More on Infinity...

How many Big Bangs were (are) there?
(imo) ~if you think one or less then you don't believe in infinity.)

None, because if everything was created from a big bang, what medium did it create it in. The theory holds that there was nothing before the big bang, so even if there were a "singularity" hiding out, what did it explode into. It couldn't exploded into nothingness now could it?
Nothing = Nothing

Only one that matters to us.

If a big bang happens in a forrest, and no one is around to hear it, is it still a big bang? It's the big bangs that go by the initials 'GRB' that scare me !

Nothing = Nothing...
What's beyond nothing...You don't believe in infinity?

reply to post by Phage


I wouldn't mind entertaining the notion that we are not in a box. For entertainment reasons..of course.

reply to post by canucks555

What difference does it make if you can't get to it's sides?
I feel limited in an elevator. I don't feel limited when I look at the night sky and I can only see a tiny, tiny, bit of what is there.

What do you think? (outside the known science box)
Are we even capable of asking the question? That's what it sounds like.

Originally posted by Phage
Only one that matters to us.

Yeah, but what about the billions before, and the billions that come after?

reply to post by fltcui


It? more like an infinite amount..

like pop corn but worse

reply to post by Phage


But what if we're inside a black hole? Wouldn't the big bang from our black holes universe matter to us?

That's a big "if" though.

reply to post by canucks555

There are a number of cosmologists asking the question. That's fine. It's great as a matter of fact because in the process more is being learned about our own tiny little universe.

What is it that you find so attractive about the possibility of other universes? The idea that "anything is possible?" Attractive idea but so what? In a universe where gravity doesn't exist, we could not survive. In a universe where 2+2 = 347 I'd fail math.

This is how I explain it.

You have a vast canvas covered in black paint. To all appearances, the coat is perfect throughout. Not a single flaw. You would look at it and say, "There's nothing there. Just darkness."

We identify "something" through a break in the pattern. Now put an ant on that black painting. If the ant sits still, you would still say, "There's nothing there."

Now imagine a grain of sand. You would notice it and say, "Oh, there's sand." Because there's a break in the pattern.

So if there was nothing in the beginning except for that point of singularity, then how do we know it wasn't just a perfect state of serene calm, not a single break in the pattern anywhere. We would say it's nothing because we are unable to discern anything.

I don't know, I'm just throwing ideas in the ring. Personally, I think it's an awesome idea to consider.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

But what if we're inside a black hole? Wouldn't the big bang from our black holes universe matter to us?

I don't know. Does it? What difference would it make?

reply to post by Phage


Because our black hole would have never been created if it's home universe didn't have a big bang. I said it was a big if though.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Ok. You're right.
Now what? How can it be proven? What difference would it make?

What is it that you find so attractive about the possibility of other universes? The idea that "anything is possible?" Attractive idea but so what?

Because I've been somewhat bored on a cosmological platform. It's whimsical.. This thread, I know. -
-If we as a species were 1000 years plus into the future we might ask the same questions


At the end of the day I guess we just take the trash to the driveway and go to work the next.

reply to post by Phage


Just thought I'd throw that possibility out there. Just staying on topic you know?

reply to post by canucks555

Because I've been somewhat bored on a cosmological platform.

Seriously?

There is a constant stream of new discoveries. A lot of "what the hell is going on here?"
Just because it doesn't mean that 2+2 =247 doesn't mean that it isn't cool as all get out.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Since you're dealing with "what ifs" ... What if every galaxy in our universe has a black hole at the core, and over time the black holes consume all of the matter in their galaxies, then over even more time all of the black holes consume each other until all matter in our universe is compressed into one single point in space and then BANG it all begins again?

Hey, maybe you've been here before billions of times already?