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Originally posted by Urantia1111
reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin
No no no. You're missing the point. First, stopping cars for no reason at all is an infringement on personal liberty. You're conditioned to accept random stops so you see nothing wrong with it.
Second, now having been randomly detained, there are legal BOUNDARIES that are supposed to be observed as the officier interacts with the citizen. The officer is going to try to move those boundaries in their favor every time. If the citizen dares to know and mention where those boundaries are, he opens himself up to retaliatory tantrums in the form of further detention or fines etc simply by exercising his right NOT to be hassled.
This OP is about holding the line and keeping those officers in check.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
Originally posted by Urantia1111
reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin
No no no. You're missing the point. First, stopping cars for no reason at all is an infringement on personal liberty. You're conditioned to accept random stops so you see nothing wrong with it.
Second, now having been randomly detained, there are legal BOUNDARIES that are supposed to be observed as the officier interacts with the citizen. The officer is going to try to move those boundaries in their favor every time. If the citizen dares to know and mention where those boundaries are, he opens himself up to retaliatory tantrums in the form of further detention or fines etc simply by exercising his right NOT to be hassled.
This OP is about holding the line and keeping those officers in check.
No no no. I think your missing the point... by a wide margin.
The day one of your family gets killed by a drunk, I want you to remember this and think, "What if they had been pulled over randomly and tested?" and you'll say "Where the hell were the cops".
and you'd be hypocritical for even thinking it. Mark my words when it happens.