavioural conditioning could be built upon.

Description: She is explaining that she is grateful for her success, but, questions why she was given her talent.

reply to post by daryllyn


Yep, this is the one I was referring to. It is odd to say the least. Eyes darting about unnaturally; body language wise this speaks volumes but just at face value, it's not easy to talk and have your eyes constantly dart to the left and right. Try it; it will give you a headache. How many people cry when they are living the dream? Although she smiles at the end, it's a sad smile. So to me, it is either another "performance" or a crack in her programming.

Another thing that struck me as odd....is that she not only mentions her talent but that she is alive. Why wouldn't she be? She doesn't have a particularly dangerous job as a singer.


Remember, this is the same woman who when a big Christmas tree fell over in her crowded audience was more concerned with having broken a nail than the welfare of the people who may have been seriously injured.

Still looking for the black eyed picture of her.

reply to post by Enzo954




(Where did those triceps come from!?)





I hope you don't look like that when you are giving a presentation.

Once you are in the "Lowered State" I could continue adding pavlovian responses... like....

If you behaved in a way that I approved of, I would give you a "Pleasurable" stimuli....

And if you behaved in a way that I didn't approve of, I would give you a "Painful" stimuli...

Eventually, your "Altered State" that is caused by the ringing of the bell, would take on the behavioural traits that you had learned were most likely to result in pleasure.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

I think this begs the question...how are the dead able to listen to Jesus???? The only way can be if their souls are discarnate spirits not attached to physical bodies.

It doesn't beg the question at all. He went down and spoke to their souls, obviously.

Thus, this gives credence to the idea that souls have to go somewhere in between incarnations (Origen was anathemitized as a heretic for talking about pre existence of the soul)... and Hades must be a place where souls who have seriously misbehaved go.

Actually, no. Hades/Sheol was where all souls went prior to the coming of Jesus. He went down and gave them the chance to accept Him.

Why would Jesus bother to go there and preach if they could not be saved through free will acceptance of God?

Huh?

Jesus would want to bring their souls back to God, and not to worship himself as a god.....Jesus himself said that God was his Father.

Now you are getting into the complexities of the Godhead, which is heavily off-topic. If you want to discuss it, u2u me.

If only people would think through these things in a more logical manner, but the Church presents idiotic ideas and present them as truth.

If by church you mean the modern day Christian church? Sure. They teach a lot of false doctrines. Not sure why you have to descend to name calling. If by church you mean "The Body of Christ" then I have to disagree with you.

But if you think the church is "idiotic" then perhaps you shouldn't bother u2uing me. Your attitude says you have no desire to learn.

reply to post by Enzo954

And to answer your question about whether I am possessed by a demon, I won't confirm or deny just so you guys can possibly pin a demon possession on someone else. I'll leave it up to the forum to decide. Have fun!!!

WoooOOoo ! Are sure you sure you want to do that.? I mean what if your character morphs in to the shape of a pretzel ?

Originally posted by ArchaicDesigns
reply to post by Enzo954

I hope you don't look like that when you are giving a presentation.

Or when you were being breast fed.

Originally posted by Enzo954

It's the same type of thing that Beyonce is talking about. The difference is that she's a performer/artist and overly dramatic about what she does.

Sigh. Here we go with this again. I'll say to you what I said to the others. What evidence do you have to back up this claim? How do you know she's just acting? What in her words indicates that it was nothing but a metaphor? What context clues indicate she was not being literal?

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr


You replied to observationalist but it looks like you missed what was posted:

“I have someone else that takes over when it’s time for me to work and when I’m on stage, this alter ego that I’ve created that kind of protects me and who I really am. When I’m onstage I’m aggressive and strong and not afraid of my sexuality. The tone of my voice gets different, and I’m fearless. I’m just a different person.” ~ Beyonce

She states right there that it is an alter ego the she created.

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Who says she is acting?

Every performer is acting. No entertainer gets on stage with the same personality they have off it. Stage presence requires a certain swagger that would be to over the top for every day living, but it's needed for a good show. You have to "channel it". They aren't really channeling demons, they are just getting into character. I make music and a lot of my friends do as well, many of us can be shy off stage, but you'd never know it if a show was your only exposure to them. In person I'm a mellow calm person, but that's not entertaining so I'd have to summon my inner bad ass.

Do you know any musicians? I bet they would tell you the same.

Have you ever written a song? It's funny to me when I see all you people seeing lyrics like eminem's and you take them literally. It's artistic expressions, we use similes, metaphors, and imagery to convey what we are saying. It's ART! I'm not a christian but sometimes when I write, I might reference a christian Idea because I know people listening will understand it. I'm not a demon but If I say I feel like a caged demon, it gives you an image you can understand it's not meant to be taken literally, I don't need you to come splash me with holy water.