The Black Hole in Russia

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'm just really glad you reposted this, or I would still be in
total ignorance of this masked region in russia. And even
to the knowledge about the area of Mels hole being masked.
Bitchen thread.

I'm all but convinced it must be something monetary in nature. Money is the only thing powerful enough to bridge all the geo-political powers, boundaries and agendas, and cause every single satellite on Earth to black out the exact same location. Whatever it is must be of such immense value that it would completely destabilize the World economic systems, and the powers that be have all agreed that it is in their collective best interests to keep it hidden. It's really the only thing it could be. You can easily go and look at satellite pictures of the most classified top secret military installations in Russia, Europe and the US; they're all in plain view, but not this place.

One question I have not been able to answer which may offer clue to a different explanation (a much less intriguing one) is based on the coordinates. Given the longitude is so close to 180, I've wondered if satellites all recalibrate, or re-aim at this location (possibly restarting a new operational day). This might mean it truly is a location which is either a 'drop-out' or un-photographed. Unfortunately, no one I've talked to has been able to precisely answer this question so far though. If this were true, the location would have some pretty dramatic strategic value in which case there would almost certainly be something there just because of that alone.

edit...I know one thing though; if there is any hope at all of getting to the bottom of this great mystery, it will happen here on ATS!

Well...here's an interesting development!

I just went and checked Google maps and they've all been updated with images I've never seen before. There's nothing there! The images look intact with no readily apparent doctoring, unlike the old images. Maybe the mystery has finally come to an end. YAY!!!

link to location

I'm actually happy about this. That nothing appears to be there suits me just fine. Wow! Ten years! I'll be glad to close the chapter on this one if it is true. I'll look them over closely because I do see some unexpected features, but for now it all looks legit. Maybe the search is finally over!

How fun was that ride!!! What a rush!

WAIT!....Not so fast I guess; there really IS something there.

What is this??

Location to the SW

This would have been near the bottom middle of the blacked out area to the SW of the original coords. All the coordinates I've listed previously were as best I could get in the center of the blacked out area.

edit...Bummer, I was kinda hoping it was over...finally.

Let it go man...let it go.

That little black shape, it's just a little black shape! Or is it the start of cancer of the earth, always thought that was religion.

a reply to: Forensick

That is not pixelization you're looking at. That is some type of a man made structure, nothing is that straight in nature. Look at the surrounding terrain at that altitude, do you see any other pixelization...nope. There really is something there, by golly! WOW!

edit...here's another view of the same objects. The view has been tilted. The marker is set on the original coordinates. The new location is to the south and west, at the very bottom of the screen (just left of center). There's definitely something there. Looks like a collection of buildings and some sort of a compound.



Can you see it

edit...just in the minutes I've posted this, the image has changed....to some kind of rocket launcher. Interesting, there were buildings there before.

What the heck???????

Now it's back to the way it was before (the image, with what look to be buildings). This is really strange. Maybe my eyes were just seeing things, it was pretty late, and I was pretty tired.

I am very aware that this thread is practically ancient, but hopefully I won't make to many people mad by bumping it since I too had stumbled upon this phenomena a while back. I didn't think anyone else would've uncovered similar bizarre thing to what I have. The rural areas of Russia/Siberia are absolutely enigmatic when it comes to anomalies in their satellite imagery. There are miles of seemingly censored low-res topography which turn into obviously unredacted hi-res topography all over the place. Entire squares, in some cases covering HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of square miles of forest are like this.

About three years ago I was a regular poster in a paranormal themed image board, and another user created a thread about a bizarre facility located in the Krasonyarsk-Krai region of Siberia. Entering these coordinates into Google Maps or Bing Maps will take you to an ariel image of the facility: 60.4450706,96.2411324. I have no clue what this place is. I've speculated that it is some sort of mining operation, or oil refinery, but what's striking about it is how absolutely FAR from civilization it is. In any given direction, it's well over five hundred miles from any type of major city or minor village at all. The only access is by helicopter, which you can see the landing pad for whatever this is at the "starting" end. As you follow the facilities makeshift dirt roads in the overhead images, you will inevitably come to a gigantic redacted area.

Exploring around the general region of this facility you will find that many many different areas are either obviously censored by low-res imaging, or taken in completely different times of the year. What I mean by that is that there are whole sections that will be absolutely covered in deep snow, backed immediately against lush summer greenery, or in other parts, thin sections still obviously in the orange and yellow hues of fall. If you look at some of these sections in other satellite mapping apps, you will find that there are some sort of structures in these areas, but they have been low-res blurred to death. In addition, around these areas of Russia there are censored places, however when you look at geo-tagged pictures taken from smartphones in these places, you will find MASSIVE excavation operations and mining operations, nearly on par with the Mirny mine. What is going on up there? I have no satisfactory answer myself, and the level of concentrated effort to keep it under wraps just adds serious suspicions to what COULD be going on.

In my own personal research to the facility which I've linked here, I found few promising leads, pointing into all sorts of directions from general mining/oil operations, to the fact it has hired MANY workers in wildly varying disciplines. From mechanical engineering and mathematics (standard for a geological stuff), to...bio-medical research and virology. One person in particular being a relative to Mikhail Petrovich, who pioneered research into various diseases and birth defects back in the earlier days of modern medicine. I have no clue what to make of all this, but if anyone AT ALL is interested, I can dump what it is that I have and someone can try to hash some sense out of all this.

a reply to: VioletDreamer

A couple things...

First, welcome to ATS! As the original author of this thread, I am flattered your first post was a response to this thread!

Second, you referenced a link to the location you have been investigating, but I didn't see a link. Can you post one?

Indeed, the far east of Russia is a very enigmatic place. The efforts people go to in order to develop such large complexes in such remote areas under such extreme conditions and apparent cloak of secrecy is truly amazing. I am absolutely convinced there is something very big going on in this region, something which has the ability to turn the World on end if it were discovered.

It's been just over three (3) years now since I started this thread on ATS, and fully eleven (11) years total since I first began to research this area and became intrigued by what I found. Some of the satellite images have changed/improved since then, and this only seems to deepen the mystery. There's definitely something there, something the world community is clearly trying to keep from prying eyes. I say the "world community" because so many different countries must be involved, what with all the different satellites (US, Russian, Japanese, French) all showing the same yet different dumb-founding images.

Over the years my research has lead me to conclude whatever it is that's there must have some staggering implications for mankind, the revelation of which would change life as we know it. The biggest common denominator I can deduce is 'wealth'; it's the one thing everyone can agree on regardless of ideology, culture, political posture or faith.

The other interesting thing I've found over the years is the fact that people in extremely remote locations tend to begin doing some very strange things. It's like the remoteness of their location causes them to throw normalcy out the window and no longer worry about what the outside world thinks. The really interesting parallel to this is people of fabulous wealth tend to do the same thing. So it comes as no surprise to me that if fabulous wealth were discovered in remote location such as this area that the remoteness of the location would breed the experimentation in other far more sinister ways.

I have not yet found a concrete answer unlocking the mysteries of this region and my search continues.

I will look forward to your reply.

a reply to: VioletDreamer

In doing some quick research into the coordinates you posted I see the area is well west of the area I have been researching (probably 2,000 miles or so), so I doubt they are related. However, one thing which caught my eye is the unusual square grid pattern in the forest. The grid pattern isn't roads, and the squares appear to be about 1km each extending out for several miles east and west of the facility. These tracks are likely the remnants of seismic oil/gas exploration in the area, but they could be something else as well. Clearly there is a large petroleum reserve there.

Yet another example of concentrated development of a very remote area none the less.

a reply to: VioletDreamer

60.4450706,96.2411324. I have no clue what this place is. I've speculated that it is some sort of mining operation, or oil refinery,

It look like Kuyumba oil field pilot project (Gazprom).

Russian Projects - Kuyumba

Bump to come back to...

So even to this day 28/9/2021, is the area in question still blacked out?

I prob should go check it myself but i'd like to read the OP's answer.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

It is no longer blacked out like how it used to be. In the past several years there have been increasingly better attempts at camouflaging it so it looks like the surrounding areas, so it's difficult to say for certain. Much of what I wrote before is still valid though. For example, why the much higher resolution maps of areas just a couple miles west of the area? Roads which just seemingly stop at image resolution breaks? The current images are old, and they're the originals since when I first started looking into this, so how did they suddenly find the missing elements of an old image? Why not replace it with a more updated satellite image (like they have for virtually all of the areas surrounding this one)?

There's just so many unanswered questions remaining. Many satellites still show it as blacked out, but the Google images look to have been filled in, but the resolution is so low they could have easily been airbrushed in. The structures I sighted now appear to have been removed. None of it makes any sense.

All the Russians I have spoken with who are familiar with the area swear it's some kind of a secret military installation, but I don't think this is correct. Most of the most secret military installations in Russia are imaged in very high resolution. I've verified this personally. And Russia would have no influence over US, Japanese, Israeli and Indian satellites.

Another thing is, the geological terrain mapping satellites don't match the aerial photo satellite imagery. So, things are still being manipulated in this area.

Again, I don't know why. I don't think it's something like UFO/Alien/E.T. related, or anything like that. I don't even think it is a place where there are large numbers of people and/or traffic. As near as I can tell, it's just some kind of a discovery, and it must be so obvious that it just screams...'No one can ever be allowed to see this!' What that is, I have no idea. I have some suspicions, but I do not know for certain.

One interesting factoid I did find was found on, of all places, a bird watching website. Some birders went to this area to photograph birds in 2010. They flew to Anadyr, and took a ferry to Egevkinot (which is the closest settlement near this area). They attempted to get guides to take them inland to the river which runs through this area. Their guides took them close, but then said they could go no further. They got within 4-5 miles, but that was all the closer their guides would take them, and they wouldn't let them hike in further. They were told it was the "forbidden zone", but that's all the explanation they got.

If you're interested in researching this more, you can search on things like the "Egevkinot Mystery".

It's no joke! That much I can assure you.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Hey Clay,

I heard Google had "un-blurred" at least some Russian locations on their map service.

But 66.266304,179.214478 still looks less sharp than surrounding areas.

Cheers

Necro-ing this thread.

I went to Wikimapia today and saw this:

Wikimapia page

The red circle in the middle of the spot had a comment in Russian. Translated, it says:

took a walk with pleasure) “Four years of waiting, a good time for a vacation, 14 days, 20,000 km of track, 114 tr. money and ... and first things first. Part-1 "Zabroska" www.ermite.ru...

Running that site through Google Translate, I think this person actually went here and took pictures.

Russian blog translated

Not much there, a disused dirt road and some bears.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Realize that all the public mapping companies generally comply with requests from any government to blur certain areas for almost any reason. But rest assured that the US spy satellites can see what is there. Our Defense Intelligence Agency routinely images much of the world and similarly blurs images of specific areas on request. But the unblurred images are still available on a classified access basis.

There are no secrets in satellite images anymore.

My guess would be this is something associated with teh mine rather than something military.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

So I am kind of experienced at finding old news stories from the 1990s. I looked for anything I could find on Chukotka.

I ended up finding some articles that mention Chukotka from the 1990s. 3 from the NY Times, one LA Times and a short blurb from the Jamestown foundation same time period. I am going to post short quotes and I am using archive links to avoid the paywalls so you can read the whole articles.

Here is an article from the LA Times from October 13, 1997.

Some were idealists who came to carve a new socialist world from the frozen wilderness. Many were lured by the promise of wages three times what they could earn anywhere else. Others sought adventure on the new frontier.

Together, they tightened the Soviet grip on the icy Chukotka Peninsula across the Bering Strait from Alaska, using huge federal subsidies to build towns, factories and military bases on the edge of the tundra.

But today, the Russians are in retreat. With the Cold War lost and the economy in disarray, their dreams have turned to desperation, and their pioneer spirit has succumbed to the daily struggle for survival.

More than half the people of the Chukotka region have moved away in the past six years, and more are leaving daily. In town after town in Russia’s easternmost region, crumbling apartment blocks stand abandoned, windows broken. The potholed streets--empty of people--are lined with shipping containers packed with the household goods of Chukotka’s refugees.

This LA Times article i quoted above is the best one I found, it is pretty informative about the area and region and goes on to say

Officials say they want to attract tourists, but there are few hotels, transportation services are primitive, and the government refuses to relax restrictions that keep visitors out. Further, Nazarov has blocked a 10-year-old plan to create a U.S.-Russian national park encompassing both sides of the Bering Strait for fear it would interfere with oil exploration.

Some officials pin their hopes on the idea of building a tunnel under the Bering Strait to Alaska, linking Europe, Asia and America with an intercontinental highway. But they acknowledge that few people would want to spend weeks driving from, say, Los Angeles to Paris by way of Siberia.

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This is what the Jamestown Foundation said on April 18, 1997.

Authorities in the Chukchi Autonomous okrug in northeastern Siberia have expelled a group of Greenpeace activists. The environmentalists wanted to investigate the deaths of some 10,000 reindeer in the remote Arctic peninsula this past winter. They have accused the local authorities of failing to take the necessary measures to save the animals.

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Here is NY Times from May 15, 1994.

In many ways, Russia's Chukotka Peninsula on the Bering Sea is a geographical reflection of Alaska, with similarities in landscape and wildlife. At least three trips to this little-visited region are scheduled in July.

Joseph Van Os Photo Safaris of Vashon, Wash., will take a group of 17 travelers from Provideniya through the Bering Strait to the Chukchi Sea aboard the Suchotsky, a 285-foot, ice-strengthened marine research vessel built in Finland. The trip, from July 5 to 18, will be led by Dennis Paulson, a biology professor at the University of Puget Sound. The price is $3,995 round trip from Provideniya, including a night's stay in Anchorage before and after the cruise. Air fare to Anchorage is extra, as is air fare between Anchorage and Provideniya.

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I do not know whether Chukchi is another name for Chukotka or if it is another area on the "Chukotka penninsula".


Chukchi does appear to refer also to the native inhabitants of the area, which is mentioned in this next article from the NY Times dated November 29, 1996.

About 700 reindeer have died of hunger in Russia's remote Chukotka Peninsula and another 150,000 are facing starvation, officials said today.

The region's civil defense chief, Yuri Zhulin, said the animals were going hungry because rain and snowfall during the past two weeks have turned up to 70 percent of their pastures into ice sheets.

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It goes on to talk about the Chukchi people being nomadic and relying on the reindeer for their livelihood.


This NY Times article from December 4, 1991.

The weekend developments, in which the two Chukotka officials met with leaders here and toured Alaskan Eskimo villages to examine art works, follow an agreement two years ago between President Bush and the Soviet President, Mikhail S. Gorbachev, to allow the native people to travel across the Bering Sea without passports and other bureaucratic formalities

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I'm still digging into this since I found out about the Bering Sea tunnel ideas and the fact that "native people" could cross willy-nilly without "bureaucratic formalities"

Bumping... Bookmarking.

I see there are a few updates to this thread since my departure. I will be reading through these with great interest.

More pieces of the puzzle to analyze.