More on Infinity...

The big bang theory sounds like a thought being born and along with it a wealth of abundance of imagination being painted across black canvas of infinity. To us it seems like an eternity but to the one who thought it, its only just begun.

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energy.... this term came to mind idk if its my brain going wtf or what lol
see when im thinking of this im thinking of the LHC and a beam firing in a chamber colliding matter in a way.....
i simply dont know what that process would incur maybe this is already happining or maybe its a set cycle idk to guage something of this magnitude you would need a conglomerate of cooperative civilizations spanning a massive amount of time measuring everything that is in the universe and accurately preserving the information

mass effect comes to mind

did i trail off subject?

EDIT: I am sorry

Originally posted by WarriorOfLight96
The big bang theory sounds like a thought being born and along with it a wealth of abundance of imagination being painted across black canvas of infinity. To us it seems like an eternity but to the one who thought it, its only just begun.

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i like this theory as well it ties in well with hermes and ancient theology IMO

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Sometimes the simplest possible explanations are too difficult to fully grasp or understand... Since we are still dealing with "what ifs"...

What if there is evidence that the expansion of the universe is slowing, and that there are far more black holes than previously theorized, that our own spiral galaxy's matter is spiraling inward toward our own black hole at an accelerating rate?

What if we are already passed the point of return and the great retraction (reverse of the "big bang") is beginning, and will accelerate rapidly now?

Just what ifs for thought....

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hmm idk espcially for the ones alive during the overture now that is a interesting theory and a good movie plot if you ask me lol thing is we dont know whats on the otherside of the black hole and perhaps never will..got any more what ifs? i think your a damn good narrator

Originally posted by GRS1234
got any more what ifs?

Sure, what if those "what ifs" are not "what ifs' at all?

What if our own space, our solar system is going to become a very chaotic place, far sooner than you can possibly imagine?

Originally posted by Phage
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Are you saying that you know their are universes where time does not exist or with in the concept of infinity?

No. I'm saying that if there are infinite universes, by definition there would be such universes. With infinity, everything can exist and therefore must.

Cause if you talking about with in the concepts of infinity then it did answer your question. Remember every possibility including math every thing and math being nothing.

You lost me.

If your just dealing with no time, then from a outside perspective from another universe that does have time you can.

You selected a single example. What about dealing with the infinite possibilities of an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of permutations of physical laws? Do you think that math can describe such? A bit more specifically, do you think the human mind (which creates math) can?

How do you perceive time? whats your understanding of it?

I perceive time as a stream of events. That's also my understanding of it but I am also aware of and can see the reasoning behind other models even though those models hold no relevance to my existence.

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"You lost me."
You said "With infinity, everything can exist and therefore must." So if every possibility must exist then their are possibility that their are universes witch math cannot describe

"You selected a single example. What about dealing with the infinite possibilities of an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of permutations of physical laws? Do you think that math can describe such?"
With in those universes yes, it maybe different math, and physics but it can still be applied. When looking at them as a whole it would be impossible but you cant conceive the whole, its infinite. If your talking about a universe witch cannot be described using math, how could any one comprehend that? But then again a couple 100 years ago we would not be able to conceive the existence of dark matter with out knowing of the frequency ranges. It has to exist for infinity to exist in a infinite amount of ways.

Infinity is a contradiction, a looping path. I think 8 is the best way to symbolize it. Every scope you perceive infinity in has a opposite just as the eight has a top circle and a bottom circle. A universe exist with math then a universe has to exist with out math, in one universe earth is blue in another earth is red ect...

Other than math what else is infinite? Frequency and if frequency is infinite then the universe is infinite because reality is frequency decoded by the brain. The chair your sitting on is supporting you but with in the same space is a infinite number of you's as well as every one that has ever existed plus infinite amount of others are sitting in the same chair you are, you cant perceive them because your sense do not operate with in their frequency range.
I am not a scientist I am limited by my own knowledge but from my perspective this is the way frequency works. I am looking for forward to your reply.

"I perceive time as a stream of events. That's also my understanding of it but I am also aware of and can see the reasoning behind other models even though those models hold no relevance to my existence."

I perceive time as distorted memory's and believe its a illusion that can be looked at as a whole from a outside perspective.

Originally posted by GRS1234
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well duality is simply an emotional guage from humankind its a measurement, and carries no weight in the universe IMO

Could you explain more because I think it dose. Every reaction has a equal and opposite reaction right? Light and darkness are bonded to each other because you would not know one with out the other. Every thing has a opposite right?

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well in that sense you are right what i was implying was that its all in our head. you think light and darkness is bonded in reality its not to us it is you get it? its all a matter of observance how do you know there are not more shades of gray than one? i was really refering to emotional duality though but yeah good question. i see your point better than mine lol i worded my statement entirely wrong and as a result i jumped the gun on the convo and put my foot in my mouth !!!

EDIT: more than you can perceive

well that duality question is making me think more than id like to lol interesting subject infinity ty for posing that question

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Infinity is a contradiction, a looping path. I think 8 is the best way to symbolize it. Every scope you perceive infinity in has a opposite just as the eight has a top circle and a bottom circle. A universe exist with math then a universe has to exist with out math, in one universe earth is blue in another earth is red ect...

Actually, once the idea of dimensions and layers is applied, virtually any symbol becomes an adequate representation of infinity. Take a three dimensional cube and you can draw hundreds of paths that would form an infinite loop.

But once you apply duality vs unity, you come up with a circle. Two sides that feed seamlessly into one another, forming an infinite loop of continual motion. I find this thought corroborated by the Flower of Life and the Fruit of Life...two ancient secrets, the latter of which would once have gotten you killed just to speak of it outside of closed doors.

And that very first seed is referred to as "the circle of awareness". Consciousness which takes on a dimension of observation. Our dimension of observation has a span too, the visible light spectrum. And just beyond that is the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum. This, in turn, leads me to suspect that the next stage of existence lies somewhere in the realm of electromagnetism. But that's just speculation on my part.

You know how they say that a line is composed of infinite points? Imagine that line as a circle. Infinite points on that circle. If certain states of existence were placed strategically in a staggered pattern along those points, wouldn't that mean that an infinite range of existential states could exist in any place at any time? Like layers and layers of teeth interlocking but not overlapping. The higher the vibration, the easier it slips through. Like gas through a vent.

Again, just speculation.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Infinity is a contradiction, a looping path. I think 8 is the best way to symbolize it. Every scope you perceive infinity in has a opposite just as the eight has a top circle and a bottom circle. A universe exist with math then a universe has to exist with out math, in one universe earth is blue in another earth is red ect...

Actually, once the idea of dimensions and layers is applied, virtually any symbol becomes an adequate representation of infinity. Take a three dimensional cube and you can draw hundreds of paths that would form an infinite loop.

But once you apply duality vs unity, you come up with a circle. Two sides that feed seamlessly into one another, forming an infinite loop of continual motion. I find this thought corroborated by the Flower of Life and the Fruit of Life...two ancient secrets, the latter of which would once have gotten you killed just to speak of it outside of closed doors.

And that very first seed is referred to as "the circle of awareness". Consciousness which takes on a dimension of observation. Our dimension of observation has a span too, the visible light spectrum. And just beyond that is the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum. This, in turn, leads me to suspect that the next stage of existence lies somewhere in the realm of electromagnetism. But that's just speculation on my part.

You know how they say that a line is composed of infinite points? Imagine that line as a circle. Infinite points on that circle. If certain states of existence were placed strategically in a staggered pattern along those points, wouldn't that mean that an infinite range of existential states could exist in any place at any time? Like layers and layers of teeth interlocking but not overlapping. The higher the vibration, the easier it slips through. Like gas through a vent.

Again, just speculation.

I wonder how much of this has been tested. Is this is a popular idea with in the scientific community? If its not then why? Because some one or something is holding them back or because it dose not make sense? From my perspective I can see how other reality's exist with in our's because of the infinite frequency range why cant main stream science?

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Honestly, I don't know why our technology hasn't traced these other dimensions yet.

Originally posted by GRS1234
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hmm idk espcially for the ones alive during the overture now that is a interesting theory and a good movie plot if you ask me lol thing is we dont know whats on the otherside of the black hole and perhaps never will..got any more what ifs? i think your a damn good narrator

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Everything that has a beginning, has an end...

This BREAKING NEWS explains how our universe may be "fundamentally unstable"

news.yahoo.com...

So maybe my "what ifs" were not too far fetched eh?

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Everything that has a beginning, has an end...

This BREAKING NEWS explains how our universe may be "fundamentally unstable"

We're "fundamentally unstable" as a species. What does that say about us?

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The human propensity toward violence isn't nearly as worrisome as the universe's ability to erase itself from existence.

Don't know about you, but I'd rather take my chances with an inherently unstable human race, than an unpredictably unstable universe.

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if you think one or less then you don't believe in infinity.

If you think there was only one you don't believe in infinity. But if there was none, all bets are off.

As it happens, I think there was one. There are no infinite quantities in nature.

Originally posted by fltcui
None, because if everything was created from a big bang, what medium did it create it in. The theory holds that there was nothing before the big bang, so even if there were a "singularity" hiding out, what did it explode into. It couldn't exploded into nothingness now could it?
Nothing = Nothing

You do know that a infinite space that is absolutely empty is the same as nothing? But it is still there and Infinite.

Why cant the singularity expand within this space? There is no law that states that it cant.

Originally posted by Astyanax
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if you think one or less then you don't believe in infinity.

If you think there was only one you don't believe in infinity. But if there was none, all bets are off.

As it happens, I think there was one. There are no infinite quantities in nature.

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Every species has the capability of producing infinity. Their is no limit on how many times a certain animal can be born.
If you read my other post you will see my perspective clearly. Singularity can exist with in infinity because its apart of it.

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Every species has the capability of producing infinity.

Is this a profession of faith, or do you believe that the statement can be empirically verified? I don't see how it can.

Their is no limit on how many times a certain animal can be born.

No animal can be born more than once. I suppose you mean there is no theoretical upper limit to the population of a species. Well, there are no theoretical upper limits to lots of things, but in practice none of them attain infinity. They are prevented from doing so by the facts of reality.

That, incidentally, is the difference between mathematics and reality. If you can't see it, consider the possibility that you are autistic.

If you read my other post you will see my perspective clearly.

I read your other posts. They tell us what you believe in, but not why it makes sense to do so.

I repeat, there are no infinite quantities in nature. Infinity does not exist in any form as far as we know. Infinity is an idea, not a real thing.