Meteorite Crashes in Russia

flap crackers...

I blame you Solargeddon

I almost left intact, my broken rule.. but on second thoughts.

removing my post..

reply to post by solargeddon

No. I directed my post properly.
It was a bit of additional support in disassociating the meteor from the asteroid.

There were a lot of guesses about what actually happened. As time goes by additional information, like the actual path of the meteor, makes things more clear.

reply to post by Realtruth

They speak of some 9 different parts -from the same original 40 ton meteorite- spread out over 200km - 6 different cities, 4 villages ...

reply to post by Realtruth


One picture was captioned, no it didn't hit that factory, that damage was from the result of the shock wave..

reply to post by Bicent76

its just ironic, a big meteor hits russia, hours before a close encounter with DA-14... It certainly seems like they can be related in some form or fashion.. I am no scientist, but my opinion is they are related... Is DA-12 going to be closer then they are guessing?

Gravity is important.

Trajectory is important and speed is important.

Direction and angle of the eliptic is important.

Sun and some surface components are important.

but if is made of metal and it is,then...

Temperature is essential

and Magnetic field of Earth

and if is made of metal

then

Now, researchers find that magnesium oxide, a common rocky mineral on Earth, can transform into liquid metal at the extreme pressures and temperatures found in super-Earths. This fluid metal could help generate magnetic dynamos in super-Earths, they say

Magnesium oxide is a transparent ceramic found from Earth's surface to its deepest mantle. To see how this rocky material might behave in alien planets, researchers fired powerful lasers at small pieces of magnesium oxide, in just 1 billionth of a second, heating and squeezing this mineral to conditions found inside super-Earths, such as pressures up to 14 million times normal Earth atmospheric pressure and temperatures as high as 90,000 degrees Fahrenheit (50,000 Celsius). They watched this rocky substance change to a solid with a new crystal structure, and finally into a liquid metal.

"What was most surprising was how well-behaved magnesium oxide is in the laboratory," said lead study author R. Stewart McWilliams, a geophysicist at the Carnegie Institution of Washington. "The physical properties of magnesium oxide look very similar to what has been predicted for decades by theorists. As scientists, we can't ask for much better."

"It is often said that life on planets may require the presence of a strong magnetic field to protect organisms from dangerous radiation from space such as cosmic rays — at least this may be true for certain types of life, similar to humans, that live on a planet's surface," McWilliams said. "We find that magnetic fields may occur on a wider range of planets than previously thought, possibly creating unexpected environments for life in the universe.".

www.space.com...

and

Magnets stick to each other because all (or a majority, anyway) of the atoms in a metal are aligned in the same direction. (Some) metals become magnets when exposed to a magnetic field, causing them to become attracted to each other If a metal is hot enough to be in liquid form, all of the atoms are too busy jumping around to align themselves to the magnetic field. Perhaps if a liquid metal were exposed to a very powerful magnet, the atoms in the liquid would align themselves and turn the liquid into a solid. That's pure speculation, however. What I know is that magnets, if heated to a sufficient degree, lose their magnetic properties.

boards.straightdope.com...

Here's a thought does NASA or China even, have the technology to capture a 1 km wide asteroid and use it as a weapon against another nation....say, like strap some super rockets to it, fly it around the moon using the Moons Gravity to hurl it back a super speed towards...say Iran...

reply to post by clearmind

this link says the cuban thing was on wed?!?!

Assuming something really did occur in Cuba, maybe the Russia and Cuban incidents are not related?

reply to post by Soloprotocol


Yes.
It happens everyday.

reply to post by Phage


That just makes the story even more strange.....


So the meteor we were really suppose to be watching hit us, and we did not know it was coming...

That is why I think its so hard for me to listen to all these people explain things to me about asteroids, the universe, etc. Science, and then this asteroid slams into Russia today...

Now everyone is saying its not related because trajectory this trajectory that, etc, and I can believe that, then lets just say this...

We did not see this meteor coming, and in my opinion its very coincidental and ironic it happens hours before 2012 DA-14.

I know something like this happened back in what was it IRELAND? or Greenland I don't recall last year, but nothing quite like this here in RUSSIA..

Its just a weird story, maybe its getting more traction due to the DA-14 event...

I guess its normal for big Meteors to be slamming into the atmosphere making contrails and explosions...

reply to post by Creep Thumper


i'm just saying that the laws of physics stay the same. Shock waves from the blast can't be eliptical no matter what the trajectory of the object was

Originally posted by DarthFazer
Here is some more footage

Be nice if someone could subtitle the russian so we could know what they are saying.

Originally posted by clearmind
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

translate.google.com... o-celeste-explode-sobre-vila-no-interior-de-cub%2F581697%2F

this link says the cuban thing was on wed?!?!

yes that is what I said on the last page

reply to post by Phage


Still reminds me of the Lovejoy "thing" that road in front of the Comet seen in the videos Lasco c3 images @ about 1:37pm direction using a clock location reference -clock from south long hand to north short hand as it went SOL ward.. Also another member I think did comment in one of the threads earlier this month about how activities would build up on CT related sites near the 15 of feb, found that interesting..
Rover activities. .. ... .... What is really being observed up there Phage, must be interesting as well?

NAMASTE*******

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by winofiend

 

Fun with simple math.

2012 DA14 has a velocity of 7.82km/s relative to Earth.
The meteor struck at what, about 15 hours before closest approach of the satellite? Ignoring the fact that the meteor came from the direction of the Sun and the asteroid is passing on the opposite side, this would mean that if the two objects were on similar orbits the meteor would have to have been more than 400,000 km in front of the asteroid.

Sort of hard to connect the two, even if they were on the same orbit. Which they weren't.

edit on 2/15/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

I agree with you Phage. In an earlier post i kind of poked fun at you and referred to an asteroid 'system". Apparently i was off base on that given the reported trajectories.

2 asteroid in one night in different parts of the world, neither previously tracked, plus the big one just passing by and it appears we have interesting times ahead. Kind of feels like waiting for a hurricane which i have done many times (most don't hit).

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

I have no idea what you just said.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical

If you are talking about the supposed fireball in Cuba. That is not confirmed to have happened but apparently, if it did, it was on Wednesday.

Originally posted by solargeddon
Of course this is all in your "opinion," as per the information made available to you.

Not saying your perspective is wrong, but I'm not going to dissmiss the open minded approach some of the experts are taking either.

Always be a masochist...make life more interesting!

Well, I know I can trust things like direction. We use satellites every day to guide us with varying degrees of success, and all in all, the technology used to get those things to be accurate to within a few meters is pretty good. It's that same technology and skill that is used to determine the trajectory of these things.

Sure, we can throw our arms up and claim that no one knows anything for certain therefore we cannot accept anything as fact... but my compass points north. I don't need an explanation as to why south, therefore, is in the opposite direction.

So, if a trajectory of one thing is relatively south/north, and the trajectory of another thing is relatively east/west, I can go by my own ability to determine if they have met in their trajectory in any recent time.

It might be opinion. But it gets pretty much everyone on the planet who uses satellite technology, where they want to be.

otherwise we'd all be bumping into each other. I have a little more faith in humans than that.

Unless, we're talking the recent addition of lies lies and more lies from that evil insidious nazi concentration camp called nasa.

Then I'll have to agree to disagree.. as that's the realm of things beyond my capabilities..

Assuming a rifle bullet has a ~3,000mph speed, and this thing had an estimated speed of 30,000mph, I would very much like to know what defense system (automated or not) has the capacity to detect and intercept it. I mean it's 10x faster than one of the fastest bullets...

And wow, this thread is huge now, it was only 4 pages some 10 hours ago...

reply to post by Bicent76

So the meteor we were really suppose to be watching hit us, and we did not know it was coming...

It was a small rock coming from the Sun which would make it just about impossible to see. Yes, we did not know it was coming.