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Originally posted by Hydrawolf
It's too late...Gone too far...It should have been done years ago...You guys are #ed sorry to say...Your toys will be your downfall.
let's never forget though....the 2nd amendment isn't just some hand-me-down hunting license...it's far more than that..you can hunt with a bow and arrow...defending your home, property, or person with one is not entirely practical though...
Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that Americans don't need semi-automatic weapons to protect their homes because a couple of blasts from a shotgun will scare off intruders. "Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun," the vice president encouraged those worried about defending themselves. He was speaking in an online video as part of a Facebook town hall hosted by Parents Magazine on the administration's strategy for reducing gun violence, which he has led at the direction of President Barack Obama. Biden said he keeps two shotguns and shells locked up at home and he's told his wife, Jill, to use them if she needs protection. He presumably was speaking about before he became vice president, a position that gives the couple full-time Secret Service protection. "I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony ... take that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,'" Biden said. "You don't need an AR-15. It's harder to aim, it's harder to use and in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself."
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by cripmeister
Read the Talmud and you will see some of the same views of the Gentile .
Originally posted by Daedalus
reply to post by butcherguy
and if Biden really believes that, then that just serves to clearly demonstrate how completely out of touch he is with reality...
This is what happens when your "elected" representatives come from money, never had to do real work, never had to live in the real world...all they have is their sheltered, secured, unrealistic lives of privilege to draw from, and i'm sorry, but the rest of the world doesn't work that way..
Thats why, in a republic, the elected representatives are supposed to be actually elected, and they're supposed to be regular folk...not these "holier-than-thou because i have money" types who don't know s**t about s**t, and are only in politics to further enrich themselves, and further their own interests..they don't give a s**t about the people, or their rights....edit on 20-2-2013 by Daedalus because: (no reason given)
lets not forget to mention that he's been drinking the MSM kool-aid, and thinks that they're trying to specifically ban only automatic weapons....
Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by Daedalus
lets not forget to mention that he's been drinking the MSM kool-aid, and thinks that they're trying to specifically ban only automatic weapons....
Not what I said. And it's difficult to choose between the MSM kool-aid and the masses of dis-info peddled by the NRA/pro-gun lobby. Many on ATS are drinking the gun lobby koolaid. My responses simply point that out.
Anyway, time will tell if I'm living in a world of illusion. Frankly could care less which way it goes but willing to bet you are wrong about how far this will go. Much ado about nothing. Americans will still be able to purchase guns and people will continue to kill people.... even without gunsedit on 20-2-2013 by Mike.Ockizard because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by SLAYER69
Do you practice those patronising comments or do they just come naturally to you?
I don’t think you’re getting my point,
The idea that “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” is flawed because while yes the individual holding the gun is ultimately responsible for pulling the trigger the existence of the gun gives the individual the means to kill hence the gun is also partly responsible for the death of another as it was the tool used.
it's pretty common for folks to post without reading the actual bill.
What the bill does:
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:
All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:
Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Mike.Ockizard
Unfortunately, it is common for the legislators to vote on a bill without reading it.