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Independent Study Proves Guns Don’t Kill People *Shocking Evidence

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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
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Interesting study for sure. I have an idea for a study which you might also want to consider. Under the same conditions as your previous study check and see if the guns are capable of saving a persons life.


Nope, guns don’t save lives. People save lives USING guns.

Good catch!



Funny how so many gun advocates can't seem to grasp this simple logic.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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Yes, indeed misleading interpretation, or unintelligent and stupid one.

Cigarettes dont kill people, radioactive cloud dont kill people, GMO dont kill people, TNT exploding in your face dont kill people. Thats indeed the same argumentation. Who dont understand, well you are in second group of my first sentence.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by cripmeister

Originally posted by seabag
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Interesting study for sure. I have an idea for a study which you might also want to consider. Under the same conditions as your previous study check and see if the guns are capable of saving a persons life.


Nope, guns don’t save lives. People save lives USING guns.

Good catch!



Funny how so many gun advocates can't seem to grasp this simple logic.


It works both ways, doesn't it?

I understand why some people want to outlaw ALL guns...I really do. It seems like a simple, easy way to get rid of a problem (gun violence). The problem with that logic is that all the laws in the world won't stop gun violence because criminals don't abide by the law. And, making stricter gun laws only serves to take away the most effective means of self preservation law abiding citizens have.

Guns will never go away. Nukes will never go away. Computers will never go away!

Once you LEARN something you can never UNLEARN IT.



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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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For months now I can't shake the feeling that someone in the shadow gov,or who ever
wants to take our right to own guns.I really belive that some of the acts of violence here
in the last few years were done by manchurian candidates.I would like to say that I
do not even own a gun,so I'm not all gung ho about firearms.My opinion is that even
If they baned all firearms,people would still have them.Just like the drug war,drugs are
Everywhere even with the jail time and fines.I really don't know how many lives will be
saved by limiting mags and banning assault rifles either.
Thanks for reading I just had to get this off my chest and I feel better now



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:37 PM
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you are correct ciggerets do not kill people on their own they have to be smoked,radioactive clouds may kill people but usually only after a nuclear strike or accident(requiring in most but not all cases human action or negligence) tnt is the same but with more caveats in that after a time tnt becomes unstable and can blow up due to leaching of the nitro out of the sticks which then becomes shock sensitive but in most cases tnt does not kill people unless people use it to kill people



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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S&F 2 sentences into the post Seabag. Now I gotta get back to reading it!



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by blamethegreys
S&F 2 sentences into the post Seabag. Now I gotta get back to reading it!


Thanks!


Well let me know what you think when you get done reading.

I thought it was a worthwhile venture.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:55 PM
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This wasnt funny, clever or valid when posted by those 2 hillbilllys on youtube and its not funny, clever or valid after youve plagiarised them and passed it off as your own great idea.

I would love to see the average IQs of gun owners vs non gun owners, the fact anyone finds this amusing or compelling says alot



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew

 




Seriously, it's difficult for most Britons to understand why Americans want guns and difficult for many Americans to undertand why Britons don't want guns. Our cultures are very similar, yet in some ways still quite different.


What?!?!

YOU PEOPLE DID IT TO US, made us all so paranoid and oppressed that we made it a constitutionally defined right! Your taxation w/o representation, unlawful search and seizures, musket control measures, occupational forces...and that DAMNED ACCENT!




posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
This wasnt funny, clever or valid when posted by those 2 hillbilllys on youtube and its not funny, clever or valid after youve plagiarised them and passed it off as your own great idea.

I would love to see the average IQs of gun owners vs non gun owners, the fact anyone finds this amusing or compelling says alot
The fact law abiding citizens can be around every type of gun known to man and even grenades and not kill anyone I think poses a serious threat to the gun grabbing nanny state do as I say not as I do mentality... I do find that funny, and clever to even think someone with such a gun hating soul would ever begin to understand what this thread means and stands for..

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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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I cannot believe how many people are up your azz thinking you actually left loaded weapons untended in public! Not for a split second did I even entertain the possibility that you actually did that...

I should know better than to assume people can think logically. Common sense seems to be a very rare commodity these days. I wish I could bottle it, but I imagine folks wouldn't have the common sense to buy it


My 14yo kid is a "Brony". Just google it, it's weird and harmless. He had a key layard hanging out of his pocket, with My Little Pony characters printed on it, and the principal stopped and harassed him to make sure it wasn't "gang related".


See if I could just bottle some common sense...Maybe I could give the first bottle for free? Ya think that might work?
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:08 PM
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I would love to see the average IQs of gun owners vs non gun owners, the fact anyone finds this amusing or compelling says alot


No contest as gun owners know full well what their weapons are capable of as non gun owners just repeat adminstration talking points.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
This wasnt funny, clever or valid when posted by those 2 hillbilllys on youtube and its not funny, clever or valid after youve plagiarised them and passed it off as your own great idea.

I would love to see the average IQs of gun owners vs non gun owners, the fact anyone finds this amusing or compelling says alot


Here. I dare you to match wits.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:22 PM
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This thread shows the average intelligence of a rabid gun owners lol...

It brings a bad name to "research" or "comparison". Something the gun owners have trouble understanding..

Car vs Guns? lol really?


Gun down kill people, people kill people, so would a monkey with a gun.

The people make it easier for the criminals to do their crime.

I see people tossing "Law aiding citizen" around.. all the mass murderers were law abiding citizen at one point too, that you are trying to protect. What if the average law abiding citizen all of sudden turns into a criminal(due to personal reason)? oh right! at that point we can divert the attention by blaming pharmaceuticals and ultra government black projects...

You might be living in a fantasy land thinking all gun owners are responsible people who keep their inner instinct hidden and under control.

Less gun/strict control = less gun related crime, its logic.

Check other countries with no gun or are you gonna pull up other crime statics saying "hey look crime.. happens.."... compare apples and apples, not apples and watermelon.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
This thread shows the average intelligence of a rabid gun owners lol...


Let me guess you're going to set millions of Law abiding gun owners straight..


It brings a bad name to "research" or "comparison". Something the gun owners have trouble understanding..


Which you've obviously done none..


Check other countries with no gun or are you gonna pull up other crime statics saying "hey look crime.. happens.."... compare apples and apples, not apples and watermelon.


Didn't bother reading the thread eh?

Figures...



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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They can ban everything under the sun and it will still be people killing people.
Of course if everything is banned we will just use branches and rocks, cant blame manufacturers so who you gonna blame for leaving all the branches and rocks around, the creator?



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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I could sit here an take pot shots at the anti gun crowds "intelligence" don't really have to as current events speak for themselves.




The people make it easier for the criminals to do their crime.


When they support gun laws that created gun free zone they do indeed make it easier for a criminal to commit a crime.




Less gun/strict control = less gun related crime, its logic.


That logic is flawed as Chicago and other cities,and states disprove that.
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
This thread shows the average intelligence of a rabid gun owners lol...

It brings a bad name to "research" or "comparison". Something the gun owners have trouble understanding..

Car vs Guns? lol really?


Gun down kill people, people kill people, so would a monkey with a gun.

The people make it easier for the criminals to do their crime.

I see people tossing "Law aiding citizen" around.. all the mass murderers were law abiding citizen at one point too, that you are trying to protect. What if the average law abiding citizen all of sudden turns into a criminal(due to personal reason)? oh right! at that point we can divert the attention by blaming pharmaceuticals and ultra government black projects...

You might be living in a fantasy land thinking all gun owners are responsible people who keep their inner instinct hidden and under control.

Less gun/strict control = less gun related crime, its logic.

Check other countries with no gun or are you gonna pull up other crime statics saying "hey look crime.. happens.."... compare apples and apples, not apples and watermelon.
Not everyone is going to agree on this subject.. As I can not with yours stance. The op has created an experiment and with that results were found that even though multiple loaded guns were left around did not lead to one single problem... Especially more evident that only thugs with weapons kill people. Not farmer Joe who enjoys collecting weapons..
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